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  • RangeFinder
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-27-16
    • 8041

    #1
    College Football Play's for Saturday and thought for the day
    Why work so hard to be normal, when God created you to stand out?

    Duke +2 1/2

    Georgia -10

    Arizona St +5

    Have a great Saturday!
  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #2
    Ranger , GL
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    • RangeFinder
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-27-16
      • 8041

      #3
      Originally posted by Sam Odom
      Ranger , GL
      Thanks Sam!

      You ready to go pro again?
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      • Sam Odom
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-30-05
        • 58063

        #4
        Originally posted by RangeFinder

        You ready to go pro again?

        NO...
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        • CWD
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-22-12
          • 7665

          #5
          odom clowned him

          propz sammy
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          • RangeFinder
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-27-16
            • 8041

            #6
            Originally posted by CWD
            odom clowned him

            propz sammy
            ???
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            • RangeFinder
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-27-16
              • 8041

              #7
              Originally posted by Sam Odom
              NO...
              What did they do to make you not re-up?
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              • Hman
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-04-17
                • 21429

                #8
                Gonna give your picks a look & consideration.

                GL RF
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                • RangeFinder
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-27-16
                  • 8041

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hman
                  Gonna give your picks a look & consideration.

                  GL RF
                  Thanks H!
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                  • CWD
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-22-12
                    • 7665

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RangeFinder
                    ???
                    guy says stand out be different then asks the most redundant question in forum history lol
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                    • RangeFinder
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-27-16
                      • 8041

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CWD
                      guy says stand out be different then asks the most redundant question in forum history lol
                      Didn't know it was such a huge subject

                      Sorry for asking
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Sammy broke
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #13
                          Ranger , stay focused
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                          • RangeFinder
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-27-16
                            • 8041

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                            Ranger , stay focused
                            You're right. I still have MLB and Los Alamitos to look at
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                            • A Quant
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-14-18
                              • 1357

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RangeFinder
                              Why work so hard to be normal, when God created you to stand out?

                              Duke +2 1/2

                              Georgia -10

                              Arizona St +5

                              Have a great Saturday!
                              My man, I hate to be a dick or a broken record, but I have to ask.

                              Why take the 2.5 with Duke? The odds Northwestern will win that game by 1-2 points is less than 1%.

                              You can get Duke at +120 right now.

                              I am going to preach this until you guys realize you are letting cash on the table. If you lose the game, you save 10 cents. If you win the game outright, you left 30 cents on the table.

                              Over the course of a season, it matters.
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                              • RangeFinder
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-27-16
                                • 8041

                                #16
                                Originally posted by A Quant
                                My man, I hate to be a dick or a broken record, but I have to ask.

                                Why take the 2.5 with Duke? The odds Northwestern will win that game by 1-2 points is less than 1%.

                                You can get Duke at +120 right now.

                                I am going to preach this until you guys realize you are letting cash on the table. If you lose the game, you save 10 cents. If you win the game outright, you left 30 cents on the table.

                                Over the course of a season, it matters.
                                My numbers say Duke wins by 1. I'm taking the extra 3.5 points in my view. Pointspread edge and moneyline edge are two entirely different wagers. You have to first determine your edge on each. Now I agree there is an edge moneyline on Duke. But I find that the bigger edge is taking 2.5.

                                It's debatable on which wager one should take here but long term I think playing the point spread is the better edge IMO
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                                • A Quant
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-14-18
                                  • 1357

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                  My numbers say Duke wins by 1. I'm taking the extra 3.5 points in my view. Pointspread edge and moneyline edge are two entirely different wagers. You have to first determine your edge on each. Now I agree there is an edge moneyline on Duke. But I find that the bigger edge is taking 2.5.

                                  It's debatable on which wager one should take here but long term I think playing the point spread is the better edge IMO
                                  Appreciate the answer. I really do, most guys don't respond when I ask them that question.

                                  Long term there is absolutely no question the play is the ML.

                                  I created this thread right here on SBR.



                                  Let me quote myself...

                                  From 2013 thru 2017 there were 2832 games in 1-A. Of those 2832 games, there were 265 games (9.3%) where the close was 2.5 or less. That's 9% of your available games that close at 2.5 points or less.

                                  Of those 265 games, 4 of them ended with the underdog covering with either +1.5, +2, or +2.5. That is 1.5% of the total games. In other words, 98.51% of the time, if you took the +1.5, +2, +2.5, the numbers would make absolutely no difference whatsoever....

