If You Claim To Win At Gambling...

[onthewhat]

Monkeyfocker will not believe it and will attack you on forum at every chance

Ex: Nicky Santoro and Fishhead

Monkey thinks he is the only guy who can win at gambling, and if anyone does so in a different manner then they are full of shit. Monkey rarely, if ever, posts gambling information on the forum whereas Nicky and Fishhead frequently provide nuggets to posters.

[pavyracer]

Guy knows his staff. He is in Vegas because he is a pro. Nicky and Fishhead are frauds. Nicky wanted to Western Union $500,000 to a book yesterday to get the 100% bonus and Fishhead loves to eat half eaten sandwiches from the dumpster at a restaurant.

[onthewhat]

Pavy you are the biggest tool shed on the forum. After you met posters and took handouts at the bash, you have not criticized any poster at the bash or SBR.

[DrStale]

Most of the people on here claim to win and I never see focker attack any of them. Stop making stupid threads because he yelled at your boyfriend.

[Fishhead]

OTW is regarded highly here at SBR because he simply tells it like it is time after time after time, like in this thread.

It didn't take me long to realize Onner was a top flight poster of the highest degree.

FH

[lakerboy]

LOL

[Fishhead]

By the way, MONKEYFOCKER is also a great poster...........he is clueless in many areas surrounding gambling and makes assumptions with no sense of reasoning, but he is also very sharp in just as many gambling areas.

All in all, pretty sharp dude for his age(35).

[Enogsiwon]

Monkeyfocker will not believe it and will attack you on forum at every chance

Ex: Nicky Santoro and Fishhead

Monkey thinks he is the only guy who can win at gambling, and if anyone does so in a different manner then they are full of shit. Monkey rarely, if ever, posts gambling information on the forum whereas Nicky and Fishhead frequently provide nuggets to posters.

With this spot on post Im afraid I might win "worst poster of the Year" now..

Clutch post at a crucial time in the voting..

[jjgold]

Most lose at gambling period

Nicky and Fishler are rare breeds

[MonkeyF0cker]

Monkeyfocker will not believe it and will attack you on forum at every chance

Ex: Nicky Santoro and Fishhead

Monkey thinks he is the only guy who can win at gambling, and if anyone does so in a different manner then they are full of shit. Monkey rarely, if ever, posts gambling information on the forum whereas Nicky and Fishhead frequently provide nuggets to posters.

Fishhead might have made money via slots but if he doesn't know that a +13.5 -> +12.5 move provides no expected value, he's a fukkin square handicapper. I never said Nicky didn't make money gambling. I've only said he provides bad information here. Surely, one can make money as a steam chaser. And if you had higher than a third grade aptitude, you'd go to the Think Tank and see if I've posted anything worthwhile.

[Fishhead]

Fishhead might have made money via slots but if he doesn't know that a +13.5 -> +12.5 move provides no expected value, he's a fukkin square handicapper. I never said Nicky didn't make money gambling. I've only said he provides bad information here. Surely, one can make money as a steam chaser. And if you had higher than a third grade aptitude, you'd go to the Think Tank and see if I've posted anything worthwhile.

......as stated earlier, the kid still has a ton to learn.

But again, very sharp for his age nontheless.

Nicky provides bad informantion and I'm a square.............WOW.

[mmike032]

Most of the people on here claim to win and I never see focker attack any of them. Stop making stupid threads because he yelled at your boyfriend.

[MonkeyF0cker]

A lot to learn? LOL. A +13.5 -110 when the closer is +12.5 -105 is -2.75% edge, retard. No matter how you try to spin it, you're WRONG.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Even at +13.5 -105, it's a -0.55% edge. Unless you're using a database that's as old as you are, you are DEAD WRONG. However, I highly doubt you have a database or have any fukkin clue about Bayesian inference and/or push probabilities.

[BGS 9.5]

OTW is regarded highly here at SBR because he simply tells it like it is time after time after time, like in this thread.

It didn't take me long to realize Onner was a top flight poster of the highest degree.

FH

He is nothing of the sort, he swings from your nuts in such an embarrassing way, I don't even know what to say. Kid needs to get a job and stay away from grown folks gambling business.

[AMBlai01]

Monkey not messing around tonight...

[durito]

Fishhead, tell us some more about chase systems

[tltaylor89]

Lol the Morrison chase

[Deuce]

Professionals at forum are a treat. Nicky never posts plays though basically here to hammer people. Solid capper though and a true professional scalper.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

A lot to learn? LOL. A +13.5 -110 when the closer is +12.5 -105 is -2.75% edge, retard. No matter how you try to spin it, you're WRONG.

