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  • reno cool
    SBR MVP
    • 07-02-08
    • 3567

    #36
    Originally posted by Chi_archie
    63% for 4 years could make you a millionare though

    not likely, unless you're betting 20k a game avg.
    bird bird da bird's da word
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    • durito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-03-06
      • 13173

      #37
      getting onethewhat to leave is worth way more than that

      big pressure on dave this year
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      • Chi_archie
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-22-08
        • 63172

        #38
        Originally posted by reno cool
        not likely, unless you're betting 20k a game avg.

        at 64%????

        nah more like 2-3 bets a day for 500 a game


        you'd be up a million in 4-5 years
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        • TheLock
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-06-08
          • 14427

          #39
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          Trust me if you have 5 nickles on each game every week and you start 2-3 or 1-4 it changes the whole psychology and your mental state. You will not understand unless you bet real money with your picks.

          I tend to agree with Pavy here VD but I will be rooting for you and watching your thread closely.

          Good luck pal.
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94383

            #40
            Dave I think your very emotional but I'm cheering on you big time cause otw leaving this site would be better for all of us. Hey otw why don't you pick your games in a separate thread and let's see how u do
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            • TPowell
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #41
              Dave, our prayers are with you son!!
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              • Shortstop
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 01-02-09
                • 27281

                #42
                Best of Luck David.
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                • Nicky Santoro
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-08-08
                  • 16103

                  #43
                  this thread is a fukkin joke.. and VD is a joke, too.. and he knows it.. first of all, it's ONLY 32 games.. gimme a freakin break.. i knew this girl 4 yrs ago that went a combined 27-3 in an NFL office pool sides and totals.. and this girl can't name you one player in NFL history, not even Joe Montana..

                  it's 32 games. anyone can be up units over that many games, my great grandmother can be up 22 units over 32 games.. it's almost a 50-50 shot here, including vig.. If it was 300 games, then VD would be a huge huge favorite to be down money, not 32 games..

                  also, we all know that dave is doing this for the attention. he thinks this way everyone is now going to be following him, which is why he is doing this. he's loving this. that's his dream taht people follow his NFL picks and what better way than this..
                  also, we all know that there ain't a chance in hell that onner is leaving this site if dave goes 17-15.. so why is VD doing this for?


                  onner, cancel this whole deal.. anyone can win over 32 games and we all know you wont leave.. this is your home here..
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                  • durito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-03-06
                    • 13173

                    #44
                    your statistical knowledge is unsurpassed nicky
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                    • TPowell
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-21-08
                      • 18842

                      #45
                      anddddddd we have Papa telling the young one to get out of the way
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                      • lakerboy
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-02-09
                        • 94383

                        #46
                        Nicky why are you so concerned about otw tell me please I am new here
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                        • Nicky Santoro
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-08-08
                          • 16103

                          #47
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          Nicky why are you so concerned about otw tell me please I am new here

                          all i said was this whole thing is a waste of time cause it's ONLY 32 games and Onner will NVER leave here in a million yrs if he loses.. so why bother.

                          that's it..
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                          • onthewhat
                            Restricted User
                            • 05-14-08
                            • 15411

                            #48
                            Nicky I asked this fat prick to contact me off site to wager but he wouldn't

                            Nicky this kid is supposedly betting money for the first time in his life. I think he will shit his pants after week 2 when he is 1-4 and -3.40 units...

                            Nicky how classic will it be when he loses? I am giving him a freeroll here...
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                            • Nicky Santoro
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-08-08
                              • 16103

                              #49
                              onner, i feel bad for this kid if he gambles real money. onner, remember his only bet he made for real money last year.. 200$ and i forget who he had. it was a thurs night game and his team was up 2 TD's late or something and they blew it on a backdoor cover by the other team.. he's a loser gambler.. i feel bad for him. i wish i was his bookie.
                              onner, make it 200 games, not 32 games.. anyone can win over 32 games.. anyone. even my great grandmother.. onner, make him include college football too and he's on.. try to make it at least 100 games.. even that's not much, but it's better for you..
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                              • BobHarvey
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-08-08
                                • 3987

                                #50
                                Good luck Dave.
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                                • onthewhat
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 05-14-08
                                  • 15411

                                  #51
                                  Nicky is right, I have gone 26-6 over a 30 game stretch before

                                  We are changing it to Vegas Daves record over all of his plays, not just 30, and I think he picks every game...that should give us a good sample size.

                                  Good idea Nicky, thanks.
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #52
                                    onthewhat backing out before the contest even starts

                                    classic
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                                    • VegasDave
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-03-07
                                      • 8056

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                      Trust me if you have 5 nickles on each game every week and you start 2-3 or 1-4 it changes the whole psychology and your mental state. You will not understand unless you bet real money with your picks.
                                      I don't bet above my means, so I'm not going to be betting more than what I'm comfortable with so I won't be affected by little slumps.

                                      I have a certain list of criteria. If a game matches those criteria, it gets played. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Takes my psychology/mental state out of it quite a bit when it's basically just running each pick down a checklist.

                                      But yeah, I won't be betting 5 nickels on anything. I don't have anywhere near that kind of bankroll.
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                                      • wtf
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-22-08
                                        • 12983

                                        #54
                                        why is everyone so hard on OTW?
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                                        • Nicky Santoro
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-08-08
                                          • 16103

                                          #55
                                          now you're talking onner. you'd be crazy to make this bet over 32 games.. it's a joke..

