<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whew. The “Kyrie has freedom of speech!” fans are really confused right now. Spent the whole week calling Black folks who criticized him sellouts. Now that he apologized, they don’t know what to do. On a bandwagon he left in a ditch.</p>— Myron Medcalf (@MedcalfByESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/MedcalfByESPN/status/1588509857464057856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Irving Suspended And Might be released
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19th HoleSBR Posting Legend- 03-22-09
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d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#247I wonder how many "freedom of speech" and "I stand with Kyrie" folks also stood with Kapernick?Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#248Freedom of speech is one thing, taking a knee during our National Anthem at football games and attention whoring is a completely different thing.Originally posted by d2betsI wonder how many "freedom of speech" and "I stand with Kyrie" folks also stood with Kapernick?Comment -
godukeSBR Posting Legend
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#249But posting on your social media to your followers isn’t attention whoring? Interesting….Originally posted by JIBBBYFreedom of speech is one thing, taking a knee during our National Anthem at football games and attention whoring is a complete different thing.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#250I'm still actively trying to find the fountain of youth. Indiana Jones style! I'll share the cup of life with all SBR members as I'm good like that when I find it.Originally posted by milwaukee mikenobody knows where it is... at this point without a picture it's hard to believe that it exists, has anyone ever seen this thing?
same with the throne of david, it has moved around but from what i see there is no proof it is in ethiopia
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d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#251Originally posted by JIBBBYFreedom of speech is one thing, taking a knee during our National Anthem at football games and attention whoring is a completely different thing.
Just like burning the flag, right?
It's all speech. You're just choosing what speech you like or don't like.
Political speech is the essence of freedom of speech.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#252Just release him
Nets dont want him or DurantComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#253Burning the American flag should be against the law especially if you are an American citizen. That's very disrespectful to Country, service men and soldiers that lost their lives in past wars. In other Countries you do that you get jailed or executed. Some lines can't be crossed.Originally posted by d2bets
Just like burning the flag, right?
It's all speech. You're just choosing what speech you like or don't like.
Political speech is the essence of freedom of speech.
I don't think you should be jailed for taking a knee or raising a fist during the National Anthem even though I don't like it.Comment -
packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
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#254Donating to those groups is no different than throwing your money down the toilet.Originally posted by KVBIt’s true, apparently.
The Nets have suspended Kyrie Irving without pay, saying they were dismayed by his failure to "unequivocally say he has no antisemitic beliefs," with Irving later issuing an apology for his social media post last week.
So despite donating to the Anti-Defamation League and the joint statement with the Nets Irving still didn’t quite produce the apology they were hoping for.
I did not see this coming, seems like Irving made right with at least the Nets, but the story wasn’t over.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#255Bottom line you cannot say anything you want if you work for someone
If your retired or private business owner you can say what you like and even that sometimes you can get in troubleComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#256Yeah, it was clearly for optics but it sure seemed like that could be the end of it the news. I thought they were all moving forward together.Originally posted by packerd_00Donating to those groups is no different than throwing your money down the toilet.
I guess not. Things really blew up on him. I can't tell if the Nets straight stabbed him in the back or not.
It sure feels like it, in some sense. Maybe I missed something.Comment -
Nate rastaSBR MVP
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#257I fell asleep half way through the movie.so far seems like the movie is just about how the original Jews were dark complected. I don't see that as being horribly anti-Semitic. At the same time I can see that both sides could be right.the jews that claim Isreal right now could be descendants of the real Jews.its possible after 1900 years they mixed with their Eastern European Neighbors and became more white overtime. People have to be open-minded and willing to discuss history and not be so sensitive and claim racismComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#258Lakers star LeBron James spoke on the recent controversy surrounding Nets star Kyrie Irving, who has been suspended and has faced backlash since posting a link to a documentary titled “From Hebrews to Negroes: Wake up Black America!,” a film with antisemitic views.
“I believe that what Kyrie did caused some harm to a lot of people,” James said after the Lakers 130-116 loss to the Jazz on Friday. “And he has since, over the last – I think it was today, or yesterday – he apologized. But he caused some harm and I think it’s unfortunate. But I don’t stand on the position to harm people when it comes to your voice or your platform or anything. So it doesn’t matter what color your skin is, how tall you are, what position you’re in. If you are promoting or soliciting or saying harmful things to any community that harms people, then I don’t respect it. I don’t condone it.”
