Boys, here is the best advice I will ever give on this forum..................

themajormt · 08-19-09, 11:10 AM

I bought my house on my OWN and if I get married that house will stay in my name and I will have a pre-nup. Fukk these lazy ass women who feel like they are entitled to everything. He is going to have to support her ass until the kid is 18 or 24 and out of college, and she gets to go get her nails done everyday and be a whore and collect checks. That shits messed up...

My best friend from high school got his girlfriend pregnant 2 years ago, he left his $50k a year job, friends, and family to move to Pittsburg with her because thats where her mom lived. He worked 2 jobs, SCRAPING just to get by while she did nothing and sat at home with the kid. She said it didnt make sense financially for her to work because of day care... She treated him like a piece of shit and would just yell at him and tell him hes a loser. So they finally break up, she takes him to court and he has to pay $575 a MONTH in child support. The guy is only making $35k right now!!! She works part time, 15 hours a week and she gets a $575 pay check??? She contributes nothing!!!

WOMEN are fukkkkkked up!

Rich Boy · 08-19-09, 11:22 AM

Sad story nicky... People should just be together without getting married.

I knew this one girl in my class a few years ago, her parents werent married and when things went south they just split up, no legal bs, no court dates, nothing. It was very simple.

jjgold · 08-19-09, 11:28 AM

Suckers get married
man loses everything
he is a slave if married
he is prisoner in his own home

don't have kids and do not get married and fall into the trap.

Richkas · 08-19-09, 11:30 AM

Women are evil.

TheBeautifulGame · 08-19-09, 11:30 AM

It's simple, when a couple gets married and at some stage want to get a divorce, you should leave the marriage with whatever you brought into it. You paid for half a house/car whatever, you get half of the value back. However, if you did not pay for it, you should not get anything.

I don't see how a woman or man (if it's the other way around) should be ENTITLED to half of everything if they did not contribute any amount financially to it. It simply does not make any sense.

paco · 08-19-09, 11:34 AM

Many of my people take there wives who want divorce bak to Bangladesh for a vacation, but only come bak alone

Nicky Santoro · 08-19-09, 11:37 AM

richie, jj and major all great points..

that's the key, just stay as a couple like me and the GF now.. all is in my name, even the lease here for the apt. we have no kids.. so if it never works out, i don't have to give her anything, she just leaves.. but if i married her or even had a kid with her, and she decided to leave me, my life is over and her life is set.. because my poor cousins wife decided to leave him, she is now set for life with not having to work another day that fukkin gold digger. and this guy worked 70 hrs a week for her and saved up money for the family too.. now she has that all for her.. Now this guy can easily kill himself. you have no idea the state he's in... i might call 911, no joke. i am worried for him. he had it all with the family and now he'll be alone in a 1 bedroom apt with no wife, no cash, no son, cause she has that all.

it's too easy for a woman to just say i want a divorce and now she is set for life and never has to work again.

all this because he trusted her and never listened to me.. all this because he didnt sign a fukkin pre nup.. women make me sick.. all they want is money money money..fukk them..

smarmy · 08-19-09, 11:39 AM

Well, he's still making the same money that he always has, right? Pay her off, get her off the hook and start over. Sure it sucks, but learn from it and move on. Being suicidal over a spouce is dumb. She's leaving you for another guy, go find another girl, only don't marry this one!

Nickelicious · 08-19-09, 11:39 AM

I've been married over 15 years and have two kids that mean everything to me. Both my wife and I have changed over the years, though, and the marriage itself has been dead for several years.

I just wanted kids. Now I got 'em. Just looking for the right exit strategy now that the kids are approaching their teen years. That will only leave her with a few years of child support to rely on. The good thing is, I have refused to knuckle under to my wife's bitching and criticism and I just lead a happy life. What she says has little meaning to me anymore.

Money is important, but it doesn't mean everything to me. I will be perfectly happy being a divorced dad and living my own life, even in a smaller house. When the kids grow up, they will be able to look back and see the truth for what it was.

I didn't plan it this way. I'd rather be with someone I love, but shit happens. So whether you get married or not, don't become reliant or dependent on your significant other or spouse for your identity. Be who you are and stand up for what you believe in. And while you can hope for the best, you have to plan for the worst.

BestPlay2day · 08-19-09, 11:39 AM

Guys should play this game. Find a rich woman to marry, let her work while you stay home and gamble and drink all day.

