McNair left no will for family

Fishhead · 07-16-09, 10:38 AM

I think many of us have no wills..........stupid of us.

oiler · 07-16-09, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by CrazyLou

His wife had to file an emergency petition in Nashville court asking that she be allowed to oversee his estate, which was granted. She has 60 days to file an inventory of the estate.

What's really sad is that, she named herself and her two sons with McNair as the heirs, but excluded his other two sons from a previous marriage.

Way to go, Steve.

well he was a great football player but seems like he was a piece of shit for a man

SBR Lou · 07-16-09, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

I think many of us have no wills..........stupid of us.

Probably true, anyone with a relatively significant estate and children should have one in place.

AMBlai01 · 07-16-09, 10:43 AM

its so easily overlooked and something that should be taken care of because you never know. I am 26 years old and I am having something drawn up.....

lakerboy · 07-16-09, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by oiler

well he was a great football player but seems like he was a piece of shit for a man

exactly that he was. I just cant understand how stupid his wife was though. how the heck did she not know any of the shit he was doing. unreal

VegasDave · 07-16-09, 10:47 AM

Hindsight is pretty fvcking 20/20, gotta say you are a bit off base here Lou.

The guy was an extremely healthy 36-year-old, death shouldn't have been even remotely on his mind.

Yeah, of course in a perfect world with as much money as he had he would have set this stuff up; but I'm sure he thought he had plenty of time.

Setting up a will is a very morbid thing to do, no matter how responsible it is it makes you face your mortality, and it is uncomfortable. At 36, it sure as hell won't be on my mind either, even if I do have kids by then.

Then if I die an untimely death you can start a thread about what a jerk I was

oiler · 07-16-09, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by CrazyLou

Probably true, anyone with a relatively significant estate and children should have one in place.

i guess he threw alot of interceptions in his life but the last one he threw killed his ass.i guess his girlfriend seen another women coming out of his condo and figured it was another girlfriend...but my question is...how did she know it wasnt for his roommate?

KingRevolver · 07-16-09, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

its so easily overlooked and something that should be taken care of because you never know. I am 26 years old and I am having something drawn up.....

What are you leaving behind - your condoms?

lakerboy · 07-16-09, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Hindsight is pretty fvcking 20/20, gotta say you are a bit off base here Lou.

The guy was an extremely healthy 36-year-old, death shouldn't have been even remotely on his mind.

Yeah, of course in a perfect world with as much money as he had he would have set this stuff up; but I'm sure he thought he had plenty of time.

Setting up a will is a very morbid thing to do, no matter how responsible it is it makes you face your mortality, and it is uncomfortable. At 36, it sure as hell won't be on my mind either, even if I do have kids by then.

Then if I die an untimely death you can start a thread about what a jerk I was

nah lou is right on the mark- you should have your will done by 36. Mcnair was selfish and now his 2 sons are going to pay.

lakerboy · 07-16-09, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by KingRevolver

What are you leaving behind - your condoms?

no empty bottles for deposit refunds

oiler · 07-16-09, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by KingRevolver

What are you leaving behind - your condoms?

probably used condoms lol

Bread · 07-16-09, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Hindsight is pretty fvcking 20/20, gotta say you are a bit off base here Lou.

The guy was an extremely healthy 36-year-old, death shouldn't have been even remotely on his mind.

Yeah, of course in a perfect world with as much money as he had he would have set this stuff up; but I'm sure he thought he had plenty of time.

Setting up a will is a very morbid thing to do, no matter how responsible it is it makes you face your mortality, and it is uncomfortable. At 36, it sure as hell won't be on my mind either, even if I do have kids by then.

Then if I die an untimely death you can start a thread about what a jerk I was

Why wait til then??

oiler · 07-16-09, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Bread

Why wait til then??

he was my favorite player but as a human being he was a piece of shit.i thought he would have more class then this

peeiempee · 07-16-09, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Hindsight is pretty fvcking 20/20, gotta say you are a bit off base here Lou.

The guy was an extremely healthy 36-year-old, death shouldn't have been even remotely on his mind.

Yeah, of course in a perfect world with as much money as he had he would have set this stuff up; but I'm sure he thought he had plenty of time.

Setting up a will is a very morbid thing to do, no matter how responsible it is it makes you face your mortality, and it is uncomfortable. At 36, it sure as hell won't be on my mind either, even if I do have kids by then.

Then if I die an untimely death you can start a thread about what a jerk I was

Originally posted by lakerboy

nah lou is right on the mark- you should have your will done by 36. Mcnair was selfish and now his 2 sons are going to pay.

I agree. Anytime you have a significant amount of assets and kids and other family members hidden in the woodworks you have to have a will.

