Super bowl winner

[lakerboy]

Bears had a GREAT draft though, as their top 4 picks were all great value considering when they picked them, and 3 of the 4 are on defense. Getting a potential second rounder like D.J. Moore with pick #119 was a real coup.

thats true lt and plus they signed them up already to avoid the training camp holdout business. its just as a Bears fan im used to winning nothing

[TheIntegrityKid]

You got your NBA championship, Lakerboy

If you get a SuperBowl too, I'll be jealous as fuk!

[obamaismyuncle]

The Eagles will NEVER win the Superbowl with McNabb as QB

I second that! Vikings go to the Super Bowl and lose to the Pats 41-6, with Moss getting 3 td's. Well maybe 41-9.

[haserfauld]

I just cut the top 6 from the list, I wouldn't actually have bet on the cowboys hahah. Maybe something more like this:

101 Pittsburgh Steelers +900
104 New York Giants +1000
105 Indianapolis Colts +1200
106 San Diego Chargers +1400
108 Philadelphia Eagles +1400
122 Chicago Bears +1800


Some other notable values:

Arizona Cardinals +2500
Atlanta Falcons +2200
Minnesota Vikings +1800

[obamaismyuncle]

I just cut the top 6 from the list, I wouldn't actually have bet on the cowboys hahah. Maybe something more like this:

101 Pittsburgh Steelers +900
104 New York Giants +1000
105 Indianapolis Colts +1200
106 San Diego Chargers +1400
108 Philadelphia Eagles +1400
122 Chicago Bears +1800


Some other notable values:

Arizona Cardinals +2500
Atlanta Falcons +2200
Minnesota Vikings +1800

Patriots?

[DwightShrute]

Dolphins?

[TheIntegrityKid]

Bills?

Lol... seriously tho. Look at them...

[haserfauld]

Bills I believe are +5000. If the bills win the superbowl this year...wow.

Dolphins are +4500. Same for the dolphins lol. I don't see it.

Pats are +550, clearly being the favorites. I suppose it'd be better to include them too, since Brady is kind of a big unknown at the moment. If he steps back in in the shape he was before, I'd regret not including them.

[DwightShrute]

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Screw the Pats

[obamaismyuncle]

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Screw the Pats

Super Bowl rings don't lie. Expect another this year!

[dreamjob]

Yeah... VERY poor pick in picking the 'Boys. Especially with them hosting the damn game.. A SuperBowl host has never or will ever, be in it. EVER...

I'm about 15 minutes from the New Cowboys stadium. That's an enormous mother fukker. When my Giants go I will be up in the nosebleed section cheering my team on for their 2nd championship in 3 years.
DJ

[Scully]

The Eagles will NEVER win the Superbowl with McNabb as QB

I'll second that comment without any hesitation.

[TheIntegrityKid]

The Eagles got to the NFC Title game and then had a WONDERFUL off-season...

They have to be the faves to rep the NFC...

[LT Profits]

The Eagles got to the NFC Title game and then had a WONDERFUL off-season...

They have to be the faves to rep the NFC...

Eagles are not even favored to win their division, although I admit I prefer them at +225 to win the NFC East to the Giants at +145.

[ZBOIZ]

New Orleans Saints will win it this year

[LT Profits]

Actually, Eagles are also second choice to win the NFC (+685) to the Giants (+545). Next comes Cowboys at +725, so just about any team outside of the NFC East except for the Vikings (+815) has nice value.

[ATB515]

The Eagles are definitely going to win the NFC East. They are easily the best team in that division. It's actually not even that close now that the Giants biggest outside threat is an unproven rookie. No more Derrick Ward, so when Brandon Jacobs goes down like he always does, they're fukked. Good Defense, average offense. The Eagles take the NFC East easily.

Eagles 12-4
Giants 9-7
Redskins 8-8
Cowgirls 8-8

Eagles are not even favored to win their division, although I admit I prefer them at +225 to win the NFC East to the Giants at +145.

[Minkus]

Eagles or Patriots

[slacker00]

The Pats (+425). With a healthy Brady, they should run away with the #1 seed in the AFC.

For second-tier teams, Chargers (+1615) & Cowboys (+1650) are great value.

For longshots, I like Titans(+2550), Bears(+3050), Jags(+5250).

If you want a super longshot, I grabbed the Rams (+17500)

[darthfader]

in order of most likely to least likely
1. patriots
2. steelers
3. colts
4. cowboys
5. giants

dark horses - chargers/jets

[LT Profits]

I am seeing a lot of Patriots love here. Based on their odds, they are the most overrated team in the NFL right now. They have too many holes to be considered a runaway #1 seed, even with a healthy Brady, which is not even a given with the severity of his knee injury.

[jjgold]

Dallas and phila should be good

Saints are fukkin due to explode

[Deuce]

Dallas and phila should be good

Saints are fukkin due to explode

So are the lions you nit wit.

[slacker00]

I am seeing a lot of Patriots love here. Based on their odds, they are the most overrated team in the NFL right now. They have too many holes to be considered a runaway #1 seed, even with a healthy Brady, which is not even a given with the severity of his knee injury.