                                  Don't confuse your power numbers with the probability of the event outcome being Northwestern winning by 1 or 2 points.

                                  The probability of that happening is about 1.5%. I gave you 5 year data, 10 year data is even more convincing. 10 year data suggest the outcome of a dog needing those 1-2 points is 1.1%.

                                  A dog needing 1.5-2-2.5 has to win ATS has happened 7 times (1.1%)

                                  7 times in 612 games over the last 10 years in NCAA Football taking the points would have helped you. 7.

                                  On the other hand, dogs getting those numbers won outright last year 19 times. Just last year.

                                  Good luck, I hope you win it.

                                  Cheers, man!

                                  Appreciated you not getting all pissed off, some guys are too sensitive on these boards if you ask them a question.
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                                  • RangeFinder
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-27-16
                                    • 8041

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by A Quant
                                    Appreciate the answer. I really do, most guys don't respond when I ask them that question.

                                    Long term there is absolutely no question the play is the ML.

                                    I created this thread right here on SBR.



                                    Let me quote myself...

                                    From 2013 thru 2017 there were 2832 games in 1-A. Of those 2832 games, there were 265 games (9.3%) where the close was 2.5 or less. That's 9% of your available games that close at 2.5 points or less.

                                    Of those 265 games, 4 of them ended with the underdog covering with either +1.5, +2, or +2.5. That is 1.5% of the total games. In other words, 98.51% of the time. if you took the +1.5, +2, +2.5, the numbers would make absolutely no difference whatsoever....

                                    Don't confuse your power numbers with the probability of the event outcome being Northwestern winning by 1 or 2 points.

                                    The probability of that happening is about 1.5%. I gave you 5 year data, 10 year data is even more convincing. 10 year data suggest the outcome of a dog needing those 1-2 points is 1.1%.

                                    A dog needing 1.5-2-2.5 has to win ATS has happened 7 times (1.1%)

                                    7 times in 612 games over the last 10 years in NCAA Football taking the points would have helped you. 7.

                                    On the other hand, dogs getting those numbers won outright last year 19 times. Just last year.

                                    Good luck, I hope you win it.

                                    Cheers, man!

                                    Appreciated you not getting all pissed off, some guys are too sensitive on these boards if you ask them a question.
                                    Nah man I like feedback like this. It can only make me better. I appreciate the history. But my main question is the sample. Is it a big enough sample to determine that those numbers hold over 10,000 play's? Those numbers are pretty convincing but I think for one to determine anything number wise you need at least 10K in samples, something I learned in statistics class in college. Again I appreciate the feedback as I will take this in consideration in the future when determining which way to go a far as M/L or pointspread.

                                    Cheers back at ya brah
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                                    • RangeFinder
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-27-16
                                      • 8041

                                      #19
                                      2 down one to go
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Looking good
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                                        • A Quant
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-14-18
                                          • 1357

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                          2 down one to go
                                          Man, hope you laugh at this-- but I told ya.. ML!

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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #22
                                            I had the Duke moneyline Range...lol.

                                            I post my NCAAF Upset Baskets and Quant would probably be pleased with the small moneylines it takes.

                                            Good work so far Range but I am on the other side of tonight's game...

                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                            The NCAAF Market Reads Fund has picked up MICHIGAN ST -4.5 (+100) and -185 over ARIZONA ST...


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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #23
                                              Looking good so far. Let's get the late one
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                                              • RangeFinder
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-27-16
                                                • 8041

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                I had the Duke moneyline Range...lol.

                                                I post my NCAAF Upset Baskets and Quant would probably be pleased with the small moneylines it takes.

                                                Good work so far Range but I am on the other side of tonight's game...





                                                Oh no that kangaroo!
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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #25
                                                  Good Work Range!

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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    It is called sweeping the board
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                                                    • RangeFinder
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-27-16
                                                      • 8041

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      It is called sweeping the board
                                                      Thanks jj, K and Quant. Now it's another day and you guys know the old saying "You're only as good as your last win.
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                                                      • Da Manster!
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-13-07
                                                        • 17720

                                                        #28
                                                        nice work Range Finder......keep it up, brother!...
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                                                        • A Quant
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-14-18
                                                          • 1357

                                                          #29
                                                          Really nice job, Range.

                                                          Well done!
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