fyi has anyone noticed theyre all in the national league while king felix is dominating the offensive circuit?Originally Posted by jnickell100
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08-02-13 09:12 PM #36
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08-02-13 09:16 PM #37
Figured you or jmobile would respond to that. You're both dodger haters. But please don't compare Felix to kershaw. There is no comparison between the two. Originally Posted by InTheDrink
fyi has anyone noticed theyre all in the national league while king felix is dominating the offensive circuit?
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08-02-13 09:18 PM #38
Originally Posted by jnickell100
go ahead and explain
we're waiting
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08-02-13 09:25 PM #39
Maybe someone else can compare side by side but:
kershaw--era 1.87 compared to Felix 2.3
kershaw whip---.86 compared to Felix 1.06
kershaw3complete game so--3 Felix 0
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08-02-13 09:44 PM #40
there probably isnt much difference between the american league and the national league Originally Posted by jnickell100
apples to apples comparison
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08-02-13 09:58 PM #41
Ever?Gibson in 1968 says hello,Pedro had a couple of better seasons too
QUOTE=jnickell100;19297216]Can't argue that? Kershaw is having one of the best pitching seasons ever this year.[/QUOTE]
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08-02-13 10:05 PM #42
nasher even you know gibbie's season was overrated (but still great) because of the mound height Originally Posted by stevenash
Ever?Gibson in 1968 says hello,Pedro had a couple of better seasons too
Originally Posted by jnickell100
nasher petey was the best pitcher over about a five year span any of us will ever see
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08-02-13 10:41 PM #43
Originally Posted by stevenash
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08-02-13 11:21 PM #44
facing the weak NL helps Originally Posted by jnickell100
Felix light years ahead of Kershaw
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08-02-13 11:22 PM #45
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08-02-13 11:30 PM #46
Fernandez even hit a sac fly tonight. 14K's like Darvish the other night. Keeping my eyes on those 2 they gon' be dealing for years if they can stay healthy.
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08-02-13 11:37 PM #47
please kid. Light years ahead. You're high. Kershaw has been the best p in the last 3 years. So anyways I just looked over some numbers, the nl west collectivity has a higher team batting average than al west. Originally Posted by CanuckG
Also, your article is nice and cute about Hernandez.
Kershaw's run support per gm---3.22. Felix---4.43
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08-03-13 09:29 AM #48
Bob Gibson changed the way the game was played after 1968, he's the reason why they lowered the mound. Originally Posted by InTheDrink
nasher even you know gibbie's season was overrated (but still great) because of the mound height
nasher petey was the best pitcher over about a five year span any of us will ever see
Here's his 1968 game log, how many consecutive shut outs in June?
Look at all the 1-0, 2-1, 2-0 games also.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...&t=p&year=1968
My favorite Gibby story, his catcher Tim McCarver comes out to the mound for a chat, Gibson points to the home plate, tells McCarver, "go back, what can you tell me about pitching except you can't hit it"
GREATEST SINGLE SEASON PITCHING PERFORMANCES
W-LERALg. Avg. ERARER
PitcherW-L ERA Lg. Avg. ERA RERA 2000 Pedro Martinez 19-9 1.74 4.91 .354 1994* Greg Maddux 16-6 1.56 4.21 .365 1968 Bob Gibson 22-9 1.12 2.99 .375 1995* Greg Maddux 19-2 1.63 4.18 .379 1999 Pedro Martinez 23-4 2.07 4.86 .425 1985 Dwight Gooden 24-4 1.53 3.59 .426 1996 Kevin Brown 17-11 1.89 4.34 .435 1997 Roger Clemens 21-7 2.05 4.57 .449 1997 Pedro Martinez 17-8 1.90 4.22 .451 1964 Dean Chance 20-9 1.64 3.63 .455 1981* Nolan Ryan 11-5 1.69 3.70 .456 1978 Ron Guidry 25-3 1.74 3.76 .463 1966 Sandy Koufax 27-9 1.73 3.61 .479 1953 Warren Spahn 23-7 2.10 4.29 .490 1964 Sandy Koufax 19-5 1.74 3.54 .492 1990 Roger Clemens 21-6 1.93 3.91 .494 1955 Billy Pierce 15-10 1.97 3.96 .497 1997 Randy Johnson 20-4 2.28 4.57 .499 1971 Tom Seaver 20-10 1.76 3.47 .507 Last edited by stevenash; 08-03-13 at 09:37 AM.
