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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82907

    #1
    If SBR wants to be fair
    They should give weekly bans to all the posters admitting involvement in illegal gambling activities. It is not fair to just ban the bookie but leave the bettors taking shots unpunished. Unless the SBR policy is place your illegal bets but if we catch the bookie you are safe. This will give a stern warning to all people attempting to place bets in forum and will also help reduce this type of activities from happening if both the bettor and bookie are punished simultaneously.
  • PAPSMEAR
    SBR MVP
    • 02-13-09
    • 2581

    #2
    Love your passion Pav
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    • blittydeuce
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-11-08
      • 5572

      #3
      God Bless You Pavy
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      • SBR_John
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-12-05
        • 16471

        #4
        Thats pretty harsh. In the latest case I think they tried to get the participants to stop and used the ban button as the option of very last resort. Next time the military option, the ban button, should be considered earlier.
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82907

          #5
          Since a a weekly ban is harsh what is an appropriate method of punishment for the offenders that is not a slap on the wrist?
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          • AMBlai01
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-16-08
            • 5882

            #6
            That would mean a weekly ban for everyone that is living in th U.S. It is technically illegal for all of to play an offshore book....is it not?
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            • MartinBlank
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-20-08
              • 8382

              #7
              Originally posted by AMBlai01
              That would mean a weekly ban for everyone that is living in th U.S. It is technically illegal for all of to play an offshore book....is it not?
              Not technically.

              It is illegal to fund an offshore book, actually that isn't true either...it is illegal for US Banks to process the funding of an offshore book (UIGEA).

              It is illegal to book action though.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82907

                #8
                Originally posted by AMBlai01
                That would mean a weekly ban for everyone that is living in th U.S. It is technically illegal for all of to play an offshore book....is it not?
                It's illegal to use SBR's utilities to solicitate booking. You can click the banners of sponsors to sign up for a book but it is illegal for a non-sponsor that is operating in the US to contact business using SBR's utilities. This is why the SBR servers are located in Costa Rica and not in the US. If the feds want to go after SBR and they can prove a New York based booking operation was conducting business with US based customers using SBR's utilities (PM, chat, etc) SBR will be in big doodoo.
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                • Mudcat
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-21-05
                  • 9287

                  #9
                  I would say pavy is right about what would be fair. And if I am remembering correctly, SBR agrees. I read something about a zero tolerance policy regarding betting between posters. I don't recall any distinction being made between types of bets, or about the person on one side of a bet being more guilty than the person on the other.

                  Looks like, as with almost every zero tolerance policy in the history of civilization, principles quickly becomes compromised and the teeth are removed. Would anyone really expect SBR to start banning bunches of its busiest posters?

                  When fairness and principle comes into conflict with the need for posting on the forum, it is tricky math.
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                  • SBR_John
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-12-05
                    • 16471

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mudcat
                    I would say pavy is right about what would be fair. And if I am remembering correctly, SBR agrees. I read something about a zero tolerance policy regarding betting between posters. I don't recall any distinction being made between types of bets, or about the person on one side of a bet being more guilty than the person on the other.

                    Looks like, as with almost every zero tolerance policy in the history of civilization, principles quickly becomes compromised and the teeth are removed. Would anyone really expect SBR to start banning bunches of its busiest posters?

                    When fairness and principle comes into conflict with the need for posting on the forum, it is tricky math.
                    Probably close to the mark. In this kind of community you need to give those involved more than ample warnings and respect. Like a country club and they are country club members. Its fair to use that example and say it would be better for the country club to not have to boot a member. That is obviously bad for business.

                    However you can only ask politely so many times. If a memeber simply refueses to follow the terms of the club then they will eventually be asked to leave. So zero tolerance means it will not be tolerated, it doesnt mean that everyone connected or suspected is instantly banned.
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                    • G's pks
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-01-09
                      • 22251

                      #11
                      SBR has a certain level of responsibility to keep this from being a circus...he was warned kept doing it and if Zboiz or any of the others are telling the truth... (I do not know) sounds like he was a stiff too. Either way tried to take advantage of SBR, and its members...to bad for him..sounds like greed to me.
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                      • tacomax
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 9619

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MartinBlank
                        It is illegal to book action though.
                        $50 says you're wrong.
                        Originally posted by pags11
                        SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                        Originally posted by BuddyBear
                        I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                        Originally posted by curious
                        taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                        • yisman
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-01-08
                          • 75682

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          Since a a weekly ban is harsh what is an appropriate method of punishment for the offenders that is not a slap on the wrist?
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                          • MartinBlank
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-20-08
                            • 8382

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tacomax
                            $50 says you're wrong.
                            Well played Taco.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Paver stay out of this, your in over your head and this is WAY bigger than you could ever imagine.
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82907

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                Paver stay out of this, your in over your head and this is WAY bigger than you could ever imagine.
                                How can I stay out when I'm the epicenter of the whole thing? Have you lost your mind baldy?
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                                • Chi_archie
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-22-08
                                  • 63172

                                  #17
                                  I'm way involved.

