ME PRO: Or, how to lose $1100 on poker and philosophy picks

[VegasDave]

good idea sticking with STT's... MTT's are a rip off if you play the tourneys, the MTT sitngos arent that bad.

I'll never forget how defated I felt after playing like an 8 hour giant MTT (6k plus entrants), got down to the last 50 or so, and my ROI was only like 3:1. Wow, thanks.

Yeah, I hear you. I've done really well in MTTs before, but it is such an epic battle just to crack the bubble. Nothing worse than playing for 3 or 4 hours and then getting bounced and getting nothing for all that time invested, either.

I'll probably throw in the occasional MTT, but only when the bankroll is healthy.

[VegasDave]

Pretty brutal day.. knew my luck would shift, but wasn't expecting it to be so damn soon. Lost just about every coinflip today, and had two nice river spikes to go with it.

1. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 3rd place / $36
2. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 6 entrants / 3rd place / $0
3. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 6th place / $0
4. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 6 entrants / 3rd place / $0
5. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 2nd place / $54
6. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 8th place / $0
7. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 8th place / $0
8. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 6 entrants / 3rd place / $0
9. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 6 entrants / 3rd place / $0

Bubbled on all four 6-mans today... owie.

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $542.47 (-$7.53)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $1092.47 (-$7.53)

[pat venditto]

Dave I am just giving you advice, but I would pull the money out of the poker site and just bet sports. Poker online is so random and honestly I don't understand why anyone would trust it. IMO betting sports is an alot more stable way to profit. Good luck my friend all the best.

[DrStale]

Dave I am just giving you advice, but I would pull the money out of the poker site and just bet sports. Poker online is so random and honestly I don't understand why anyone would trust it. IMO betting sports is an alot more stable way to profit. Good luck my friend all the best.

Disagree 100%. BOL.

[VegasDave]

Dave I am just giving you advice, but I would pull the money out of the poker site and just bet sports. Poker online is so random and honestly I don't understand why anyone would trust it. IMO betting sports is an alot more stable way to profit. Good luck my friend all the best.

It's not bad advice... I enjoy playing though, and actually consider myself more likely to be +EV in poker than sports betting at this point. But we shall see. My problem in the past with online poker had been my getting bored and playing stupid... hopefully I don't do that this time around.

[InTheHole]

What platform are you using for your Poker Play?

[VegasDave]

What platform are you using for your Poker Play?

Playing at Full Tilt

[VegasDave]

Figured I'd get one more in since I wasn't tired...

1. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 3rd place / $36

Fitting way to end it, AJ in the big blind, get min-raised, push, he calls with A6 and turns his 6 .
But I end the night a few dollars in the blue instead of the red

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $556.47 ($6.47)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $1106.47 ($6.47)

[DeluxeLiner]

Dave you doing philosophy picks for college fball?

[VegasDave]

Dave you doing philosophy picks for college fball?

For whatever reason, philosophy picks have ONLY worked for me in the NFL... but then again I've never really experimented with them in a full season of anything else.

I'm still a bit stubborn when it comes to capping... feel like I've only been at this for a couple of years and I can get better at it with hard work. But eventually I may give up on actually trying to cap altogether and focus strictly on philosophy picks.

I think the issue is that while many of the things that make philosophy picks work should still work in theory in college, I have to re-structure the system a little bit. In the pros, usually the very worst teams in the league can be competitive with the very best in the league on any given Sunday. In college, no matter how badly San Jose State wants this game, they are only going to win it 1 or 2 times out of 1000 times it is played.

Perhaps I'll start up a trial thread to track them and see how they do this year in college foots... hopefully you'll help me scope them out .

[VegasDave]

One nice thing about how unbearable that Oregon game was was that it prompted me to play a tourney or two while I was watching it, and pick up my first win of this deposit

1. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 1st place / $90
2. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / 9 entrants / 8th place / $0*

*Guy was down to 900, I was at 950 in the big blind. He pushes (as he had done numerous times before), I have AsJs and am pretty sure it's good, so I call. He flips over K2 and hits his deuce on the turn. No biggy.

