Quarter Betting

MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 01:59 PM

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11-22-09, 02:01 PM

If I play a quarter it's usually the first quarter but I would think that the 2nd quarter should be available since it hasn't happened yet but they lines might be adjusted for the play that has already happened. IE starting the 2nd quarter on your opp's 20 yard line should affect the line.

Edit: I just went to a few books and no they aren't offering it in progress.

iceminers26 · 11-22-09, 02:01 PM

You can bet on any quarter prior to the start of the game.

At halftime you can bet on the 3rd and 4th quarter.

You can't bet on the 2nd quarter while the 1st quarter is in play and you can't bet on the 4th quarter while the 3rd quarter is in play.

I hope this answered your ?

Karayilan9 · 11-22-09, 02:02 PM

You can on Bet365, I'm sure other books offer it aswell.

williams22 · 11-22-09, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by iceminers26

You can bet on any quarter prior to the start of the game.

At halftime you can bet on the 3rd and 4th quarter.

You can't bet on the 2nd quarter while the 1st quarter is in play and you can't bet on the 4th quarter while the 3rd quarter is in play.

I hope this answered your ?

Exactly right. Some books offer "In-progress" or "Live" lines, but those aren't shown at SBRodds.

MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 02:03 PM

Basically I want to know because one poster always bets on 2nd quarter and 4th quarter in my book. Such as the Falcons +1/2 or something, while they were on the 20 yard line to start the 2nd quarter. SBR Lines shows quarter lines etc, but I would figure those have to change etc and would guess those are only starting lines

iceminers26 · 11-22-09, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

You can on Bet365, I'm sure other books offer it aswell.

Is that in the live betting options?

MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 02:04 PM

I am also not talking about live betting options if that helps. Just a straight 2Q bet such as Indy Under 13.5 points after the 1st quarter ended or Flacons +1/2 while they are on the 20 yard line.

iceminers26 · 11-22-09, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by MexicanStallion

Basically I want to know because one poster always bets on 2nd quarter and 4th quarter in my book. Such as the Falcons +1/2 or something, while they were on the 20 yard line to start the 2nd quarter. SBR Lines shows quarter lines etc, but I would figure those have to change etc and would guess those are only starting lines

He is taking advantage of you, I would not accept the plays once the game has started. I highly doubt the SBR quarter lines are adjusted during the game.

iceminers26 · 11-22-09, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by MexicanStallion

I am also not talking about live betting options if that helps. Just a straight 2Q bet such as Indy Under 13.5 points after the 1st quarter ended or Flacons +1/2 while they are on the 20 yard line.

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MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by iceminers26

He is taking advantage of you, I would not accept the plays once the game has started. I highly doubt the SBR quarter lines are adjusted during the game.

Well thank you sir for your answers. I will wait a little bit and see if anybody else has any thoughts, but it appears dtp just has been cheating me for a while. Not really too sure what I should do about that since it has happened for a while. He has sent all his points for new bets though, so I can adjust it at least from yesterday. He won over 400 points doing that.

First dtp is "cheating" me and then Rush probably stiffs me for 150 points. What a few days

williams22 · 11-22-09, 02:13 PM

I'd highly recommend not returning his points from today and I'm sure the forum in general would support that decision. You have to be a pretty big jackass to cheat someone like Mex who puts so much time into this forum for everyone.

iceminers26 · 11-22-09, 02:13 PM

Sorry to hear that bud, hope things get better for ya.

When I get some points, i'll be over to your book to donate some points, lol

iceminers26 · 11-22-09, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by williams22

I'd highly recommend not returning his points from today and I'm sure the forum in general would support that decision. You have to be a pretty big jackass to cheat someone like Mex who puts so much time into this forum for everyone.

Boner_18 · 11-22-09, 02:45 PM

Not that I support cheating, the other view is that rules were not outlined beforehand. If a book didn't outline the rule and suddenly confiscated your money it sounds like the kinda event that you would go to SBR to report... Just wanted to give the other side of the coin...

williams22 · 11-22-09, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Boner_18

Not that I support cheating, the other view is that rules were not outlined beforehand. If a book didn't outline the rule and suddenly confiscated your money it sounds like the kinda event that you would go to SBR to report... Just wanted to give the other side of the coin...

However, Mex clearly states that bets must be made before the start time of the game. Essentially what he is doing is past-posting.

Boner_18 · 11-22-09, 02:55 PM

It certainly is deceptive and potentially cheating. But it isn't past posting. Surely you wouldn't call betting the 3rd quarter at half time past posting b/c quite literally it is after the start of the game? If I were to argue against voiding the bets I would disagree w/ "cramming" this w/in the past posting portion of the rules and claim that it should be a distinct spelled out rule of its own...

MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 02:58 PM

The question is about 2nd and 4th quarter action. If you actually can't make real bets with these then you shouldn't be allowed to do so in my book. Can you take Team A +3 starting the 4th quarter when they are sitting on First and Goal on the 1. If you cannot make a real bet then I do not want bets like that as well. I do not bet on quarters, so I have never known.

