Brian Flores sues NFL for racial discrimination

[Mac4Lyfe]

How many Asian head coaches has there been?

If I was advising the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, NASCAR, tennis, soccer, etc., I would tell them it’s good business to diversify their business. Develop youth programs in various demographics. The NBA has done a great job internationally and now have players from almost every country. Basketball without borders is tremendous in Asia, Africa and Europe.

About a decade ago, I helped the NFL recruit Junior Military Officers to be officials. I have no idea how it ended up but it was a great concept. I believe Mike Pereira has a military program, battlefield something or another for officials. Think out the box. Don’t limit yourself in thinking only one type of person can do a job.

Budwiser said it best. A lot of owners want a lapdog. Someone they can tell what to do. They don’t want to yield that power. But when you are receiving local, state, government assistance, you lose some of that autonomy. This might bite them in the ass. I can see congress potentially stepping in here.

[stevenash]

If I were a white Supreme Court applicant should I be pissed at Biden?

[Demonata]

Demon - please explain to me

1) How in 50 years the NFL has only hired 10 black head coaches

2) How does the Giants already hire a guy and then interviews 3 black guys AFTER the FACT?

3) How does Brian Flores get fired for having a 2 year winning record and winning 8 of his last 9 games?

What does any of the above have to do with Left/Right, Dem/Repub? What side are you on? Very strange that you can't even afford a nice hotel, was on unemployment, cashed stimulus checks but you always side with the rich folks in these matters. Do you hate yourself that much? You are not in their club.

1. When there is a way bigger white population than black population to me it would be stranger if there were more black coaches than white coaches. More white people mean more likely that white people are hired. I bet more white people try to be coaches than black people try as well. It's pretty simple.

2. So they said someone else was hired but that they interviewed them anyway? Why bother interviewing them. That seems more of being dumb than being racist to me. That's 100% true? So you believe the giants are racist? I don't.

3. Nfl coaches are fired all the time,white or black. If they don't make playoffs they have risk of getting fired. Did his team make the playoffs the year he was fired?

What does me choosing to stay at the Luxor to be close to the titantic exhibit have to do with anything in Brian Flores getting fired? Next time I will stay at the Bellagio so you will feel better. So when my businesses I was doing security at closed down I shouldn't have been getting unemployment? I should have just not made money? So Brian Flores is not rich even though his net worth is 5 million? That is a lot of money to me, maybe not to you. I'm on the side of truth. That the more we talk about racism the longer it will never go away and and that not everything is racist.

[Mac4Lyfe]

If I were a white Supreme Court applicant should I be pissed at Biden?

Were you pissed when Trump said he was selecting a woman??

[Seattle Slew]

Flores is a fool. Everyone telling him he was a lock for another job when it was clear his issues in Miami were more than wins and losses. So he gets to the end of the process and gets pissed off and sues. Lame. Plus, he throws Belichick right under the bus when all he did was prove he doesn't know how to use a cell phone properly. Then he slanders Denver's people and the Giants and Miami people.

Some of what he's saying is likely true, but it is very unlikely all those accusations are true.

Guy looks like he has anger issues to me. Firing all the people he did in Miami in 3 years is a clear red flag.

Of course, he could have sat for a year and likely been hired next year somewhere.

[chico2663]

If I were a white Supreme Court applicant should I be pissed at Biden?

No. I agree we can use a black woman.

[chico2663]

Well the Hispanic Brian Flores is worth 8 million so this is probably his lottery ticket.

[stevenash]

Were you pissed when Trump said he was selecting a woman??

No, only because I wasn't an applicant.
And I'm not a Trump supporter either.
I voted Indie last election.

[ridgeway]

Fire all white people. That should solve the problem. Then what will be the excuse for their failures?

[stake1]

Hue Jackson is saying he was paid to lose by Haslam in Cleveland, and can prove it

[MinnesotaFats]

I love the 2 for 6

I love BK in general, but it's a dead business.

In mpls here one franchisee went ch 7 2 years ago, 14 locations shut overnight in Henn/ Rams counties.

Only a handful of BK left in Minny

[Mac4Lyfe]

1. When there is a way bigger white population than black population to me it would be stranger if there were more black coaches than white coaches. More white people mean more likely that white people are hired. I bet more white people try to be coaches than black people try as well. It's pretty simple.

2. So they said someone else was hired but that they interviewed them anyway? Why bother interviewing them. That seems more of being dumb than being racist to me. That's 100% true? So you believe the giants are racist? I don't.

3. Nfl coaches are fired all the time,white or black. If they don't make playoffs they have risk of getting fired. Did his team make the playoffs the year he was fired?