Maybe Im not reading your line right. Your saying if i took say the Rams this week at +14 and by kickoff the line was +13, i have a negative edge? Isnt this what you math guys call beating the closing number? Arnt I getting more points then where the public moved it? or are you just insinuating that the public is always right since that's where the line was moved?

so in week 2 or 3 when all the sharps hammered the jets +6.5 and the line closed at +3 they all had negative value?

I think u meant to say if you took +12.5 and it closed at +13.5 you have negative expected value.

Please enlighten me someone?

[B1Bomber]

Even at +13.5 -105, it's a -0.55% edge. Unless you're using a database that's as old as you are, you are DEAD WRONG. However, I highly doubt you have a database or have any fukkin clue about Bayesian inference and/or push probabilities.

Statistics and a Yale degree may take you far, but if you're focking monkeys is it really worth it in the end?

[durito]

Maybe Im not reading your line right. Your saying if i took say the Rams this week at +14 and by kickoff the line was +13, i have a negative edge? Isnt this what you math guys call beating the closing number? Arnt I getting more points then where the public moved it? or are you just insinuating that the public is always right since that's where the line was moved?

so in week 2 or 3 when all the sharps hammered the jets +6.5 and the line closed at +3 they all had negative value?

I think u meant to say if you took +12.5 and it closed at +13.5 you have negative expected value.

Please enlighten me someone?

Different points are worth different values. The 13 in NCAAF is virtually worthless. The 3 in the NFL is worth a ton.

You need to include the odds of your bet

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Different points are worth different values. The 13 in NCAAF is virtually worthless. The 3 in the NFL is worth a ton. You need to include the odds of your bet

Oh ok so he's talking squarely based on the -110 vs -105 factor? thanks, I don't bet much NCAAF and was just assuming how getting more points was negative value. Thanks Durito

[durito]

http://www.sbrforum.com/Betting+Tools/Half+Point+Calculator.aspx

[MonkeyF0cker]

Oh ok so he's talking squarely based on the -110 vs -105 factor? thanks, I don't bet much NCAAF and was just assuming how getting more points was negative value. Thanks Durito

Not really. You have to beat the closing number by enough to overcome the vig. +13.5 -105 is less vig than +13.5 -110 thus the lower negative expected value. In other words, the move from +13.5 to +12.5 is not worth enough to overcome vig even if you bet -105's.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Not really. You have to beat the closing number by enough to overcome the vig. +13.5 -105 is less vig than +13.5 -110 thus the lower negative expected value.

Honestly speaking as durito confirmed i really just skimmed over your numbers and didn't see the -105 vs -110....im fully aware of the vig differential there in correspondence to the expected value with +13.5 vs 12.5. was reading them both as -110.

[nosniboR11]

onthewhat is the biggest dumbass on this board, nicky sucks and never does anything useful for anyone, I have to give fish credit where credit is due, Fish is proving what he is worth, but nicky and you otw both of you can piss off, you both suck dick

[acarmelo1]

plus points are good the more you have, more % you have to win. if you have for example Texas +12.5 (-105) and i had texas +13.5 (-110) and just by luck texas losed by 13 points. My bet win i do not care if i risked more than you. But In the bottom line I won my bet and you lost ur money. that is what I understand.

[MonkeyF0cker]

And that is why you're a moron, acarmelo1.

[durito]

plus points are good the more you have, more % you have to win. if you have for example Texas +12.5 (-105) and i had texas +13.5 (-110) and just by luck texas losed by 13 points. My bet win i do not care if i risked more than you. But In the bottom line I won my bet and you lost ur money. that is what I understand.

no. 13 pushes <1% of the time

[mmike032]

plus points are good the more you have, more % you have to win. if you have for example Texas +12.5 (-105) and i had texas +13.5 (-110) and just by luck texas losed by 13 points. My bet win i do not care if i risked more than you. But In the bottom line I won my bet and you lost ur money. that is what I understand.

[MonkeyF0cker]

durito,

He said "and just by luck Texas losed." That shows you what we're dealing with. Not worth the keystrokes.

[acarmelo1]

But if I had +13.5 I Win if the score is randomteam 13 texas 0

you lose if you had 12.5

And that is how is it

If you said that i am wrong then I will like to see the math

[acarmelo1]

And i am not talking about the game going in right now

just random stuff

[mmike032]

tell 'em carmelo
you da man