Willie Bee · 08-19-09, 11:43 AM

Fear of failure is never a good reason NOT to do something.

Nicky Santoro · 08-19-09, 11:47 AM

all i say is this.. IF you meet a woman and you really do fall in love with her.. do what everyone always advises me.. and that is DO NOT GET MARRIED..

i say just do everything besides that piece of paper.. even my notary told me this 2 weeks ago. he said nicky, live with her, love her, treat her like a wife, spoil her, care for her.. but nicky, DO NOT MARRY HER.. that's it.. that's all..

he told me, if you officially marry her OR have a kid with her, that's it.. you're stuck for life..he said as long as you don't marry her and just be like a married couple and live together, then she can never have your house, or your bank accts.

so i say this.. is it really worth it all this just for that piece of paper?? living with someone and being married is no difference, except everything is yours this way.. not hers..

Nickelicious · 08-19-09, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

all i say is this.. IF you meet a woman and you really do fall in love with her.. do what everyone always advises me.. and that is DO NOT GET MARRIED..

i say just do everything besides that piece of paper.. even my notary told me this 2 weeks ago. he said nicky, live with her, love her, treat her like a wife, spoil her, care for her.. but nicky, DO NOT MARRY HER.. that's it.. that's all..

he told me, if you officially marry her OR have a kid with her, that's it.. you're stuck for life..he said as long as you don't marry her and just be like a married couple and live together, then she can never have your house, or your bank accts.

so i say this.. is it really worth it all this just for that piece of paper?? living with someone and being married is no difference, except everything is yours this way.. not hers..

I guess you live in a place where common law marriages have little influence on the laws. The laws vary widely from state to state, country to country, but in some places you can be on the hook for everything, just like a legal marriage, and you even have to file for a legal divorce (and go through ALL THAT) to break up with your "wife."

Rich Boy · 08-19-09, 12:37 PM

Marriage was invented when people only lived to be 30-40 y/o, they would just die before things went south. No point breaking up, making a big scene, etc, when your going to die in a few years.

Its not natural to be with someone for 10+ years, at first you will love them and want to be around them all the time but those feelings fade.

Theres a saying... Show me a hot girl, and Ill show you a man whos tired of ****ing her.

Id rather pay $150 to get my dick sucked instead

pavyracer · 08-19-09, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

and pay attention please..... you ready????.................

DON'T EVER GET MARRIED.....

my only cousin who i adore got married 20 yrs ago.. they had the perfect marriage.. he worked really hard in life.. he bought a big nice house.. it took him 18 yrs to finally pay it off.. today, it's worth a fortune. she was a great wife.. they had a beautiful cute son together. they really were the ultimate couple.. they were happy, she loved him to death.. He continued to work hard and provide for them. he made $$$, but worked very hard for it. He took them on vacations 3 times a year, he spoiled them. he's a great guy.

For the last 20 yrs, i'd been telling him, ronny, aren't you scared she might take all your money one day.. he said, NO, she's not like that. i told him to make a prenup, he said, no need to. we love each other too much.

3 days ago, i get a call from him crying on the phone.. his wife wants a divorce.. she says she don't love him anymore. (i think there's another guy).. she is going to get half the house (350k each), that he paid for alone.. she gets half his accts (400k each approx).. and she gets the son and now, he can only see his son on weekends only..

she went from a poor girl 20 yrs ago, to a millionaire now.. my poor cousin is crying. he is suicidal now.. he wants to die. he loves her to death and loves his son, but she insists she don't want him anymore.

that fukkin bitch, i would fukkin smack her. i hate her.. i really do hate her.. with a passion. she broke my cousins heart and now my poor cousin has to go live in a small apt. he lost his home, his wife, everything. he's all alone now.. and she is rich. he made her.. he worked hard for that house, and now he has nothing..

boys, pls, don't ever get married. marriage sucks. women are all bitches. they only want money. I hate women.. i really do. and if you ever do get married... PRE NUP.. don't trust any woman..

How much your cousin worthed 20 years ago when you told him to do the prenup?

flyingillini · 08-19-09, 12:46 PM

I am never going to get married, that is one of the problems I am having right now with my current girlfriend. She wants to settle down and I refuse..I get sick of the girl I am with in a few years anyway.. If I did which isn't going to happen, I would make sure they sign a prenup.. 700k for a very nice house Nicky? Where? Not around here...