VegasDave · 07-16-09, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

nah lou is right on the mark- you should have your will done by 36. Mcnair was selfish and now his 2 sons are going to pay.

Sure, you SHOULD have your will done as soon as you have any assets to your name.

But fvck, are you guys really calling a deceased person selfish because he didn't predict that he would die at 36 years old?

You can say it is unfortunate, sure, but Lou's "Way to go, Steve" I think is a bit over the top. Criticize him for cheating on his wife all you want, but for not having his will in place at 36? That's just a little lack of foresight, not really a "bad person" thing.

oiler · 07-16-09, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Sure, you SHOULD have your will done as soon as you have any assets to your name.

But fvck, are you guys really calling a deceased person selfish because he didn't predict that he would die at 36 years old?

You can say it is unfortunate, sure, but Lou's "Way to go, Steve" I think is a bit over the top. Criticize him for cheating on his wife all you want, but for not having his will in place at 36? That's just a little lack of foresight, not really a "bad person" thing.

its not like he knew the girlfriend would go ballistic and shoot his ass lol

VegasDave · 07-16-09, 11:00 AM

You should all go double check to make sure your parents had their wills made out at 36 years old if you are going to rip Steve for not doing so and "not thinking about his kids".

pavyracer · 07-16-09, 11:06 AM

Most football players are dumb because if they were smart they wouldn't be playing football.

Bread · 07-16-09, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

You should all go double check to make sure your parents had their wills made out at 36 years old if you are going to rip Steve for not doing so and "not thinking about his kids".

Ouch! Hit em where it hurts Davey!

jjgold · 07-16-09, 11:08 AM

Guys he was just like most athletes

dumb
no sexual control
babies from at least 5 moms
booze

SBR Lou · 07-16-09, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

You should all go double check to make sure your parents had their wills made out at 36 years old if you are going to rip Steve for not doing so and "not thinking about his kids".

Most middle class folks with families have life insurance, but if they are living paycheck to paycheck or not much above, the need for a will is clearly not as significant as a professional athlete, or anyone with a significant estate.

McNair left behind two sons that are going to have to fight for a piece of the pie, he should have had the presence of mind to have them taken care of and not leave it up to his wife.

It just doesn't surprise me that someone who clearly made a terrible decision would have also had an oversight like this.

lakerboy · 07-16-09, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Sure, you SHOULD have your will done as soon as you have any assets to your name.

But fvck, are you guys really calling a deceased person selfish because he didn't predict that he would die at 36 years old?

You can say it is unfortunate, sure, but Lou's "Way to go, Steve" I think is a bit over the top. Criticize him for cheating on his wife all you want, but for not having his will in place at 36? That's just a little lack of foresight, not really a "bad person" thing.

You know what dave you come accross as a guy who always seems to argue for no reason. My parents had their wills done when they were 29. I had mine done when i was 31 a few years ago. Get with the times kid. 36 years old isnt a baby anymore dave. Ask any lawyer when it is a good time to get your will done and he wont give your answer- he couldnt predict his death at 36. Guy get a clue!! YOu never know when your going to die my friend. Lou was right on the mark and you came in here and said he was wrong cause you dont have a will.

bettman · 07-16-09, 11:15 AM

I think he was going to break it off with her cause he wasnt gonna eff her anymore and she went Stewy on him. Its sad.... but when he was playing in the league he should of had some type of draft that gave certain amount to his kids acc.

pavyracer · 07-16-09, 11:16 AM

I have no will. I am so much in debt my creditors can fight for my debts between them when I meet St. Peter.

VegasDave · 07-16-09, 11:24 AM

Alright, I stand corrected. Apologize for defending the deceased.

Fvck McNair!

robzilla · 07-16-09, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by CrazyLou

His wife had to file an emergency petition in Nashville court asking that she be allowed to oversee his estate, which was granted. She has 60 days to file an inventory of the estate.

What's really sad is that, she named herself and her two sons with McNair as the heirs, but excluded his other two sons from a previous marriage.

Way to go, Steve.

He is an idiot for dying intestate. I took estate law last year.
just because those other 2 kids arent heirs doesnt mean his assets wont be distributed equally among his kids. The mother of the other 2 kids will contact the executor (i dont know if its the same thing in the US) and if they dont get 1/4 of the money they can file a civil suit when they get older or the guardian will sue.

SBR Lou · 07-16-09, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

He is an idiot for dying intestate. I took estate law last year.
just because those other 2 kids arent heirs doesnt mean his assets wont be distributed equally among his kids. The mother of the other 2 kids will contact the executor (i dont know if its the same thing in the US) and if they dont get 1/4 of the money they can file a civil suit when they get older or the guardian will sue.

