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  • BuddyBear
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 7233

    #1
    Off topic: What's the point of tipping?
    I know that you need to tip in certain situation but it really drives me crazy. I mean i get my haircut I have to tip (service), Have to tip the waitress, have to tip the valet guy to park a car in which I could have done myself, have to tip the bartender for serving me a drink, have to tip the black jack dealer for good luck, have to tip the doorman or the guy who stands in the elevator and pushes a button, have to tip a gas station attendant for full service, have to tip the pushy cabby, etc...It's starting to get really obnoxious. I figure I spend in a year anywhere between $150-$250 on tips and I am a student so who knows what you high rollers are tipping.

    What puzzles me is why somethings need tips and others don't that are equal in nature.

    For example, I don't tip a flight attendant, I don't tip the guy who changes my oil for my car, I don't tip a bus driver, I don't tip the babysitter anything extra on top of what s/he was owed, I don't tip a life guard, etc...

    What's going on here guys...anyone else feel the same way
  • BAUS
    SBR MVP
    • 08-10-05
    • 2191

    #2
    I agree 100%. Tipping is out of hand, especially in Vegas. Most cocktail waitresses act like the tip is expected. Like robots, most of them: put your drink down on the the table, extend hand for tip, walk away to repeat procedure. I'm quite sick of it myself.

    BAUS
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    • natrass
      SBR MVP
      • 09-14-05
      • 1242

      #3
      You've touched a nerve there BB. Someone cutting your hair, someone bringing your food, you cant even chat with a atxi driver without thinking "is he after a big tip or are we just having a chat?".

      Especially waitresses ... they get minimum wage (over £5 an hour in the UK) ... which is all the cleaner will get when weve all gone home BTW ... and Id rather be a waiter than a cleaner.

      Its even worse if you go to a third world country because tourists can be leaving like massively disproportionate tips in places like India, Vietnam, Bali, etc ... we're talking like (sometimes) two days wages kind of tips .... for just ten minutes work sometimes.
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      • Senator7
        SBR MVP
        • 08-20-05
        • 1559

        #4
        Apparently, you're supposed to tip people who don't make enough money for the work they do. The other problem is that because tipping has got to be so routine, employers have built tips into their employees' salaries. If a restauraunt paid a waitress $10 an hour, she wouldn't need the tips. Instead, they pay her $3 an hour plus tips. The problem I have is tipping the dealer at the Hold'em table. What the hell has he done for me? BuddyBear is right as usual, tipping is getting out of hand and costly.

        Senator 7
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        • moses millsap
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-25-05
          • 8289

          #5
          I don't mind tipping at all and think I tip rather well, most of the time.
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          • natrass
            SBR MVP
            • 09-14-05
            • 1242

            #6
            However, I did see someone give the guy behind the counter at Corals a couple of quid when he picked up a (presumably) nice earner.

            It was nice because it was unexpected and, yet, probably appropriate if they "knew" each other from the shop.
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            • natrass
              SBR MVP
              • 09-14-05
              • 1242

              #7
              In Greece its a "custom" to tip a doctor before an operation. Im not kidding ... they give him a little parcel or envelope with a "gift". I couldn't believe it.

              (Sorry, not literally on the operating table ... but you know when he does the bed visit the day before and the family are there).
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              • JoshW
                SBR MVP
                • 08-10-05
                • 3431

                #8
                Lot of jobs are set up around it. You make shit, but you get tips. I dont mind doing it because I like to reward good service, but I agree it can add up quick and who is usually tipped doesn't always make sense. I tend to tip in all the regular customs, plus some others that aren't traditional, especially if the service is exceptional.
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                • jay88
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-14-05
                  • 498

                  #9
                  I only TIP when it is convenient for me.
                  I give high tips only at clubs and restaurants that I visit frequently. The service I receive is unique and it is a great impression for the ladies when you don't do lines, there is always a table waiting for you and they call you by your name.
                  Of course a $10 tip down here in Costa Rica will have the bartender remember your name for the rest of his life. I guess in the UK you would have to tip them $100 for them to remember you.
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                  • bigboydan
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 55420

                    #10
                    BB, it's funny you should mention haircut, i do not tip my barber. reason being is he owns the shop. which i guess leads me to the next question, do you guys feel you should tip a shop owner ?
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                    • jay88
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 09-14-05
                      • 498

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bigboydan
                      BB, it's funny you should mention haircut, i do not tip my barber. reason being is he owns the shop. which i guess leads me to the next question, do you guys feel you should tip a shop owner ?
                      I don't... His tip is the bill...
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                      • Shawn01
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 10-23-05
                        • 252

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bigboydan
                        BB, it's funny you should mention haircut, i do not tip my barber. reason being is he owns the shop. which i guess leads me to the next question, do you guys feel you should tip a shop owner ?
                        No. I sure wish people tipped me, but I don't see that happening in my line of work.
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                        • Max Levine
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-12-05
                          • 614

                          #13
                          I learned when I was younger that tip meant To Insure Promptness. So I had this discussion with some people as to why I should tip when I actually get a slow service.

