Leafs set to remake roster.

jkrap27 · 06-30-09, 03:53 PM

blittydeuce · 06-30-09, 04:01 PM

I see the Sedin twins going to Minnesota in some type of exchange for Gaborik....Montreal possibly also sending Saku koivu there, to play with Mikko.....2 sets of Swedish brothers playing for the Wild.....I should be a GM

bruceBRUCEbruce · 06-30-09, 04:16 PM

the Leafs ****ing suck. they are the Cubs of the NHL. except they're not loveable losers.

Squirrel · 06-30-09, 04:21 PM

The Leafs could be in a division with just them and Phoenix and STILL find a way to miss the playoffs.

element1286 · 06-30-09, 04:31 PM

Good luck, never been a fan of Burke. He should be making the team better by good drafting and shrewd UFA signings. Not throwing money around.

betplom · 06-30-09, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce

the Leafs ****ing suck. they are the Cubs of the NHL. except they're not loveable losers.

The current Leaf team does suck hence the need for some help.

The plan is to acquire some toughness (Orr) and skill (the Sedins) and still be able to go after Rick Nash next summer when he tests the free agent market.

The Leafs are by far the most important/popular Canadian NHL team and the time has come for some improvement.
Look for Toronto to be much better in the next couple of years.

Originally posted by element1286

Good luck, never been a fan of Burke. He should be making the team better by good drafting and shrewd UFA signings. Not throwing money around.

I wasn't a Burke fan either, but I'll give him a chance.
His personality suits the Toronto market.

TheIntegrityKid · 06-30-09, 04:38 PM

Toronto needs a 2nd team.... that way these Toronto guys may see a winner

otherwise, gotta keep watching The Love Guru

element1286 · 06-30-09, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by betplom

The current Leaf team does suck hence the need for some help.

The plan is to acquire some toughness (Orr) and skill (the Sedins) and still be able to go after Rick Nash next summer when he tests the free agent market.

The Leafs are by far the most important/popular Canadian NHL team and the time has come for some improvement.
Look for Toronto to be much better in the next couple of years.

I wasn't a Burke fan either, but I'll give him a chance.
His personality suits the Toronto market.

Although I don't think the Leafs should be going after big time UFA's. Beauchimen or Ohlund are two players the Leafs should go after, IMO. Both extremely underrated, and could be had for a little more than half of what J-Bo is going to get.

betplom · 06-30-09, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Although I don't think the Leafs should be going after big time UFA's. Beauchimen or Ohlund are two players the Leafs should go after, IMO. Both extremely underrated, and could be had for a little more than half of what J-Bo is going to get.

The current Leaf ownership has realized that missing the playoffs costs them alot of money, I think Burke will be under some pressure to make the post season and in order to have a chance some improvement is needed, right now there is only one way to improve quickly, UFA's , look at how quickly Philly improved in a short time.

Ohlund is an option and they are looking at him.

I like the fact that they are aware of Rick Nash's situation and are aiming for him next season, a big plus is he is a Toronto boy and wants to play in his hometown.

DwightShrute · 06-30-09, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by betplom

The Leafs are by far the most important/popular Canadian NHL team

OH MY STOMACH

element1286 · 06-30-09, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by betplom

The current Leaf ownership has realized that missing the playoffs costs them alot of money, I think Burke will be under some pressure to make the post season and in order to have a chance some improvement is needed, right now there is only one way to improve quickly, UFA's , look at how quickly Philly improved in a short time.

Ohlund is an option and they are looking at him.

I like the fact that they are aware of Rick Nash's situation and are aiming for him next season, a big plus is he is a Toronto boy and wants to play in his hometown.

They also ruined their cap situation by missing on the Briere deal. And giving too much money to Lupul and Timonen. Rangers fukked up their cap with UFA signings as well. Luckily they pawned off Gomez on the Habs for a decent player in Higgins.

I'm not a fan of looking at next year's free agents at this time of year.

DwightShrute · 06-30-09, 05:12 PM

Brian Burke is a good hockey man. Unfortunately the Leaves will be better sooner that anyone thinks or in my case, wants.