                                  since march or so

                                  I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                  I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                  Let's get some light on this bitch
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                                  • Bread
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-16-08
                                    • 23726

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                    I'm way involved.

                                    since march or so

                                    I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                    I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                    Let's get some light on this bitch

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                                    • tacomax
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 9619

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                      I'm way involved.

                                      since march or so

                                      I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                      I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                      Let's get some light on this bitch
                                      Originally posted by pags11
                                      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                      Originally posted by curious
                                      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                      • betplom
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-20-06
                                        • 13444

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                        I'm way involved.

                                        since march or so

                                        I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                        I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                        Let's get some light on this bitch
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                                        • sickler
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-05-08
                                          • 15006

                                          #21
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                                          • SBR_John
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-12-05
                                            • 16471

                                            #22
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                                            • BadNina
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-27-07
                                              • 10491

                                              #23
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                                              • Shortstop
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 01-02-09
                                                • 27281

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                I'm way involved.

                                                since march or so

                                                I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                                I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                                Let's get some light on this bitch

                                                Comment
                                                • tacomax
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 9619

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                  I'm way involved.

                                                  since march or so

                                                  I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                                  I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                                  Let's get some light on this bitch
                                                  Originally posted by pags11
                                                  SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                  Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                  I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                  Originally posted by curious
                                                  taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                                  • reno cool
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-02-08
                                                    • 3567

                                                    #26
                                                    Does all this go down in chat? Because I know nothing of this. (Except that Tony offers 20 cent sides according to SBR Odds.)
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                                                    • englishmike
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-19-08
                                                      • 5279

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                      I'm way involved.

                                                      since march or so

                                                      I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                                      I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                                      Let's get some light on this bitch
                                                      All this secrecy and suspense, and for what? You owe Soprano $1700 and Onthewhat $600, and have actively encouraged people to blacken Sopranos name in an attempt to stiff him. What part of the 'full story' did I miss or get wrong?

                                                      And you're right, it's not news, nor does anybody care but let's at least make sure they know the truth right? That's why you're desperate to give the 'full story' right?
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                                                      • tacomax
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 9619

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pags11
                                                        SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                        Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                        I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                        Originally posted by curious
                                                        taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                                        • tacomax
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 9619

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pags11
                                                          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                          Originally posted by curious
                                                          taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                                          • unknown Gambler
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-11-08
                                                            • 758

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by englishmike
                                                            All this secrecy and suspense, and for what? You owe Soprano $1700 and Onthewhat $600, and have actively encouraged people to blacken Sopranos name in an attempt to stiff him. What part of the 'full story' did I miss or get wrong?

                                                            And you're right, it's not news, nor does anybody care but let's at least make sure they know the truth right? That's why you're desperate to give the 'full story' right?

                                                            Mike please show some respect to one of the biggest real estate guys in the city of Chicago.

                                                            MR Real Estate tycoon, needs about 48 hours to figure out which way hes going to take this blood bath he finds himself in.
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                                                            • Shortstop
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 01-02-09
                                                              • 27281

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                              I'm way involved.

                                                              since march or so

                                                              I'll be giving my full story late tonight, or tomorrow morn. No One cares though..... this ain't news.... there is sports and real life going on out there after all

                                                              I was breaking the rules, before John decided to make a super hard ass post..... so if i'm guilty of breaking them and worthy of a ban, so be it..... but honestly???? c'mon


                                                              Let's get some light on this bitch

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                                                              • Bread
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-16-08
                                                                • 23726

                                                                #32
                                                                Just when you think you've seen it all. Wow.

                                                                Pitiful.
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                                                                • wtf
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-22-08
                                                                  • 12983

                                                                  #33
                                                                  chi said in another thread he does not owe T any money

                                                                  so what is it chi?

                                                                  and where are all these people that T supposedly stiffed per casper, not one person has stepped forward
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Is Robyn involved ?
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                                                                    • Robyn
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-05-08
                                                                      • 9681

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Of course, JJ. I am Keyser Söze.

                                                                      And the plot thickens.
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