[stevenash]

everyone hates bryce harper outside washington.. is it the hair? is it because he's mormon? is it becaue he's better looking than u?

Is it because he's an idiot, is it he because he's immature, is it he's over hyped..............

[lunchbawks]

bryce is not even 20 years old and starts for the nats.. stating the obvious here but that's phukin impressive

[stevenash]

Trout is 20, starts for the Angels. Stating the obvious here but that's phuckin impressive.
Continuing to state the obvious, Harper is hitting .273, 8 homers, 25 RBI's.
I'm supposed to genuflect to that?

Yet, too many people say Harper's the best kid in the game.

I get it, for whatever reason you don't like me, boo-hoo, but name one thing Harper does, that Trout does not?

[lunchbawks]

lots of upside to harper

better fielder
bats lefthanded
can play every position including catcher

these games don't really matter though, both teams will be in playoffs this fall.. then we'll see who's who

[InTheDrink]

Harper just unleashed a fawkin cannon to the plate
Announcers joked that it came across the plate at 93mph

[stevenash]

Harper just unleashed a fawkin cannon to the plate
Announcers joked that it came across the plate at 93mph

From shallow center. I'm not worthy.

[MexicanStallion]

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB 2011 19 LAA AL 40 135 123 20 27 6 0 5 16 4 0 9 30 .220 .281 .390 .672 88 48 2 2 0 1 0

Mike Trout's First Stint in the Big Leagues.

[stevenash]

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB 2011 19 LAA AL 40 135 123 20 27 6 0 5 16 4 0 9 30 .220 .281 .390 .672 88 48 2 2 0 1 0

Mike Trout's First Stint in the Big Leagues.

Another one that think's Harper is the better all around player.

[InTheDrink]

From shallow center. I'm not worthy.

Who cares? It was a rifle and was one way to answer your question

[MexicanStallion]

Another one that think's Harper is the better all around player.

Actually you are incorrect. I think Trout is better, but I'm not saying he is worlds better like you are. Trout can struggle too.

[easyliving]

Trout will be AL MVP Harper will be NL ROY the two are not even in the same category. Trout is a complete player. Pitchers will eventually solve Harper and he will be a decent player at best. There is no comparison to make.

[stevenash]

Actually you are incorrect. I think Trout is better, but I'm not saying he is worlds better like you are. Trout can struggle too.

Fair enough

[You mad bro]

trout right now is a better player than harper .. who cares ???? both of them are 20 and under .. both have upside ...


trout is faster and right now is a better hitter ... more speed to cover more ground in the outfield
harper has a better arm but then again hes only 19


both kids want to play for the yankees in the near future also

[stevenash]

both kids want to play for the yankees in the near future also

Trout was close to being a Yankee.
Trout was in that *loaded* 2009 amateur draft.

Steven Strasberg was the overall number 1 pick that draft.

Dustin Ackley (who is on his way to an outstanding career himself at 2B) was drafted #2 round 1 by the Mariners.

Zack Wheeler went 6th in round 1. Giants drafted him, now a Met, knocking on the MLB door, was on the Futures team.

Mike Minor, who is in the Brave rotation now, went #7 in the draft

Mike Leake, who is in the Red rotation now, went #8.

Jacob Turner (who Mike Trout lit up like a Christmas tree last night) starts for the Tigers, was the overall #9 pick in 2009 draft.

Drew Storen, the lights out Nationals closer (who is coming off DL this week) went #10.

Aaron Crow, who already is in his second season with KC, sets up Broxton out of the pen, is dependable in late innings, already has over 100 innings in MLB, was the #11 pick. Like I said, his relief numbers so far are sound.

Alex White, who even though is clearly not a MLB pitcher yet, (look at his numbers this year for the Rockies) is in the Colorado rotation.
He's getting rocked in the National League, went #15

...... which bring us to the Mike Trout story.

L.A. Angels owned #24 pick.
NYY Yanks owned #25 pick.
NYY shipped over #25 to LAA as compensation for signing Teixeira.

Yanks are salivating that Trout has slid to the 20's in the first round. Cashman, Oppenheimer and super scout Gene Michael all have woodies for the local NJ high school phenom.

24th pick, LAA selects some West Coast HS hot shot Grichuck, who plays outfield.
Cashman is ready to bust a nut, nobody, I mean, nobody selects back to back outfielders in the draft, especially first round.
Moreno and the rest of the Angel brass get wind that NYY will pounce on Trout, LAA got the OF they wanted in Grichuck, did not want Trout (wanted a pitcher at 25) got wind of NYY intentions, and drafted Trout out of spite to stick it to Brian Cashman.

The rest is history.............

