ME PRO: Or, how to lose $1100 on poker and philosophy picks

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 01:23 AM

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $550 (+/-$0)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $1100 (+/-$0)

topgame85 · 09-01-09, 01:24 AM

Davey welcome to SBR late night and best of luck where will you be playing sports and poker this year if I can ask?

lachapellek · 09-01-09, 01:26 AM

hey cam i join you in this i got 550 on stars more than that but lets play it if ud like let me know man

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by topgame85

Davey welcome to SBR late night and best of luck where will you be playing sports and poker this year if I can ask?

I'll have to check with the bosses, but I'm pretty sure we SBR mods in the office aren't allowed to wager offshores, so I will likely be keeping that stance publicly

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topgame85 · 09-01-09, 01:30 AM

Haha well GL anyway VD looking forwrd to your videos win lose or draw as they spice things up and have good insight regardless of the end result.

diogee · 09-01-09, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

I'm sticking to my guns and going with my bread

Move over Bread...there is a new pro in town.

Also mentions guns & Bread in the same sentence...not sure what to make of it.

BobHarvey · 09-01-09, 01:34 AM

Good luck Dave.

InTheHole · 09-01-09, 01:37 AM

Dave---check out YouTube for some nice info regarding "how to play" tournaments. Just my 2 cents. Videos like these are priceless.

InTheHole · 09-01-09, 01:38 AM

Who would have ever thunk it?

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 01:40 AM

Awesome that you are getting into the game ITH

InTheHole · 09-01-09, 01:47 AM

I have played a couple of 56player/ 128player sit and go and have final tabled numerous times (these are qualifiers so there is no prize for second place) just by being conservative. I was always short stacked suggesting I need to be a little more aggressive with my bigger hands and reading plays. Keep in mind I played my first game @ the Bash.

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by InTheHole

I have played a couple of 56player/ 128player sit and go and have final tabled numerous times (these are qualifiers so there is no prize for second place) just by being conservative. I was always short stacked suggesting I need to be a little more aggressive with my bigger hands and reading plays. Keep in mind I played my first game @ the Bash.

Right on man!

It's a great game. Playing conservative and getting a good understanding of pot odds is a great place to start and be competitive right away.

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 03:12 AM

Off to sleep... tonight's recap...

1. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / Six Handed / $20.00 + $2 / 6 entrants / 2nd place / $42
2. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / Six Handed / $20.00 + $2 / 6 entrants / 2nd place / $42

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $590 (+$40)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $1140 (+$40)

diogee · 09-01-09, 03:25 AM

Not a bad start...grinding on sng's was always pretty decent when I used to play quite a bit. More success tomorrow.

ijustwant2bpaid · 09-01-09, 05:03 AM

good luck, play tight, play the cake network at the greek or play at bofog and ur odds will increase in ur favor 4 sure, gl either way though..

onthewhat · 09-01-09, 06:24 AM

GL Dave

I don't see you lasting very long betting 10% on NFL sides, the sharpest of all lines at the books. You WILL fall down to earth and I'm banking on it being this year.

Chi_archie · 09-01-09, 06:30 AM

GL Dave, this should be an interesting thread to follow

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by onthewhat

GL Dave

I don't see you lasting very long betting 10% on NFL sides, the sharpest of all lines at the books. You WILL fall down to earth and I'm banking on it being this year.

You could be right, no doubt... 63% ATS just doesn't make any sense on NFL lines.

The nice thing though is that there are usually only 1-3 philosophy picks a week. So even if the first 6 weeks I'm something like 5-10, I'll still have $250 to hopefully catch a hot streak.

Even if you consider 63% a fluke and put my true winning percentage on these at, say, 53%, still a good chance that I can avoid being totally wiped out.

If I come storming out of the gate 0-10, as they say, so it goes.

InTheHole · 09-01-09, 10:22 AM

Good Luck. In reference to Nicky Jr's comments. There will always be a good luck as long as their is a stupid bettor. Take advantage of others mistakes.

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by InTheHole

Good Luck. In reference to Nicky Jr's comments. There will always be a good luck as long as their is a stupid bettor. Take advantage of others mistakes.

Most people enjoy trash-talking and what not for fun... Nicky Jr. will actually be rooting for me to lose real money. Sad world we live in. Going on past seasons, had I flat bet $55 to win $50...

2005: 27 - 13 - 1 (.675) = +$635
2006: 24 - 22 - 2 (.522) = -$10
2007: 14 - 7 - 2 (.667) = +$315
2008: 25 - 11 - 0 (.694) = +$645

Here's hoping that '09 doesn't take a dramatic turn for the worse

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onthewhat · 09-01-09, 10:48 AM

dave i will be playing these too, and sometimes on the same side as u (like last night). I will feel extra joy when we're on opposite sides though.