The Seer · 11-22-09, 03:20 PM

YES, you cn bet on quarters. I do it all the time and make some good $. Bookmaker has quarters and I know linesmaker does as well. As soon as the 1st quarter ends, they put up the 2nd qrt. line. Same for the 4th after the 3rd. They have them for certain games only, not all but is usually a good selection. Qrts saved my ass in college yesterday, been ok in NFL today.

durito · 11-22-09, 04:28 PM

No you cannot bet on quarters after the game starts.

Several books offer updated quarters betting between quarters, with the lines adjusted to the current situation.

jayc88 · 11-22-09, 04:32 PM

void all his bets today and ban him from your operation
stiffing him for all his points wouldnt be the right decision imo

Karayilan9 · 11-22-09, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by MexicanStallion

I am also not talking about live betting options if that helps. Just a straight 2Q bet such as Indy Under 13.5 points after the 1st quarter ended or Flacons +1/2 while they are on the 20 yard line.

Yeah you can bet any Q before game in Bet365.

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williams22 · 11-22-09, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by jayc88

void all his bets today and ban him from your operation
stiffing him for all his points wouldnt be the right decision imo

Mex lost over 400 points yesterday from these illegitimate bets. As long as the wagers dtp made today are less than the amount he won from Mex illegitimately yesterday I think Mex has every right to keep the points.

MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

Yeah you can bet any Q before game in Bet365.

Bet365 is not a book I used for my own book, but thanks for sharing sir.

I am going to find out for sure. I am on Bookmaker looking to see if there will be lines for the 2Q or the same lines SBR shows.

aggieshawn · 11-22-09, 04:49 PM

it is a fun betting book so why have quarter betting at all? qua

Boner_18 · 11-22-09, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by jayc88

void all his bets today and ban him from your operation
stiffing him for all his points wouldnt be the right decision imo

This is the right call. Just b/c someone beat the book (i.e. the rules were unclear) doesn't mean the bets were "illegitimate." This adjective is a conclusion. By keeping the bets you are acting as judge/jury/executioner.

While you are fully w/in your right to ban any player you see fit to ban, or to make rules as you see fit to make them if you confiscate point you are no better than Sportsbook.com confiscating cash placed on correlated parlays when the rules were absent/unclear about them.

MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 04:54 PM

Thanks for everyone's answers here. I tried with 3 different books to bet on 2Q with 5Dimes, BetPhoenix, and Bookmaker. There were no options for those bets. SBR lines shows 2Q lines though with 5Dimes and BetPhoenix.

juni · 11-22-09, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by MexicanStallion

The question is about 2nd and 4th quarter action. If you actually can't make real bets with these then you shouldn't be allowed to do so in my book. Can you take Team A +3 starting the 4th quarter when they are sitting on First and Goal on the 1. If you cannot make a real bet then I do not want bets like that as well. I do not bet on quarters, so I have never known.

it sounds like in your book today that this guy asked you if it was ok though right? so if you say yes then what's the problem?

MexicanStallion · 11-22-09, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by juni

it sounds like in your book today that this guy asked you if it was ok though right? so if you say yes then what's the problem?

He had asked the beginning of the month if you can bet quarters. I said you can bet all quarters. I assumed you can make these bets with real books. I have never bet on quarters before. Some posters today said he has been making bets that are not real. He has been using incorrect lines when they are not actually available. I wanted to ask posters how quarter betting works.

bluefish · 11-22-09, 05:41 PM

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durito · 11-22-09, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Boner_18

This is the right call. Just b/c someone beat the book (i.e. the rules were unclear) doesn't mean the bets were "illegitimate." This adjective is a conclusion. By keeping the bets you are acting as judge/jury/executioner.

While you are fully w/in your right to ban any player you see fit to ban, or to make rules as you see fit to make them if you confiscate point you are no better than Sportsbook.com confiscating cash placed on correlated parlays when the rules were absent/unclear about them.

The rules are not in the least bit unclear.

Those wagers would have been voided at every single sportsbook in the world.

Any book offering updated quarters does so in a separate section with separate lines.

juni · 11-22-09, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by MexicanStallion

He had asked the beginning of the month if you can bet quarters. I said you can bet all quarters. I assumed you can make these bets with real books. I have never bet on quarters before. Some posters today said he has been making bets that are not real. He has been using incorrect lines when they are not actually available. I wanted to ask posters how quarter betting works.

ok i just looked at the link dtp made to his november 1st post specifically asking if it was ok to place a bet on the 2nd quarter once the 1st quarter was done, and you said yes

Boner_18 · 11-22-09, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by durito

The rules are not in the least bit unclear.

Those wagers would have been voided at every single sportsbook in the world.

Any book offering updated quarters does so in a separate section with separate lines.

Show me where in Mexican's rules making this bet is clearly spelled out. Grab a quote from the rules and show me. I don't see where it is clearly spelled out.