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $602.47 (+$52.47)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $1152.47 (+$52.47)

[Chi_archie]

nice work, up 50+ bucks

[MexicanStallion]

Nice work Dave. Get back on a hot streak and win 1 tournament soon? K?

[VegasDave]

Nice work Dave. Get back on a hot streak and win 1 tournament soon? K?

What, ONE tourney win in 17 tries isn't enough for you?

[fiveteamer]

Vegas Dave you have a job now stop gambling.

You are a terrible gambler.

[onthewhat]

I'd make this post regardless of who's thread is, but Dave, don't be "that guy" talking about bad beats. You were maybe 60% to win on your bad beat hand. You've lost plenty of -130's or whatever in your day in sports...same thing. Not sure if the #s match up but you know what I mean...

[VegasDave]

I'd make this post regardless of who's thread is, but Dave, don't be "that guy" talking about bad beats. You were maybe 60% to win on your bad beat hand. You've lost plenty of -130's or whatever in your day in sports...same thing. Not sure if the #s match up but you know what I mean...

Are you referring to this?

*Guy was down to 900, I was at 950 in the big blind. He pushes (as he had done numerous times before), I have AsJs and am pretty sure it's good, so I call. He flips over K2 and hits his deuce on the turn. No biggy.

I agree whole heartedly, I didn't feel like that was a "bad beat" at all. That's why I said no biggy. When I finish in like 9th or 8th its usually uncharacteristic for me, so I was just recapping the key hand. I don't feel cheated at all.

I haven't used the word "bad beat" once in this entire thread. I talked about that one session being brutal, that I lost every coinflip, and that I got spiked on the river twice; I never said "WHAT A SICK BEAT" or "I DESERVED TO WIN". If you play 1000 hands, you have to know that 80% means you are going to lose 200 of them.

I haven't been "that guy" at all.

[MexicanStallion]

What, ONE tourney win in 17 tries isn't enough for you?

Oops I missed that last day with your win. I thought you were still on the 2nd place runs. Congrats on the first place finish . Keep on winning buddy

[VegasDave]

Oops I missed that last day with your win. I thought you were still on the 2nd place runs. Congrats on the first place finish . Keep on winning buddy

Haha, no worries. I will certainly try! Last night's Oregon game reminded me how tough it is going to be having money on these philosophy picks... lots of bad, bad football teams .

[VegasDave]

Wow, feel sick...

Lost a handful of tournaments, cards were just going against me left and right... for whatever reason I signed up for a $69+$6 45 man tourney just hoping for a change of pace.

Top 6 places get paid, made the final table and then finished in 9th. Arggghhh.

Don't know what to do. Already bored of $20 SNGs. This is why I can never play online poker. Get bored too easily. Need to rethink my plan...

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $431.47 (-$118.53)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $981.47 (-$118.53)

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Yea i feel you i was at the casino last few days turned the bankroll from 100 to 400+ twice and ended up getting total bad beats to end up around even minus vig(gas) for the 3 sessions

[onthewhat]

Updates?

[VegasDave]

Not doing great on poker, down about 250.

Decided not to keep this thread running though... I'm going to be betting more than just philo picks this year, and I want to start playing a lot less poker (maybe just an MTT every now and then) because it is far too time consuming. As such I've decided to keep my betting endeavors to myself for now.

Sorry to disappoint.

[Karayilan9]

In my opinion Online Poker has ruined the game, the skill element has almost been destroyed, the best part of the game for me is reading people, seeing them sweat and spotting the bluffer. You can't spot a bluffer or put in any body language and psychology cos you can't see no1.

BOL luck though, I hope you do well with the online poker bro

[fiveteamer]

VD honestly, give up.

Put your money in savings and be grateful for the 1.25%

[InTheHole]

Not doing great on poker, down about 250.

Decided not to keep this thread running though... I'm going to be betting more than just philo picks this year, and I want to start playing a lot less poker (maybe just an MTT every now and then) because it is far too time consuming. As such I've decided to keep my betting endeavors to myself for now.

Sorry to disappoint.

Poker is very addicting and time consuming. I decided to stop playing as it was taking away too much time from SBR.

[DeluxeLiner]

Any updates Dave?

[onthewhat]

He went broke