What does me choosing to stay at the Luxor to be close to the titantic exhibit have to do with anything in Brian Flores getting fired? Next time I will stay at the Bellagio so you will feel better. So when my businesses I was doing security at closed down I shouldn't have been getting unemployment? I should have just not made money? So Brian Flores is not rich even though his net worth is 5 million? That is a lot of money to me, maybe not to you. I'm on the side of truth. That the more we talk about racism the longer it will never go away and and that not everything is racist.

You didn't answer any of my questions.

1. Yep, there's more white people BUT based on proportionality shouldn't there be at a minimum 3 or 4 black coaches EVERY year? Why would more white people try to be coaches when there's much more players that are black? Traditionally, most coaches come from players.

2. Did the Giants interview any WHITE candidates AFTER they hired Daboll? Yes they are dumb enough to interview several black people AFTER they offered the white guy. Which is why they are going to get sued out of their ass.

3. Please name me ANY white coach that was fired without a losing record? Please find me ANY white coach that was fired after winning 8 of their last 9 games? That is crazy pants and you know it.


Lastly, you and Brian Flores are hired help. You and him will not make the rules and will be totally reliant on the guys that run the show. Yet, for some reason, you ALWAYS side with rich wealthy (mostly white) guys who DO NOT have your best interest at heart. It's as if you think you are in their club but you will NEVER, EVER get in their club. You are just a pawn.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Hue Jackson is saying he was paid to lose by Haslam in Cleveland, and can prove it

You better believe a shitload of people are about to be put on this class action lawsuit. This has just begun. Flores and his lawyers know there's other people out there that have the same experiences. Just like Deshaun Watson, the NFL is fukkked.


Flores is dead set on changing the NFL culture. He does not seem motivated by money. They pissed off the wrong guy.

[thetrinity]

Hard to tell with Bienemy having Andy Reid and Mahomes there. Kinda like Tom Brady having a QB coach. Read some time ago that teams are still put off by his checkered past and off-field issues.

I’ve said that about bienemy. The fact he has Andy Reid and maholmes is a big reason he’s not a head coach yet. Also lots of deep playoff runs can’t help with impatient teams.

[chico2663]

I love BK in general, but it's a dead business.

In mpls here one franchisee went ch 7 2 years ago, 14 locations shut overnight in Henn/ Rams counties.

Only a handful of BK left in Minny

Shitload in htn

[Mac4Lyfe]

No, only because I wasn't an applicant.
And I'm not a Trump supporter either.
I voted Indie last election.

Does it matter if you are a Trump/Biden supporter? You said should a white supreme court applicant be upset by Biden? Well shouldn't a male supreme court applicant (black, white, red, yellow) be upset by Trump? Trump said he was selecting a woman and NONE of you complained. Biden said he was selecting a BLACK woman and now you are pissed. Funny.

Presidents nominate whoever they want to nominate for scotus. Biden prevented the first black woman from being selected for scotus under Bush. Maybe he regrets that decision and is making up for it here.

[lonegambler23]

he was going to get a job. this guy may be the biggest moron on the planet right now. now he better hope he gets money to live his life. if not he will never see a big job again

[thetrinity]

You better believe a shitload of people are about to be put on this class action lawsuit. This has just begun. Flores and his lawyers know there's other people out there that have the same experiences. Just like Deshaun Watson, the NFL is fukkked.


Flores is dead set on changing the NFL culture. He does not seem motivated by money. They pissed off the wrong guy.

They all are pissed at the beginning, then give up and settle.

[thetrinity]

he was going to get a job. this guy may be the biggest moron on the planet right now. now he better hope he gets money to live his life. if not he will never see a big job again

He wasn’t going to get one this year, but he would have gotten another chance for sure in a few years.

[Yulia74]

Hue Jackson suggests he was paid extra for losses as Browns head coach

thats why nobody wants to hire them, theyre not professional

[stevenash]

Does it matter if you are a Trump/Biden supporter? You said should a white supreme court applicant be upset by Biden? Well shouldn't a male supreme court applicant (black, white, red, yellow) be upset by Trump? Trump said he was selecting a woman and NONE of you complained. Biden said he was selecting a BLACK woman and now you are pissed. Funny.

Presidents nominate whoever they want to nominate for scotus. Biden prevented the first black woman from being selected for scotus under Bush. Maybe he regrets that decision and is making up for it here.

I'm just asking the question.

If you ask me the NFL is a business, the owner has the right to hire/fire anybody he so chooses to assist him/her with the business without being told what the hiring process should or should not be, who to hire, etc...