Irving was suspended for “no less than five games” the Nets announced in a Thursday statement after he initially refused to apologize for his actions, which also included an endorsement of the “New World Order” views held by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.
“I can tell you this, it’s simple. Me personally, I don’t condone any hate to any kind,” James said. “To any race. To Jewish communities, to Black communities, to Asian communities. You guys know where I stand. And that’s part of the reason why I didn’t air ‘The Shop’ episode, why we kicked that out of the archives. Because it was hate conversation going on there. And I don’t represent that. There’s no place in this world for it."
Previously, James had scrapped publication plans of an episode of ‘The Shop,’ his talk show, with rapper Kanye West because of antisemitic remarks.
“I hope [Irving] understands what he did and the actions that he took are just harmful to a lot of people,” James said. “I really didn’t get into it too much. But, I understand that when you’re hurting anybody, I understand that. That is just common sense.”Comment -
fried cheeseSBR MVP
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#259no it shouldnt be against the law as long as you own the flag. if being disrespectful to the military was illegal then ppl could just say anyone that was against a war or anyone talking about war crimes was being disrespectful.Originally posted by JIBBBYBurning the American flag should be against the law especially if you are an American citizen. That's very disrespectful to Country, service men and soldiers that lost their lives in past wars. In other Countries you do that you get jailed or executed. Some lines can't be crossed.
I don't think you should be jailed for taking a knee or raising a fist during the National Anthem even though I don't like it.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#260James actually with a good statementComment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#261“I hope [Irving] understands what he did and the actions that he took are just harmful to a lot of people,” James said.Originally posted by asiagambler“I believe that what Kyrie did caused some harm to a lot of people,” James said after the Lakers 130-116 loss to the Jazz on Friday. “And he has since, over the last – I think it was today, or yesterday – he apologized. But he caused some harm and I think it’s unfortunate. But I don’t stand on the position to harm people when it comes to your voice or your platform or anything. So it doesn’t matter what color your skin is, how tall you are, what position you’re in. If you are promoting or soliciting or saying harmful things to any community that harms people, then I don’t respect it. I don’t condone it.”
Irving was suspended for “no less than five games” the Nets announced in a Thursday statement after he initially refused to apologize for his actions, which also included an endorsement of the “New World Order” views held by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.
“I can tell you this, it’s simple. Me personally, I don’t condone any hate to any kind,” James said. “To any race. To Jewish communities, to Black communities, to Asian communities. You guys know where I stand. And that’s part of the reason why I didn’t air ‘The Shop’ episode, why we kicked that out of the archives. Because it was hate conversation going on there. And I don’t represent that. There’s no place in this world for it."
Previously, James had scrapped publication plans of an episode of ‘The Shop,’ his talk show, with rapper Kanye West because of antisemitic remarks.
“I hope [Irving] understands what he did and the actions that he took are just harmful to a lot of people,” James said. “I really didn’t get into it too much. But, I understand that when you’re hurting anybody, I understand that. That is just common sense.”
Lebron you are nothing more than a coward. Go paint up your gate again... and blame racism. If anyone needs to go to jail for a few months... it would be Lebron to get his head straight not Griner. Anyone who files a false police report or gets police involved... jail sentence.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#262I don't know. I tend to say Fuk Lebronda.Originally posted by jjgoldJames actually with a good statement
Maybe he just gets frustrated and maybe it's just the feel of social justice movements, but it seems he's more of a divider than he makes it sound.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#263Seems like a carefully calculated statement from James
No doubt he wants Irving on his teamComment -
Nate rastaSBR MVP
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#264Here's a good video on the Throne of DavidOriginally posted by milwaukee mikenobody knows where it is... at this point without a picture it's hard to believe that it exists, has anyone ever seen this thing?
same with the throne of david, it has moved around but from what i see there is no proof it is in ethiopiaComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#265James is a divider but he was asked a tough question
Had to watch his back
social justice warriors are sickening just blame others for their failuresComment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#266Freedom of speech, dude. You want to criminalize speech that you don't like.Originally posted by JIBBBYBurning the American flag should be against the law especially if you are an American citizen. That's very disrespectful to Country, service men and soldiers that lost their lives in past wars. In other Countries you do that you get jailed or executed. Some lines can't be crossed.