Right, I hope they have the presence of mind to go ahead and follow up on this right away, but just something that "could" have already been taken care of. You don't know if these other McNair's are aware of their rights.

AMBlai01 · 07-16-09, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Hindsight is pretty fvcking 20/20, gotta say you are a bit off base here Lou.

The guy was an extremely healthy 36-year-old, death shouldn't have been even remotely on his mind.

Yeah, of course in a perfect world with as much money as he had he would have set this stuff up; but I'm sure he thought he had plenty of time.

Setting up a will is a very morbid thing to do, no matter how responsible it is it makes you face your mortality, and it is uncomfortable. At 36, it sure as hell won't be on my mind either, even if I do have kids by then.

Then if I die an untimely death you can start a thread about what a jerk I was

Dave...I couldn't disagree with you more on this topic. Everyone with assets should have a will made up. Its not a morbid thing to do its a SMART thing to do. As scary as it is to think about....shit happens and people die. Yes it sucks but it is reality...100%. Sometimes it is completely out of our control and it is something that needs to be thought of.

Like I said...I am 26 years old and I am having one drawn up because I have a house, Bills, a car, investments, a life insurance policy and so on.

No most of our parents probably had their will set up when they were 36 but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have. Society has evolved and we can learn from past generations and other people. Most people used to write their will WHILE they were on their death bed should we do that practice too? I think that is even worse because who knows what type of mental state you are in at that time.

Just some food for thought.....everyone go get your wills made up.

Willie Bee · 07-16-09, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

...are you guys really calling a deceased person selfish because he didn't predict that he would die at 36 years old? ... Criticize him for cheating on his wife all you want, but for not having his will in place at 36? That's just a little lack of foresight, not really a "bad person" thing.

I don't think selfish is the right word here. Irresponsible would be the word I would use.

I've had a will since I was 25; if not for some family business I probably wouldn't have had one that early. But I've since updated/amended it a few times. If you own any property, if you're due to own any property through a family estate should your parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts pass away, if you own any stock or have any investments worth $1,000 or more, and especially if you have a wife and kids, you should have a will. Period.

VegasDave · 07-16-09, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

Dave...I couldn't disagree with you more on this topic. Everyone with assets should have a will made up. Its not a morbid thing to do its a SMART thing to do. As scary as it is to think about....shit happens and people die. Yes it sucks but it is reality...100%. Sometimes it is completely out of our control and it is something that needs to be thought of.

Like I said...I am 26 years old and I am having one drawn up because I have a house, Bills, a car, investments, a life insurance policy and so on.

No most of our parents probably had their will set up when they were 36 but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have. Society has evolved and we can learn from past generations and other people. Most people used to write their will WHILE they were on their death bed should we do that practice too? I think that is even worse because who knows what type of mental state you are in at that time.

Just some food for thought.....everyone go get your wills made up.

Like I said, you SHOULD have your will made out as soon as you have assets to your name.

I just don't think that not doing so means that you are a bad person that doesn't care about the well being of your family. Lacking foresight? Not covering all your bases? Absolutely.

But I would chalk it up to him probably not even thinking about his death and figuring he'd be around to take care of his kids.

My parents just put together their wills about five years ago. Had they died before that, I don't think I would have come to the conclusion that they didn't love me; it would have just been something that they'd overlooked.

It sucks that he overlooked it, and it would have definitely been better if he hadn't... its just a little too high-and-mighty for my liking to pass judgment on something like this.

But suit yourselves.

aszzzbrokerman · 07-16-09, 12:36 PM

This forum is full of idiots. Entertaining idiots. But, idiots none the less. I hope that when you die, you gambling debts are discovered and highly publicized just as your kids are having trouble borrowing enough money to go to college. Then people who never knew you can call you a piece of shit degenerate. It won't mean a damn thing but it would be poetic justice.

oiler · 07-16-09, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by aszzzbrokerman

this forum is full of idiots. Entertaining idiots. But, idiots none the less. I hope that when you die, you gambling debts are discovered and highly publicized just as your kids are having trouble borrowing enough money to go to college. Then people who never knew you can call you a piece of shit degenerate. It won't mean a damn thing but it would be poetic justice.

so u mean to tell me you dont think he did anything wrong to his family.if thats what your saying then i guess im an idiot because he put them in a position his wife knew nothing about and how will shw explain that to her kids.that daddy was a cheating,no good,husband

Deuce · 07-16-09, 12:52 PM

Wills go through probate court and are public. Get a Revocable Living Trust and save your family troubles.

flyingillini · 07-16-09, 12:54 PM

I have no kids and never going to have any.. I have a will written up, I got one as soon as I had assets and something of value. When I go I don't want the State taking over, I left things to my family.