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  • Newguyintown
    SBR Sharp
    • 12-24-05
    • 348

    #36
    So....- any news?


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    • katstale
      SBR MVP
      • 02-07-07
      • 3924

      #37
      Richard? I have been comforted by your posts before. Now would be a good time to drop in and offer some glimmer of hope to those of us hoping you guys make it!
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      • Conando
        SBR Rookie
        • 03-27-07
        • 6

        #38
        I got an email from Richard saying they are looking at the end of the week so hopefully something happens than.
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        • Helmut
          Restricted User
          • 03-17-07
          • 356

          #39
          I talked to that little vixen Monica today. Laid on the charm big time but unfortunatly no money.
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          • suzysuzy
            SBR High Roller
            • 04-05-07
            • 181

            #40
            gee what a surprise. now theyre saying later this week. first it was last wednesday, then it was the end of the week, then it was tuesday, now it's the end of the week. soon it will be early next week, guaranteed.
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            • Dark Horse
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-14-05
              • 13764

              #41
              Actionbets all over again; only Aden is now Richard and Little Missy goes by Monica.
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              • Newguyintown
                SBR Sharp
                • 12-24-05
                • 348

                #42
                Bill Dozer: "Lenny is trying to get some things done that he expected to happen on Tuesday."

                It is Tuesday- should I start counting my money yet?



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                • suzysuzy
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 04-05-07
                  • 181

                  #43
                  until this whole cascade disaster started, i didnt read forums all that much, and i didnt realize how many books go under and how many people get screwed. how do people deal with it?? im losing my mind. i cant sleep, and im really miserable. poor poor me.
                  thanks for listening.
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                  • Dark Horse
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-14-05
                    • 13764

                    #44
                    You got a bad part of the deal, because Cascade was rated A- not too long ago.

                    It's very hard to form an opinion of Lenny, but from what I hear he's a survivor, so try to keep the faith. Also, perhaps you can take some consolation from the fact that no A-rated book has ever collapsed. It make take a while for you to see your money, but in that you're not alone. Many here have Neteller sitting on their funds.

                    Astonishing, isn't it, that a government resorting to such phrases as 'click your mouse, lose your house', has turned a perfectly stable business climate into a mess where Americans are truly at risk of losing their house?
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                    • slash
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 1000

                      #45
                      Originally posted by suzysuzy
                      how do people deal with it?? im losing my mind. i cant sleep, and im really miserable. poor poor me. thanks for listening.
                      Take a break from betting. Go out and have some fun with friends and family and try to think of anything else but betting and your heavy financial loss. And it's only money...

                      That's what I did when I was screwed big time several years ago...
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                      • Newguyintown
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 12-24-05
                        • 348

                        #46
                        I just spoke with Sophie at Betcascade.

                        She assures me that payouts are going on right now. She says that Cascade is still doing Western Unions and book-to-book transfers. I asked for a Western Union, she told me to call back tomorrow. I asked for a supervisor but she would not give one.


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                        • slash
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 1000

                          #47
                          Yeah, they sure are....
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                          • suzysuzy
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 04-05-07
                            • 181

                            #48
                            that's funny, just today monica told me they are NOT doing book to book transfers or western unions and she has no idea when or if they will be ever again. sophie is full of it.
                            im just telling myself that the money is gone. i think it's better for my well being to just start accepting it. feeling like you have hope just makes the pain worse. if some miracle occurs, and i do get any money, i'll be very happy, but im just couting it as a loss (devastating loss) at this point.
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                            • Newguyintown
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-24-05
                              • 348

                              #49
                              Bill Dozer: "Lenny is trying to get some things done that he expected to happen on Tuesday."

                              Another self-imposed deadline come and gone, Bill. What is the outlook for the poor suckers who have money there?

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                              • pokerking
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-08-07
                                • 109

                                #50
                                It looks like Lenny just stole everybody's money now. It's sickening how these places stiff everybody. Surely part of the money is still available but these crooks just take off with all the money and don't even make a partial payment. Lenny even told me that he held the money in escrow. I have the conversation if he'd like to dispute his escrow claim.
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                                • Bill Dozer
                                  www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                  • 07-12-05
                                  • 10894

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Newguyintown
                                  Bill Dozer: "Lenny is trying to get some things done that he expected to happen on Tuesday."

                                  Another self-imposed deadline come and gone, Bill. What is the outlook for the poor suckers who have money there?