Nicky Santoro · 08-19-09, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

How much your cousin worthed 20 years ago when you told him to do the prenup?

not much. he had just started his own company.. he probably had 50k to his name. but since, he bought a house and he has worked long hrs to pay it all off and saved money for the family..

now she said she don't love him anymore and she is now going to be filthy rich.. this bitch had nothing 20 yrs ago.. she lived in a basement with 4 cats and was a hairdresser. now she will be living the life with my cousins money.. she will take that money and bring some young guy with her to mexico and travel with him, with his money..

my poor cousin now wants to die and has nothing else to live for..

I really hate women..boys, make sure you never get married.. live with them, treat them like a wife, but do NOT marry them, or you are fukked..

my notary told me he sees 30 cases like these alone every week..

flyingillini · 08-19-09, 12:53 PM

Nicky, I prefer to even be alone to be honest with you. I like having a girlfriend but the shit gets old... I am over it.

pavyracer · 08-19-09, 12:56 PM

If your cousin started with 50K in his 20's and now he is worth 800K in his 40's why can't he start over again with 400K and worth 800K in his 50's. If he made it with 50K younger he can make it with 400K older and even be more succesful as single.

Nicky Santoro · 08-19-09, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

Nicky, I prefer to even be alone to be honest with you. I like having a girlfriend but the shit gets old... I am over it.

flyer,

i swear to GOD, there are many times i say to myself, i miss the days of being alone.. you get to do what you want, no hassles, no one to tell you what to do.. you sleep when you want, wake up when you want.. eat when and what you want.. and the house is peaceful.. no fighting, no arguing.. everything is yours and you are the king of your castle..

women really are a lot of trouble.. there is no such thing as a perfect relationship.. they all have their problems. its not always perfect at the santoro residence, trust me.

PuckOff · 08-19-09, 12:58 PM

Nicky,
There's always a post-nuptial agreement........................ postnupagreement.com lol

Not sure if they are legal or not, but apparently they are becoming more popular.

DwightShrute · 08-19-09, 12:59 PM

Reject a woman and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind – also, weak arms.

Nicky Santoro · 08-19-09, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

If your cousin started with 50K in his 20's and now he is worth 800K in his 40's why can't he start over again with 400K and worth 800K in his 50's. If he made it with 50K younger he can make it with 400K older and even be more succesful as single.

his business is no longer what it was. he'd be lucky to make 60k a yr now..he has to live in a 1 bedroom apt instead of a nice 7 bedroom house.. he lost that too.. plus, you think he wants to give her now 700k in all? she took him for everything.. he does not want to give her all that, plus she goes spends his money on some new guy.. the poor kid wants to die, no joke..

PuckOff · 08-19-09, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Rich Boy

Sad story nicky... People should just be together without getting married.

I knew this one girl in my class a few years ago, her parents werent married and when things went south they just split up, no legal bs, no court dates, nothing. It was very simple.

Well I know in Canada that after 6 months living together that you are considered common law married AND she can take half of what you have/own. All marriages in my mind should come with an automatic pre-nup.

Nickelicious · 08-19-09, 01:02 PM

Suicide is so dumb. If you're willing to off yourself because a relationship went bad, then you probably should because you have no spine to begin with. Nicky, if your cousin had any balls he'd pull himself up by his bootstraps and remake his life, which has a lo-o-o-o-ng way to go if he wants it.

And remember this: after divorce, besides his support payments, any money he makes, any property he buys, any business he opens, they will all be HIS, 100%. Hell, you say she only got half of his accounts and house anyway, goddamn he has plenty of capital (what, close to 3/4 of a million?) to build a new fortune.

Tell him to get over it and grow some fukkin' balls.

pavyracer · 08-19-09, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

his business is no longer what it was. he'd be lucky to make 60k a yr now..he has to live in a 1 bedroom apt instead of a nice 7 bedroom house.. he lost that too.. plus, you think he wants to give her now 700k in all? she took him for everything.. he does not want to give her all that, plus she goes spends his money on some new guy.. the poor kid wants to die, no joke..

This is the reason she doesn't love him anymore. His business is failing and she knows he won't be bringing good money anymore. Women are not stupid. And why did he buy a 7 bedroom house if he only has one son? This means he is living above his means.