[thetrinity]

Hue Jackson suggests he was paid extra for losses as Browns head coach

thats why nobody wants to hire them, theyre not professional

My guess is he didn’t have to try to hard to lose.

[thetrinity]

I'm just asking the question.

If you ask me the NFL is a business, the owner has the right to hire/fire anybody he so chooses to assist him/her with the business without being told what the hiring process should or should not be, who to hire, etc...

This is where I stand. Obviously the giants wanted daboll they whole time. They hire a bills assistant GM, he said this guy is going to be a good head coach, and that’s it. Should always be that easy. Because of the Rooney rule, they had to run a bunch of sham interviews.

[stevenash]

This is where I stand. Obviously the giants wanted daboll they whole time. They hire a bills assistant GM, he said this guy is going to be a good head coach, and that’s it. Should always be that easy. Because of the Rooney rule, they had to run a bunch of sham interviews.

And Daboll had a great working relationship with Schoen together in the past.
This is not a race issue, and I'm the furthest thing from an Oliver Stone conspiracy kook. I'm starting to think there's a lot of 'funny' business going on in the background here.

[Mac4Lyfe]

He wasn’t going to get one this year, but he would have gotten another chance for sure in a few years.

Where are you getting this? Please name me 3 black head coaches that got fired and then hired AGAIN by an NFL team??? There's been 10 black head coaches in the history of the NFL and Dungy and Caldwell are the only 2 that got a second chance. Most black coaches get hired with a shitty team and are never heard of again. They are just stop gaps during the down years to purposely tank to get draft picks. The coach in Houston? Raw fukking deal. This is the history.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I'm just asking the question.
If you ask me the NFL is a business, the owner has the right to hire/fire anybody he so chooses to assist him/her with the business without being told what the hiring process should or should not be, who to hire, etc...

The owners all agreed to the Rooney rule. Obviously some of them have no intentions of following it.

The NFL is big business. But owners cannot do whatever they want in hiring and firing. They are about to painfully find that out with this case.

[MinnesotaFats]

[QUOTE=chico2663;30755421]Shitload in
Ya I think they're more prevelant in the south.

Tons in Florida

But hard to see the model competing long term w McD, CfA, Panera etc

[Mac4Lyfe]

This is where I stand. Obviously the giants wanted daboll they whole time. They hire a bills assistant GM, he said this guy is going to be a good head coach, and that’s it. Should always be that easy. Because of the Rooney rule, they had to run a bunch of sham interviews.

Sorry but that thinking is old, stale and loser good old boy mentality. I've heard this from hiring managers for years in the oil field. The companies that did not diversify are no longer with us.

[MinnesotaFats]

The owners all agreed to the Rooney rule. Obviously some of them have no intentions of following it.

The NFL is big business. But owners cannot do whatever they want in hiring and firing. They are about to painfully find that out with this case.

The Rooney Rule is a self regulating agreement between a network of individual franchises. It's not a State or Federal law.

There is no State or Federal law that mandates hiring qoutas.

The lawsuit about discrimination lacks basis.

The discovery portion, however, is going to get ugly if there are owners throwing games

[Mac4Lyfe]

And Daboll had a great working relationship with Schoen together in the past.
This is not a race issue,

Are you sure?

[stevenash]

The owners all agreed to the Rooney rule. Obviously some of them have no intentions of following it.

The NFL is big business. But owners cannot do whatever they want in hiring and firing. They are about to painfully find that out with this case.

Flores and his team will not defeat Goodell and his team.
Goodell is pure evil and capable of anything, including murder if he needs to resort to it.

I don't have a dog in this fight, I believe in the best qualified applicant and all that.
And I'm not a fan of Goodell either, he's pure evil.
And I don't have a racist bone in my body (that's what they tell me anyways)
Don't confuse a sarcastic, tongue in cheek response from me every now and then as racism either.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

The Rooney Rule is a self regulating agreement between a network of individual franchises. It's not a State or Federal law.

There is no State or Federal law that mandates hiring qoutas.

The lawsuit about discrimination lacks basis.

The discovery portion, however, is going to get ugly if there are owners throwing games

Thank God the Vikings new GM is a Irish guy

[lonegambler23]

Fire all white people. That should solve the problem. Then what will be the excuse for their failures?

exactly lmaoooo

[stevenash]

Are you sure?

I don't know either personally, but I do contribute as a freelance writer to a couple of sports online publications that do know and whom I trust say so.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Why is Roger Pure Evil Nash? He is a businessman. and a good one at that I would think?