                                  Not much has changed except the new update date, Friday. We can't give any advice except to wait for updates, or lack of, through the weekend. On Monday we will all be able to look at the situation in a different light one way or the other. At this moment we just need to assume there is dealings going on and make sure fellow players don't send any new money.
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                                  • suzysuzy
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 04-05-07
                                    • 181

                                    #52
                                    i can hardly wait 'til tomorrow! lenny will probably announce that everyone is getting paid in full immediately! LOL whatta joke
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                                    • Helmut
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 03-17-07
                                      • 356

                                      #53
                                      Fridays update will be that there will be an update next tuesday.
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                                      • bigboydan
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 55420

                                        #54
                                        I feel bad for everyone who's playing the waiting game with Cascade, because from the looks of it all it's gonna be a lifetime type wait IMO.
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                                        • pokerking
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 02-08-07
                                          • 109

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by bigboydan
                                          I feel bad for everyone who's playing the waiting game with Cascade, because from the looks of it all it's gonna be a lifetime type wait IMO.
                                          I was afraid this was going to happen after Lenny stole my money. I'm afraid that Lenny will take off with whatever money is left. He doesn't have any integrity.
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                                          • suzysuzy
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-05-07
                                            • 181

                                            #56
                                            well at least lenny might have stopped lying to the employees. i just spoke to monica and she said that lenny has no date set on when things will get "resolved".
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                                            • Bradyhoss
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 04-13-07
                                              • 1

                                              #57
                                              I just received a 4 figure payout yesterday from cascades

                                              I asked for a payout tuesday and it came yesterday. It was the quickest payout i ever got from a sportsbook. I am suprised to hear that people have not received their payouts from cascades. I have only been betting there for 2 months and have never had a problem. I hope others can say the same.
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                                              • Newguyintown
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 12-24-05
                                                • 348

                                                #58
                                                Some good news from Cascade maybe!

                                                I had requested a check around April 2nd. Yesterday I see that my account has been debited and in the account history I see "Withdrawal CK VIA SOLIDPAY"

                                                I didn't expect to see my balance touched- Anyone else have this (and if so, has it been sitting there for months)? I can't help it, this increased my hopes.

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                                                • Helmut
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 03-17-07
                                                  • 356

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Newguyintown
                                                  Some good news from Cascade maybe!

                                                  I had requested a check around April 2nd. Yesterday I see that my account has been debited and in the account history I see "Withdrawal CK VIA SOLIDPAY"

                                                  I didn't expect to see my balance touched- Anyone else have this (and if so, has it been sitting there for months)? I can't help it, this increased my hopes.

                                                  NG
                                                  Was your request for more than 5000?
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                                                  • Newguyintown
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-24-05
                                                    • 348

                                                    #60
                                                    I have a tracking number! My check is from between 3K and 8K

                                                    Estimated delivery: TODAY

                                                    Will update....

                                                    NG
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                                                    • suzysuzy
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 04-05-07
                                                      • 181

                                                      #61
                                                      im not too excited. lenny's phone isnt working anymore lol. you get a recorded message in spanish.
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                                                      • PitBoss
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 03-14-07
                                                        • 21

                                                        #62
                                                        I received a tracking number from them on Monday. It turned out that the number is invalid.
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                                                        • PitBoss
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 03-14-07
                                                          • 21

                                                          #63
                                                          My account history shows "Withdrawal CK VIA UNIVERSAL".
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                                                          • Newguyintown
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 12-24-05
                                                            • 348

                                                            #64
                                                            "I received a tracking number from them on Monday. It turned out that the number is invalid."

                                                            My number is valid and estimated deliverytime was 2 hours ago. Still several hours of daylight left so I expect it today.


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                                                            • katstale
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-07-07
                                                              • 3924

                                                              #65
                                                              No offense to the first time poster who got paid, but when several of the vets get paid i will salute Richard and Lenny. I don't have a problem with slow pay--and i will sympathize a small amt with books that have been damaged by the NT debacle, but no pay and lies...... not cool. I am still rooting for Cascade, as I love the 105 during football and basketball.
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                                                              • BigDog
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 12-09-05
                                                                • 452

                                                                #66
                                                                Not trying to tell anyone what to do but you should NEVER salute Richard or Lenny,they are liars and thieves! ....I hope EVERYONE gets their money and then NEVER deals with these losers again

                                                                Originally posted by katstale
                                                                No offense to the first time poster who got paid, but when several of the vets get paid i will salute Richard and Lenny. I don't have a problem with slow pay--and i will sympathize a small amt with books that have been damaged by the NT debacle, but no pay and lies...... not cool. I am still rooting for Cascade, as I love the 105 during football and basketball.
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                                                                • slash
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 1000

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Richard already was a liar when he was with Royal, so nothing has changed.
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                                                                  • Bill Dozer
                                                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                                    • 10894

                                                                    #68
                                                                    There were a couple people who received 4 figures yesterday.
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                                                                    • katstale
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-07-07
                                                                      • 3924

                                                                      #69
                                                                      That is good news, Bill. Would you mind elaborating as to the method of payment? Transfers or checks? Some other way?
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                                                                      • JELLYBEAN
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 01-14-07
                                                                        • 303

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Some unknowing suckers must of deposited. Don't get your hopes up if your owed any significant amount.
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