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08-03-13 09:30 AM #49
You posted Hernandez +210 yesterday, and he wasn't. Miami was favored. Originally Posted by stevenash
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08-03-13 09:36 AM #50
Actually the two are extremely close and Hernandez actually has the slight edge right now, although it is very close and practically a toss-up. Felix 2.45 FIP, Kershaw 2.47 FIP; Felix 2.60 xFIP, Kershaw 2.90 xFIP; Felix 4.9 WAR, Kershaw 4,5 WAR. Originally Posted by jnickell100
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08-03-13 09:37 AM #51
1.74 era in the middle of the steroid era
obfukkinscene
pedro
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08-03-13 09:40 AM #52
I posted the run line, sorry about that, -110/+210 Originally Posted by LT Profits
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08-03-13 09:42 AM #53
Originally Posted by InTheDrink
1.74 era in the middle of the steroid era
obfukkinscene
pedro
Maddux too.
Thing is it's a tough comparison, two different leagues, two different styles of pitching..............
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08-03-13 10:17 AM #54
agreed....but even as a phils fan i acknowledge that most of the big offenses were in the AL in that era...AL teams averaged around a quarter run per game more than NL teams in that era Originally Posted by stevenash
This is the greatest performance I've ever seen given the circumstances
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08-03-13 10:36 AM #55
1972 Phils win 59 lose 97, Carlton goes 27 and 10 Originally Posted by InTheDrink
Now if you add the two games he started that the Phils won and he got a No Decision in, Steve Carlton started 50% of all the games the Phillies won that season.
Now that is what I call a great single season performance.
Want to see something you'll never see again, click on this game log link of all Carlton's starts that year in 1972, look at the IP column, foget all the nine inning games he pitched, look how many 10 inning plus games he pitched in.
Pay even closer attention to the innings pitched column in Sept/Oct
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...&t=p&year=1972
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08-03-13 11:44 AM #56
What site are you getting all this shit from Nash.?
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08-03-13 12:10 PM #57
Define shit? The stat links? Originally Posted by jnickell100
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08-03-13 12:13 PM #58
Yes your stats. Meant "shit" in a good way lol. You always come up with these obscure hard to find stats. Originally Posted by stevenash
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08-03-13 12:14 PM #59
41 starts and 37 decisions Originally Posted by stevenash
is 30 cg's a lot?
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08-03-13 12:16 PM #60
baseball-reference.com Originally Posted by jnickell100
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08-03-13 12:18 PM #61
Only 25 or so pitchers in this era start 30 games all season now Originally Posted by InTheDrink
is 30 cg's a lot?
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08-03-13 12:19 PM #62
best sports site ever made Originally Posted by stevenash
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08-05-13 09:16 PM #63
Totally shocked that a Jose Fernandez thread turns into a Kershaw/Felix pissing contest.
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08-05-13 11:17 PM #64
Ya I know. My fault. I hijacked the thread. Originally Posted by TheLock
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08-06-13 05:58 AM #65
Well I DO think that everyone in this thread agrees that Fernandez is a stud, it is just about impossible to argue otherwise. Originally Posted by TheLock
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08-19-13 09:05 PM #66
Just read he'll be shut down for the season Labor Day
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08-19-13 09:07 PM #67
itll ruin him Originally Posted by stevenash
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09-06-13 07:21 PM #68
Miami Marlins Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA J Fernandez 4.0 0 0 0 0 6 0 50-37 2.27 Totals 4.0 0 0 0 0 6 0 50-37
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09-06-13 07:38 PM #69
was this sarcastic or serious? Originally Posted by KingJD31
what the hell ever happened to that kid?
I remember the Mets touting him as their next Doc Gooden (before Harvey was ever even drafted) he came up for a few MLB starts, had a blazing fastball, then disappeared like a fart in the wind.
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