PuckOff · 08-19-09, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

all i say is this.. IF you meet a woman and you really do fall in love with her.. do what everyone always advises me.. and that is DO NOT GET MARRIED..

i say just do everything besides that piece of paper.. even my notary told me this 2 weeks ago. he said nicky, live with her, love her, treat her like a wife, spoil her, care for her.. but nicky, DO NOT MARRY HER.. that's it.. that's all..

he told me, if you officially marry her OR have a kid with her, that's it.. you're stuck for life..he said as long as you don't marry her and just be like a married couple and live together, then she can never have your house, or your bank accts.

so i say this.. is it really worth it all this just for that piece of paper?? living with someone and being married is no difference, except everything is yours this way.. not hers..

I think your "notary" gave you inaccurate info unless Quebec does not recognize common law marriages.

You better look into this Nicky. I'm being serious buddy.

Nicky Santoro · 08-19-09, 01:09 PM

nicky

you are right, but he really loved her too..and he is lost without his family.

paver,

he was making the big bucks back then and he started to buy a house and all sorts of nice stuff. but now his business is not good anymore.

pucker,

you better be joking about saying if you live with a girl for 6 months, then she gets half.. i just went to see 2 notaries and they both told me the same thing. they said do NOT get married OR have a child and you have nothing to worry about if you live with her only.. and we are both from canada..

Nickelicious · 08-19-09, 01:12 PM

Take Puck seriously, Nicky. Don't count on a notary for this information. Research Canadian common law marriage laws for yourself and then consult with an attorney. Money well invested, believe me.

RealSlimShady · 08-19-09, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

his business is no longer what it was. he'd be lucky to make 60k a yr now..he has to live in a 1 bedroom apt instead of a nice 7 bedroom house.. he lost that too.. plus, you think he wants to give her now 700k in all? she took him for everything.. he does not want to give her all that, plus she goes spends his money on some new guy.. the poor kid wants to die, no joke..

Women know these things. She sold him at the top and cashed out.

Nickelicious · 08-19-09, 01:14 PM

From Wikipedia:

Canada

In Canada, the legal definition and regulation of common-law marriage fall under provincial jurisdiction. A couple must meet the requirements of their province's Marriage Act for their common-law marriage to be legally recognized.

According to the Canada Revenue Agency, as of 2007, a common-law relationship is true if at least one of the following applies:

a) the couple have been living in a conjugal relationship for at least 12 continuous months;

b) the couple are parents of a child by birth or adoption; or

c) one of the couple has custody and control of the child (or had custody and control immediately before the child turned 19 years of age) and the child is wholly dependent on that person for support.

In many cases common-law couples have the same rights as married couples under federal law. Various federal laws include "common-law status," which automatically takes effect once two people (of any gender) have lived together in a conjugal relationship for five full years. Common-law partners may be eligible for various federal government spousal benefits. As family law varies between provinces, there are differences between the provinces regarding the recognition of common-law marriage.

FreeFall · 08-19-09, 01:16 PM

You guys are neglecting the financial benefits of being married. I had an immigrant friend who could've saved 250k from dental school had he been married to a local citizen. This gov prides marriage and gives you fiscal reward for it.

Granted I'm all about a pre-nup. What we earn together can be ours, but what we earn separately is not ours. Simple enough.

PuckOff · 08-19-09, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

pucker,

you better be joking about saying if you live with a girl for 6 months, then she gets half.. i just went to see 2 notaries and they both told me the same thing. they said do NOT get married OR have a child and you have nothing to worry about if you live with her only.. and we are both from canada..

Nicky my good friend. I am being dead serious. When you file a tax return it asks if you are living common law. BE careful when filing tax returns. Never say you are living common law for any kind of exemptions.

I'm married and I can honestly say that my wife isn't the person who I once dated.

Women are evil!!!

My sister is evil. Hell even my own mother is a friggin trouble maker, but at the end of the day she's still my mother so I have to let things slide and just keep a safe and respectable distance.

I too like my own free time and space, but when you have a wife and children then it's hard to have your old life back unless you go on a solo vacation or the wife and kids go away for the weekend. All marriages should come with an automatic pre-nup. It should be law. If marriages came with an automatic pre-nup then I bet there would be less marriages and the divorce rate would be much lower because the evil type of gold digging women would be better off married than divorced with nothing.

Anyways Nicky you should do some searching around for common law marriage laws in Quebec. I'm serious buddy!!

PuckOff · 08-19-09, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

Take Puck seriously, Nicky. Don't count on a notary for this information. Research Canadian common law marriage laws for yourself and then consult with an attorney. Money well invested, believe me.

Excellent advice Nickelicious!!!