                                          let him do his 500+ bets like last year in NFL and NCAAF. and if he is up then, even i will quit sbr.. and i will, believe me.. and if he is not up, he has to make a vid saying he's a loser and can never win in gambling cause he's clueless.

                                          he has zero chance now to come up in the black.
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                                          • VegasDave
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-03-07
                                            • 8056

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by onthewhat
                                            Nicky is right, I have gone 26-6 over a 30 game stretch before

                                            We are changing it to Vegas Daves record over all of his plays, not just 30, and I think he picks every game...that should give us a good sample size.

                                            Good idea Nicky, thanks.
                                            That is COMPLETELY ridiculous. I pick every game just for the sake of my newsletter, there are some games I have no opinion on whatsoever. Of course I can't pick every single game ATS at +money, that's absurd.

                                            Like durito said, LOL that you are seriously backing out weeks before the season.
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82907

                                              #57
                                              If you are so sure about your 63% documented 4 year record why not make money with it? You can't be touting your excellent record but being afraid to risk a big chunk of money. That means you don't trust your own betting system and record.
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                                              • VegasDave
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-03-07
                                                • 8056

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by onthewhat
                                                Nicky I asked this fat prick to contact me off site to wager but he wouldn't

                                                Nicky this kid is supposedly betting money for the first time in his life. I think he will shit his pants after week 2 when he is 1-4 and -3.40 units...

                                                Nicky how classic will it be when he loses? I am giving him a freeroll here...
                                                ^Note that he makes this comment, but then wusses out when Nicky points out its a small sample size.

                                                This kid AGREED to my initial post and AGREED to minimum 32, and is now backing out.

                                                Once again proving his word is worth dirt .
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                                                • lakerboy
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-02-09
                                                  • 94383

                                                  #59
                                                  Wtf onner is a child and people here don't like his childish act
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                                                  • VegasDave
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-03-07
                                                    • 8056

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                    If you are so sure about your 63% documented 4 year record why not make money with it? You can't be touting your excellent record but being afraid to risk a big chunk of money. That means you don't trust your own betting system and record.
                                                    1. How am I touting?

                                                    2. Betting above your means or massive amounts of your bankroll so you get wiped out on a losing streak is completely stupid. Even if 63% is my true expected return on these (still too hard to say at only 143 plays), standard deviation alone I could still have a 1-9 or 2-8 run and get totally wiped out.

                                                    Your logic is stupid. Basically I'm not confident if I'm not willing to bet way over my means? Wow.
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                                                    • wtf
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-22-08
                                                      • 12983

                                                      #61
                                                      yes laker, but dont want to see him go away forever, he is entertaining
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                                                      • VegasDave
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-03-07
                                                        • 8056

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                        now you're talking onner. you'd be crazy to make this bet over 32 games.. it's a joke..

                                                        let him do his 500+ bets like last year in NFL and NCAAF. and if he is up then, even i will quit sbr.. and i will, believe me.. and if he is not up, he has to make a vid saying he's a loser and can never win in gambling cause he's clueless.

                                                        he has zero chance now to come up in the black.
                                                        Look, onthewhat never said anything about the full season. He believes I am such a shitty handicapper even my best bets will lose. Look.



                                                        Originally posted by onthewhat
                                                        SBR can ban me for good if you have a winning NFL season. Not your record picking every game, but your philosophy picks or whatever you decide to count towards it.
                                                        Now he's wussing out all of a sudden. Go figure.

                                                        He talks shit about how much he will **** everyone up at the bash, doesn't show.

                                                        He talks shit about how shitty SBR is and how he's leaving, stays.

                                                        He talks shit about how my best bets can't win, backs down.

                                                        It's pathetic.
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                                                        • lakerboy
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-02-09
                                                          • 94383

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by wtf
                                                          yes laker, but dont want to see him go away forever, he is entertaining
                                                          Well he will never leave sbr but if sbr dissapeared he would commit suicide and we would never know
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                                                          • onthewhat
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 05-14-08
                                                            • 15411

                                                            #64
                                                            I didn't know it was only 32 plays you dunce fukk.

                                                            100 plays minimum. Any sports. If you're up, I'll leave. Final offer nitwit.
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                                                            • durito
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-03-06
                                                              • 13173

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by wtf
                                                              why is everyone so hard on OTW?
                                                              why is otw so hard on vegas dave, he doesn't bother anyone?
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                                                              • durito
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-03-06
                                                                • 13173

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by onthewhat
                                                                I didn't know it was only 32 plays you dunce fukk.

                                                                100 plays minimum. Any sports. If you're up, I'll leave. Final offer nitwit.


                                                                can i have the same offer?
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                                                                • wtf
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                                  • 12983

                                                                  #67
                                                                  vd, be honest

                                                                  if you were betting real money like everyone else on this site, would you confine your picks to your best or philosophy selections?
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                                                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-08-08
                                                                    • 16103

                                                                    #68
                                                                    vd is a sneaky s.o.b.. he gave me an infraction for no reason.. but it's ok, i got some good payback on him.. he deserved it..

                                                                    people should watch this kid, he's sneaky..
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                                                                    • onthewhat
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 05-14-08
                                                                      • 15411

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by durito
                                                                      can i have the same offer?
                                                                      i've never seen you post 100 picks on here

                                                                      start posting your plays, tough guy
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                                                                      • wtf
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 08-22-08
                                                                        • 12983

                                                                        #70
                                                                        yes durito you have a point, VD is a great guy and huge value to sbr

                                                                        there must be something that does not meet the eye with this animosity from OTW towards VD
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