                          Here, in restaurants, we have to tip no matter what since the waiter has to add 8% income of every bill on his/her tax report. But when I actually get a slow or bad service, I reduce my tip down to 10%. Some leave 8% + a penny, others write a note on the back of the bill. Many restaurants simply include the tip on the bill.

                          I also give 10% to the pizza guy, more if it's snowing (with good service, of course).

                          And no, you don't tip the owner.

                          I also place a chip for the BJ dealer to play with when I've had a winning session. Same way as I put down half a unit on a play for someone who gave me a winning pick I'm kidding here but I should start doing that. Dan, I'll place a bet for you

                          Max
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                          • bigboydan
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 55420

                            #14
                            only 10% to the pizza guy ?? i thought 15% was perty standard as far as tipping goes IMHOO

                            BTW,
                            Max, don't worry about placing a bet for me bud. i'm just glad your profiting off my plays.
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                            • Max Levine
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-12-05
                              • 614

                              #15
                              The etiquette here is 10% to the pizza guy. Maybe it's different in the US.

                              Max
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                              • Aces
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-22-05
                                • 1278

                                #16
                                A wise old fellow once asked me at a Blackjack Table "Does the dealer tip you when he wins ? " Hell No.

                                The way I play at Casinos now is I never tip untill the end.

                                Many nights after a hot streak has gone bad I wished I could get the dealer to open the tip box for a refund.
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                                • raiders72001
                                  Senior Member
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 11172

                                  #17
                                  Tipping insures good service. The better the service the better the tip.
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                                  • pags11
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-18-05
                                    • 12264

                                    #18
                                    my mom was a waitress and a school teacher when we were growing up (my dad taught as well)...she always taught me to tip...I don't do anything crazy usually 15%, no less than 10% and no more that 20%...I just know the spot many people that are in the service industry are in...
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                                    • freebie
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 1174

                                      #19
                                      I don't mind tipping food delivery person, because of the high price gas and extreme weather they have to bring the food to me. I give generous tips to waiters/waitress and food delivery.

                                      I called Outback Steakhouse for a curbside pickup and the skank expected me to tip her. It's a freaking pickup, meaning I come to pickup why tip?

                                      She asked if I wanted change back outta my money. I had no choice but to say "keep the change ($5)"
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                                      • ronald
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-31-05
                                        • 4919

                                        #20
                                        I made a post on therx months ago. I started a club called DART (Dindons Against Ridiculous Tipping). All of you are welcome to join my club. The philosophy is this: I will tip if I expect it will get me a return. For example, I will tip at a hotel desk if I think it may get me an upgrade. I WILL NOT overly tip someone who is simply doing their job (ie, waitress). They earn their wages. It is not my job to subsidize. If they feel they aren't paid well enough, they can look for another job. The other night at a restaurant I left a 26 cent tip. I slept quite well that night. I also don't agree with tipping a proportion of the bill. Is it harder for the waitress to carry a $35 steak as opposed to a $6 burger? Ridiculous. So what I do is this: When service meets my standards, I will tip 15% or $5, whichever is less. So basically my tip amount is capped at $5.

                                        Now don't get me wrong. I'm not cheap. I just don't think it is logical to tip a waitress. People who I DO tip are: 1) the gas attendant who pumps my gas if I use Full Serve in the winter. 2) the maids at a hotel (they are so pleasant and they usually do a fine job).

                                        I invite everyone to adopt these principles and join DART. I am not against tipping, but I AM against ridiculous tipping!
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                                        • moses millsap
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-25-05
                                          • 8289

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by freebie
                                          I called Outback Steakhouse for a curbside pickup and the skank expected me to tip her. It's a freaking pickup, meaning I come to pickup why tip?

                                          She asked if I wanted change back outta my money. I had no choice but to say "keep the change ($5)"
                                          We used to get that all the time from Outback and always tipped. My buddy worked there and said the waiter/waitress has to prepare the entire bag, etc. I don't really care, as it's only a few bucks and these people are struggling. I don't remember the exact details, since it was when I was back in NY, but the Outback employees do expect a tip on curbside pickup.
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                                          • stump
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-14-05
                                            • 1718

                                            #22
                                            tipping sucks, i hate having to tip the girl who cuts my hair, why do i have to tip her?
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                                            • marc
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-15-05
                                              • 1166

                                              #23
                                              When it comes to casino's I also learned not to tip the dealer until the end. If you keep tipping the dealer every time you hit black jack, your payout ratio is going to be a lot worse. If when i leave I'm up, I'll give the dealer a tip. Otherwise, I don't want to tip if I'm in the red, unless there is something really speacial about the dealer.