I don't think you should be jailed for taking a knee or raising a fist during the National Anthem even though I don't like it.Comment -
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#267I think Irving and James friendship isn't really there. Irving knows James is a punk. It's one of those... "I'll wave my hand when I see you in Public." But I can't stand you from afar.Originally posted by asiagamblerSeems like a carefully calculated statement from James
No doubt he wants Irving on his teamComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#268<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Nets have delivered Kyrie Irving six items he must complete to return to team: <br><br>- Apologize/condemn movie<br>- $500K donation to anti-hate causes<br>- Sensitivity training<br>- Antisemitic training<br>- Meet with ADL, Jewish leaders<br>- Meet with Joe Tsai to demonstrate understanding</p>— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1589056640682426368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#269LOL HA HA HA HA!! Is this real? Can I get the video of Kyrie saying F U?Originally posted by asiagambler<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Nets have delivered Kyrie Irving six items he must complete to return to team: <br><br>- Apologize/condemn movie<br>- $500K donation to anti-hate causes<br>- Sensitivity training<br>- Antisemitic training<br>- Meet with ADL, Jewish leaders<br>- Meet with Joe Tsai to demonstrate understanding</p>— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1589056640682426368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Why not ask Kyrie if he'll go down on the owner too? Ridiculous.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#270
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#271Kyrie gonna get reprogrammed if he wants to play for the Nets. I bet Joe Tsai knows all about "education camps".Originally posted by asiagambler<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Nets have delivered Kyrie Irving six items he must complete to return to team: <br><br>- Apologize/condemn movie<br>- $500K donation to anti-hate causes<br>- Sensitivity training<br>- Antisemitic training<br>- Meet with ADL, Jewish leaders<br>- Meet with Joe Tsai to demonstrate understanding</p>— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1589056640682426368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Whatever will Kyrie do?
Were these demands issued before the suspension? It sounds like they were issues after.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#272Who cares what Pro Sports athletes say in the media? Really?
These are the people you should not listen to. They play sports for a living all day long and are not politically aware. They practice ball all day then come home and play xbox video games on their tv to relax. They all know nothing. Take their opinions with a grain of salt like I do. Children minds.Comment -
Mac4LyfeSBR Aristocracy
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#273Yet you get triggered whenever they say something or does something you don’t agree with… Strange.Originally posted by JIBBBYWho cares what Pro Sports athletes say in the media? Really?
These are the people you should not listen to. They play sports for a living all day long and are not politically aware. They practice ball all day then come home and play xbox video games on their tv to relax. They all know nothing. Take their opinions with a grain of salt like I do. Children minds.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#274Jibbs what if a player burned a US Flag? Would you blow it off just the same?Originally posted by JIBBBYWho cares what Pro Sports athletes say in the media? Really?
These are the people you should not listen to. They play sports for a living all day long and are not politically aware. They practice ball all day then come home and play xbox video games on their tv to relax. They all know nothing. Take their opinions with a grain of salt like I do. Children minds.
Seems you draw a line here.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#275Plus, most athletes have an IQ of about 15Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
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#276This is straight out of 1984..... I thought a donation was a voluntary thing -can't be ordered to volunteer..... and what's the point of saying something you don't believe?Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#277They could fine him but they are deciding to donate the fine for optics.Originally posted by IBetYouThis is straight out of 1984..... I thought a donation was a voluntary thing -can't be ordered to volunteer..... and what's the point of saying something you don't believe?
Consider it a fine by the team, which they can do.
As far as a fake apology, I'm guessing Irving would rather stay quiet and not say something he doesn't believe.
I agree, it's a lot of non basketball related workplace demands to get back in good graces, kind of look ridiculous.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#278If that list was there before the suspension, I get it, but if it came later then it sure does look like the Nets hung Irving out to dry and are using him here.Comment -
Nate rastaSBR MVP
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#279The woke got killed by wokeComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#280Irving should put out a tweet about Alibaba and their role in the persecution of the Uyghur population in China
That would really be something (I might actually start liking the guy for whatever that's worth)
Irving IS a Muslim isn't he ?Comment
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