Know this, when it is all said and done, and there is nothing left to say or do, that 2009 draft will go down as the greatest draft in MLB history

[Rookie-Capper]

right now trout is better than everybody

[Chi_archie]

Harper coming on

I didn't think this guy would last the season without getting sent back down

he's no trout at this point, but you know he'll be something special in the next 6 years

[PaperTrail07]

yeah let not even talk about Todd Frazier

[PaperTrail07]

they are all top talents but obv Trout is looking better....Trout is a stud and Harper is a Phenom starting at 19 like that....

[Boner_18]

Trout is better due to the juice. Harper can't be on it b/c he is a God fearing Mormon. Case closed.

[Chi_archie]

yeah Harper on Juice would be a little faster. I think his dad will get him on something this off season

[Mantle7]

Honestly im a fan of both. There's no comparison who's better though. Trouts the Rookie of the year and possibly athe m.v.p. Harper is kind of a head case and he can slump pretty hard. He throws tantrums, breaks bats, slams his helmet which is pretty ironic because those are all signs of a guy being on the sauce. Trouts alwaysgrinning ear to ear, never loses his composure.

WIth all that being said there's one Thing that definitively makes Trout better. Harper's walkout song for awhile was a Justin Bieber song. Case closed

[Mantle7]

Harper did hit a bomb tonight in Miami that was upper deck 6 rows back. It was one of the hardest hits balls I've ever seen in my life.

[Bswitz32]

Trout is a stud now but I think in a few years Harper will pass him

[lunchbawks]

trout will be watching harper hit homers in the playoffs

[Mantle7]

lots of upside to harper

better fielder
bats lefthanded
can play every position including catcher

these games don't really matter though, both teams will be in playoffs this fall.. then we'll see who's who

Saaaaay Whaaaaaa? Better fielder? How could you possibly think that? He will almost undoubtedly have the play of the year.... I just watched Harper drop a routine fly ball tonight.

[Hilljacademics]

nuff said I reckon.

[PaperTrail07]

Frazier is the MAN!

[Bcatswin]

The Toddfather hands down over Harper.

[zenith8181]

come on man, I thought you only know basketball....

[stevenash]

2012 WINS ABOVE REPLACEMENT

RK	PLAYER	TEAM	WAR
1	Mike Trout	LAA	9.1
2	Robinson Cano	NYY	6.0
	Johnny Cueto	CIN	6.0
4	Andrew McCutchen	PIT	5.8
5	Michael Bourn	ATL	5.6
	Justin Verlander	DET	5.6
7	Ryan Braun	MIL	5.5
	Miguel Cabrera	DET	5.5
9	Chris Sale	CHW	5.3
10	Hiroki Kuroda	NYY	5.2

Mike Trout is first rookie with 25 HR, 40 SB



In going deep again Tuesday night, Mike Troutbecame the 33rd player ever and first rookie to hit 25 homers and steal 40 bases in a season.

Trout, who just turned 21 this month, is also the youngest to accomplish the feat.

Trout is one of 10 players with 25 HR-40 SB seasons since 2000:

Vladimir Guerrero – 39 HR, 40 SB in 2002
Alfonso Soriano – 39 HR, 41 SB in 2002
Carlos Beltran – 26 HR, 41 SB in 2003
Bobby Abreu – 30 HR, 40 SB in 2004
Carlos Beltran – 38 HR, 42 SB in 2004
Alfonso Soriano – 46 HR, 41 SB in 2006
Hanley Ramirez – 29 HR, 51 SB in 2007
Jimmy Rollins – 30 HR, 41 SB in 2007
Matt Kemp – 39 HR, 40 SB in 2011
Mike Trout – 25 HR, 41 SB in 2012

Trout won’t get to 40-40 this season, though perhaps he could have had he been on the Angels’ Opening Day roster (the 25 homers have come in 106 games). He does have a real shot of becoming just the third 30-50 guy ever. Eric Davis (37 HR, 50 SB) did it for the Reds in 1987. Barry Bonds (33 HR, 52 SB) accomplished the feat three years later for Pittsburgh.

[rumnblack]

They're both good for bases as long as they aren't juicing.

[Big Bear]

[QUOTE=jjgold;15226014]Harper doing ok although he has a swing thaty wil break down and go into long slumps[/QUOTE


Harper off to a slow start

will he heat on 4/20 in Colorado?

[jjgold]

Harper so overrated

always was

Trout a monster yearly

[Chi_archie]

Harper so overrated

always was

Trout a monster yearly

easy to be a monster on a losing team

no pressure

hitters can't win for you, young Pitching studs are what a team needs

[Thrilla]

How 24 teams passed on Mike Trout in the 2009 MLB draft

Karl Ravech, Tim Kurkjian and David Ross reevaluate the 2009 MLB draft, analyzing how Los Angeles Angels' star Mike Trout dropped all the way to the 25th overall pick. Kurkjian and Ravech also take a look at the rest of the 2009 draft class, while Ross share his memories from the 1995 MLB draft.