These Toronto fans are hilarious with their CBC/Don Cherry disease. a lifetime illness apparently that has been shoved thrown their throats from an early age and they still believe it. They still believe in Santa Clause and Eskimos also

Propaganda works sometimes

It's always good for a laugh.

1967

VegasDave · 06-30-09, 05:17 PM

What gets me about the Leafs when you read trade rumors they come up with and what not is that they want all the benefits of a full rebuild without actually sucking.

Their pipeline is sadly bone dry. That's why they can't make any big trades; they don't have tradeable assets. Burke will build the reserves over the next few years, but the Leafs are going to have to suck for a while before they can be competitive. Will be a rough few years, but with Burke at the helm, he should be able to make the sucking count for something, instead of being stuck in that "black hole" of always drafting in the 10-15 spot sitting just outside the playoffs.

betplom · 06-30-09, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

Brian Burke is a good hockey man. Unfortunately the Leaves will be better sooner that anyone thinks or in my case, wants.

These Toronto fans are hilarious with their CBC/Don Cherry disease. a lifetime illness apparently that has been shoved thrown their throats from an early age and they still believe it. They still believe in Santa Clause and Eskimos also

Propaganda works sometimes

It's always good for a laugh.

1967

Why wouldn't you want Canada's team to be successful?

The Canucks have all those Stanley Cups already, time for Toronto to get one too.

betplom · 06-30-09, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

What gets me about the Leafs when you read trade rumors they come up with and what not is that they want all the benefits of a full rebuild without actually sucking.

Their pipeline is sadly bone dry. That's why they can't make any big trades; they don't have tradeable assets. Burke will build the reserves over the next few years, but the Leafs are going to have to suck for a while before they can be competitive. Will be a rough few years, but with Burke at the helm, he should be able to make the sucking count for something, instead of being stuck in that "black hole" of always drafting in the 10-15 spot sitting just outside the playoffs.

Davey, the Leafs have lots of cap space, and can acquire UFA's, they really only have one asset worth trading - Kaberle, & I'm certain his days are over in Toronto.

Minkus · 06-30-09, 05:20 PM

Best of luck leafs

I hope it works out

Top 4 contenders for the cup are as follows still
Penguins
BlackHawks
Flyers
redWings

TheIntegrityKid · 06-30-09, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Minkus

Best of luck leafs

I hope it works out

Top 4 contenders for the cup are as follows still
Penguins
BlackHawks
Flyers
redWings

i wonder which team YOU like

betplom · 06-30-09, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Minkus

Best of luck leafs

I hope it works out

Top 4 contenders for the cup are as follows still
Penguins
BlackHawks
Flyers
redWings

Flyers, how can you leave out Boston? or Anaheim for that matter?

Chicago is looking pretty good too.

VegasDave · 06-30-09, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by betplom

Davey, the Leafs have lots of cap space, and can acquire UFA's, they really only have one asset worth trading - Kaberle, & I'm certain his days are over in Toronto.

Kaberle definitely is a tradeable asset; I meant assets in the farm.

They do have lots of cap space, and I wouldn't be surprised if they made a big splash. But Burke really isn't the type to overpay for players. And I just don't know that he's going to sign the Sedins to the 12 year 63 million dollars EACH deal they are looking for, and I get the feeling Hossa wants to play for a winner and Havlat is likely staying in Chicago. That leaves Gaborik, and the other 29 teams want him too.. and some dumb team will offer him a 4 or 5 year deal despite his injury woes, and I don't think Burke is impatient/stupid enough to try to outbid that.

But I could be wrong. Tomorrow will be a fun day.

element1286 · 06-30-09, 05:24 PM

I'd put Boston and Anaheim over Chicago and Philly.

DwightShrute · 06-30-09, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Minkus

Best of luck leafs

I hope it works out

Top 4 contenders for the cup are as follows still
Penguins
BlackHawks
Flyers
redWings

top 4 for me are:

Pitt
wings
Ducks
Caps

Too early to say really

Minkus · 06-30-09, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Minkus

Best of luck leafs

I hope it works out

Top 4 contenders for the cup are as follows still
Penguins
BlackHawks
Flyers
redWings

Originally posted by betplom

Flyers, how can you leave out Boston? or Anaheim for that matter?