                                              I can understand tipping some poeple like a waiter/waitress. YOur dining experience can really be effected by how good their service is. And if they feel that by gving you better service they get more money, they will give you that better service. otherwise its a boring job, and if there is no tip to look foward to, they'll probably get burnt out pretty quickly.

                                              Then you have people like skykaps at the airport. it doesn't matter whther you give them $1/bag or $10/bag they can only do so much for you, but if they were free, everyone would use them, so Ic an see the logic of suggestion that people tip them, just to cut down on the number of people who request thier service.

                                              but I recently went to a resort in Perto Rico, and I ad no idea who I was suppose to tip, and how much I was supposed to tip. And it dorve me nuts. Every time a hotel employeed id something for me, I kept wondering, do I need to tip this person.. i think next time i go somehwere, I'm going to ask the hotel if they can send me a suggested tip list.
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                                              • freebie
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 1174

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by OWNED
                                                We used to get that all the time from Outback and always tipped. My buddy worked there and said the waiter/waitress has to prepare the entire bag, etc. I don't really care, as it's only a few bucks and these people are struggling. I don't remember the exact details, since it was when I was back in NY, but the Outback employees do expect a tip on curbside pickup.
                                                Other restaurants do the same preparation for your pickups and they don't expect a tip.

                                                Don't get me wrong. I give over 15% tip when I dine in at Outback, but don't think I should tip them for just picking up my food. Anyway, I always end up giving a tip when I go pickup at Outback.
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                                                • moses millsap
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-25-05
                                                  • 8289

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by freebie
                                                  Other restaurants do the same preparation for your pickups and they don't expect a tip.

                                                  Don't get me wrong. I give over 15% tip when I dine in at Outback, but don't think I should tip them for just picking up my food. Anyway, I always end up giving a tip when I go pickup at Outback.
                                                  Yeah, I just feel bad though on takeout, cause it's usually just $15-$20, so how can I not tip a few bucks? Especially, since it was usually snowing or extremely shitty weather they have to walk out in to get me my food. I hear you though.

                                                  I once tried to tip somebody at a Walmart or some store like that where I bought something larger in size and they helped me get it in my car, but they refused the tip.
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                                                  • kalmikrazy
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 09-01-05
                                                    • 418

                                                    #26
                                                    Should you tip at a sonic drive in?
                                                    i feel guilty and end up tipping usually!!!
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                                                    • stealthyburrito
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-12-09
                                                      • 21562

                                                      #27
                                                      does anyone tip for carryout pizza?

                                                      i mean there's a line for a tip but its not like anyone took the time to get it to you, you went there for it.

                                                      i don't get it.
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                                                      • texhooper
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 10001

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                                                        does anyone tip for carryout pizza?

                                                        i mean there's a line for a tip but its not like anyone took the time to get it to you, you went there for it.

                                                        i don't get it.
                                                        no. no way in hell.
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                                                        • Doug
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 6324

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bigboydan
                                                          BB, it's funny you should mention haircut, i do not tip my barber. reason being is he owns the shop. which i guess leads me to the next question, do you guys feel you should tip a shop owner ?
                                                          Hell you don't even have any hair.
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                                                          • flyingillini
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 41219

                                                            #30
                                                            Brock Landers should be entering this thread soon. He makes most of his Pizza income off of the Tips.
                                                            המוסד‎
                                                            המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                            • Brock Landers
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 06-30-08
                                                              • 45359

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by flyingillini
                                                              Brock Landers should be entering this thread soon. He makes most of his Pizza income off of the Tips.
                                                              yep, though it represents 1/20th of my annual salary at my real job. 5 dollar tips or more are nice.
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                                                              • Brock Landers
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 06-30-08
                                                                • 45359

                                                                #32
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                                                                • Sunde91
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                                  • 8325

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Brock FUKING Landers...I was 5 seconds away from posting that exact video..

                                                                  Why the fuk is tipping compulsory?

                                                                  Bullshit social construct..
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                                                                  • GELATINOUS CUBE
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-09-09
                                                                    • 4534

                                                                    #34
                                                                    So-they-don't-fart-on-your-food
                                                                    next-time
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                                                                    • stealthyburrito
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-12-09
                                                                      • 21562

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by GELATINOUS CUBE
                                                                      So-they-don't-fart-on-your-food
                                                                      next-time
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