I think you'll lose on your own, unless you're at matchy...

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by onthewhat

dave i will be playing these too, and sometimes on the same side as u (like last night). I will feel extra joy when we're on opposite sides though.

I think you'll lose on your own, unless you're at matchy...

Not only do you THINK I'll lose, but you HOPE I'll lose. And that's sad. There isn't anyone on the board, including you, that I hope loses money this year. That goes beyond childish forum board grudges.

No matter though. Good luck this season.

InTheHole · 09-01-09, 10:58 AM

Dave I know you will hit .724. I am psychic like bread

VegasDave · 09-01-09, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by InTheHole

Dave I know you will hit .724. I am psychic like bread

That's why I titled this thread ME PRO.

Bread Pro.

VegasDave · 09-02-09, 12:57 AM

Hmm, apparently ME PRO = 2nd place. Sucks that I haven't been able to catch any cards late, but I'd rather catch them early and cash anyway, so I'm not too upset. 4 for 4 on finishing in the money so far. And yes, I know Herman, I won't finish in the money every time.

Tonight's recap...

1. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / Nine Handed / $20.00 + $2 / 9 entrants / 2nd place / $54
2. $20 + $2 Sit & Go / Six Handed / $20.00 + $2 / 6 entrants / 2nd place / $42

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $642 (+$92)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $1192 (+$92)

AMBlai01 · 09-02-09, 12:58 AM

Good Luck Dave!

pat venditto · 09-02-09, 12:59 AM

Dave orioles ml tommorow your welcome. Godbless good night.

VegasDave · 09-02-09, 02:10 AM

Oops, me not pro... signed up for this goofy ultra-shortstacked tourney $12+.50 and lost on the first hand. Being OCD, I figured I'd lose the other $9.50 to get to a nice round number (22). Sat at a $0.10 / $0.25 table with $9.50 and got a nice hand to get up to $12.77. Bought into a $11+1 9 person, and you won't be shocked what place I finished...

Recap:

1. $12 + $0.50 Sit & Go / Nine Handed / $12.00 + $0.50 / 48 entrants / 28th place / $0
2. Cash game... sit down with $9.50... leave with $12.77
2. $11 + $1 Sit & Go / Nine Handed / $11.00 + $1 / 9 entrants / 2nd place / $29.70

Current Bankroll:

Poker - $650.47 (+$100.47)
Football - $550 (+/-$0)

Total - $1200.47 (+$100.47)

onthewhat · 09-02-09, 06:34 AM

I don't really know much about poker, other than I lost a ton on Pokerstars when I was 18-19

I'll only comment on your sports betting

topgame85 · 09-02-09, 07:28 AM

VD is a 2nd place champion

VegasDave · 09-02-09, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by topgame85

VD is a 2nd place champion

Haha, apparently so.

Thought I'd finally crack that yesterday... Had 5500 to his 3500 heads up. Get dealt AcQc in the small blind. Every time I just call he pushes all in without fail. So I just call. He pushes all in, I call.

This time, he's got Aces. Oops.

I love losing to the better hand and on coinflips, though. I haven't been sucked out on and I haven't sucked anyone out through these 5 tourneys, which is really all I ask for. This is likely the calm before the bullshit-card storm, but hopefully the calm keeps rolling

Chi_archie · 09-02-09, 10:01 AM

this will by far be the most pressure David has had in a football season....... all eyes are on him AND real money is at stake..... AND Dave is up against some possible major regression to the mean.....

No second guessing here Dave, just win baby!

you got a ton of silent backers in your corner

VegasDave · 09-02-09, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

this will by far be the most pressure David has had in a football season....... all eyes are on him AND real money is at stake..... AND Dave is up against some possible major regression to the mean.....

No second guessing here Dave, just win baby!

you got a ton of silent backers in your corner

You've always been good to me Arch, looking forward to a productive season for both of us

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No added pressure or second guessing for me though! I've always given it my absolute all in picking winners and have always taken losing extremely personally. I will be just as upset if I lose and just as pleased if I win. The end game for me has always been picking winners; when I can do that consistently and confidently, the money will come

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stats13 · 09-02-09, 10:26 AM

good idea sticking with STT's... MTT's are a rip off if you play the tourneys, the MTT sitngos arent that bad.

I'll never forget how defated I felt after playing like an 8 hour giant MTT (6k plus entrants), got down to the last 50 or so, and my ROI was only like 3:1. Wow, thanks.