Chicago is looking pretty good too.

Stop calling me flyers for one.

Boston is a choke team, so is anaheim.

Anaheim lost there only player with heart, Pronger.

Pronger has just gave the Flyers what they have been seeking for, for over 10 years now.

as i see it, Penguins will ovibouslly continue to be a threat in the NHL. Only other team to match up to them in the East, are the Flyers(Finally got D, and goaltending, Biron sucks and he is finally gone!)

betplom · 06-30-09, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

But I could be wrong. Tomorrow will be a fun day.

Speculating is half the fun, and I agree, Burke won't overpay, but then again he doesn't have to, if the Leafs finished last the next 5 years in a row the waiting list for Leafs seasons tickets will still be between 12-18 years!

Minkus · 06-30-09, 05:28 PM

Boston, nah they dont have the heart.

Capitals consist of one player who PLAYS with heart in the regular season and playoffs, we all knwo who that is....

VegasDave · 06-30-09, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Minkus

Anaheim lost there only player with heart, Pronger.

That type of comment is exactly why people are calling you Flyers.

DwightShrute · 06-30-09, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by betplom

Why wouldn't you want Canada's team to be successful?

comments like this :The Leafs are by far the most important/popular Canadian NHL team

Maybe for Torontonians but that couldn't be farther from the truth.

betplom · 06-30-09, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Minkus

Stop calling me flyers for one.

Pronger has just gave the Flyers what they have been seeking for, for over 10 years now.

Yes, if the Flyers are looking for an over rated defenceman whos playing ability is on the downside but who's ability to take dumb penalties at precisely the worst moment is on the upswing.

Originally posted by DwightShrute

comments like this :The Leafs are by far the most important/popular Canadian NHL team

Maybe for Torontonians but that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Really? all the western Canadian teams complained about the scheduling when Toronto never visited, the Leafs are easily the most popular team in the nation, numbers don't lie.

Next you'll try to have us believe the Leafs are not the most $$valuable$$ franchise in the NHL.

Minkus · 06-30-09, 05:28 PM

PS
This thread is giving me a thingly feeling, ah i miss the NHL allready

Minkus · 06-30-09, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by betplom

Flyers, how can you leave out Boston? or Anaheim for that matter?

Chicago is looking pretty good too.

Originally posted by betplom

Yes, if the Flyers are looking for an over rated defenceman whos playing ability is on the decline but his ability to take dumb penalties at precisely the worst moment is increasing.

If he DOES not prove himself this year, you are right
BUT he is looking for a top payday , kind of what Lidstrom makes, and the only way he will get that much, is IF he proves himself this season, which im sure he will do.

But IDC who wins the cup, I dont have a Fav team. I have Fav players

element1286 · 06-30-09, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by betplom

Yes, if the Flyers are looking for an over rated defenceman whos playing ability is on the downside but who's ability to take dumb penalties at precisely the worst moment is on the upswing.

Sounds like a Flyer a to me.

VegasDave · 06-30-09, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by betplom

Speculating is half the fun, and I agree, Burke won't overpay, but then again he doesn't have to, if the Leafs finished last the next 5 years in a row the waiting list for Leafs seasons tickets will still be between 12-18 years!

Exactly! That's why I think he's more likely to obviously not tank this year but not make a big slash during free agency, suck, sell players for picks and prospects at the deadline, and draft in the top 5. Build up the reserves and go into next season with a ton of cap space and a brighter future.

(And now they will sign Hossa and both Sedins, lol)

Minkus · 06-30-09, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

That type of comment is exactly why people are calling you Flyers.

Then he must have seen the BIG picture as like many other NHL cappers then.

Minkus · 06-30-09, 05:32 PM

Fuk singing Hossa .
He blows hes a sore loser with no heart

VegasDave · 06-30-09, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by betplom

Yes, if the Flyers are looking for an over rated defenceman whos playing ability is on the downside but who's ability to take dumb penalties at precisely the worst moment is on the upswing.

Not to mention completely mortgaging the future for one year of his services!

Honestly, if you were going to give up Lupul, Sbisa, two 1sts and a 3rd, maybe you should have gone and found a GOALTENDER.