My main worries about the Pats would be the tough schedule or Tom Brady's comeback.

I don't see the holes. They've drafted solid in recent years as well as getting good value in free agency. There is no argument about aging stars. The team is solid at every position, not to mention solid depth everywhere. Where are the holes?

[TheIntegrityKid]

I keep sayin it, Philly...

Come on guys, got to the NFC Title game and then added 2 GREAT tackles, PLUS that draft class... Maclin is another Desean and McCoy is the PERFECT complement to WB. McNabb now has the toys to play with and will lead Philly to the promised land

[slacker00]

I keep sayin it, Philly...

Come on guys, got to the NFC Title game and then added 2 GREAT tackles, PLUS that draft class... Maclin is another Desean and McCoy is the PERFECT complement to WB. McNabb now has the toys to play with and will lead Philly to the promised land

I'll tout Philly to get to the SB, but they'll find a way to choke if they get there. The NFC is iffy again this year, at the top, and the Eagles are certainly the front runner heading into the season.

Eagles are an awesome team with awesome talent. I love Andy Reid as a HC. If you want me to point the finger of blame, I point it at the DC Jim Johnson. The Cards exposed him in the NFC Championship game, IMHO. I think other teams will be able to use that game plan again when the chips are down. Teams with a dynamite QB & WR corps combo can rip Philly apart.

[cmerunoveru]

Philly picks up brandon marshall and goes all the way this year.

[LT Profits]

My main worries about the Pats would be the tough schedule or Tom Brady's comeback.

I don't see the holes. They've drafted solid in recent years as well as getting good value in free agency. There is no argument about aging stars. The team is solid at every position, not to mention solid depth everywhere. Where are the holes?

The biggest weakness is the pass rush, and I don't see anything they did in the off season that fixed that problem.

Of course, it also hurts that Bruschi and Seau get so much playing time.

And at running back, Maroney can't stay healthy. Yes they have a lot of depth at running back, but Fred Taylor is around 68 years old (lol) and would you really want to rely on Faulk, Morris of Jordan as an every-down back if Maroney goes down and Taylor loses a step?

[TheIntegrityKid]

the pats running game is brady to welker 11 times a game on the underneath routes

[L2Gunz]

Dallas and phila should be good

Saints are fukkin due to explode

Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, how I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints come marching in
Oh, when the saints come marching in
Oh yes, I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in

Saints go all the way, saints go all the way
ohhhh I believeeeeeee.

who dat..who dat..
who dat say they gonna beat them saints...who dat

[TheIntegrityKid]

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Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints go marching in
Oh, how I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in
Oh, when the saints come marching in
Oh, when the saints come marching in
Oh yes, I want to be in that number
When the saints go marching in

Saints go all the way, saints go all the way
ohhhh I believeeeeeee.

who dat..who dat..
who dat say they gonna beat them saints...who dat

someone loves their saints lol

[L2Gunz]

someone loves their saints lol

yes I do...it's a Love/Hate relationship my friend...but I cant wait till the new season..im a season ticket holder and I'm also going to the Saints/Dolphins game in Miami on Oct. 25th....about 15 of us are going on a bachelor party in South Beach, Miami..from Oct. 23rd to the 26th...im counting the days!!!! im ready to.......ive never been to Miami before...this is going to be great!!!!!

[slacker00]

The biggest weakness is the pass rush, and I don't see anything they did in the off season that fixed that problem.

Of course, it also hurts that Bruschi and Seau get so much playing time.

And at running back, Maroney can't stay healthy. Yes they have a lot of depth at running back, but Fred Taylor is around 68 years old (lol) and would you really want to rely on Faulk, Morris of Jordan as an every-down back if Maroney goes down and Taylor loses a step?

At RB, Morris is listed at #1 on the depth chart, then Taylor & Maroney. I'll admit there's some questions there, but the Patriots have won rings with much worse talent at RB.

As for pass rush, Seymour-Wilfork-Warren is as good as it gets in the 3-4. A.Thomas & J.Mayo should be more adept in their second year in the system. Brusci is still listed as a starting ILB, he's the coach on the field. Then Pierre Woods is the other starting OLB, which is probably the weakness in the defense.

I guess I give Belichick a lot of credit for figuring out the defense, as well as coaching up whatever LB talent he has lying around. There were some defensive players taken in the draft, maybe they can at least push the starters or at least steal some game reps to keep the team fresh. Heck, Banta-Cain is back, maybe Belichick is counting on him to be a major contributor.

[TheIntegrityKid]

At RB, Morris is listed at #1 on the depth chart, then Taylor & Maroney. I'll admit there's some questions there, but the Patriots have won rings with much worse talent at RB.

As for pass rush, Seymour-Wilfork-Warren is as good as it gets in the 3-4. A.Thomas & J.Mayo should be more adept in their second year in the system. Brusci is still listed as a starting ILB, he's the coach on the field. Then Pierre Woods is the other starting OLB, which is probably the weakness in the defense.

I guess I give Belichick a lot of credit for figuring out the defense, as well as coaching up whatever LB talent he has lying around. There were some defensive players taken in the draft, maybe they can at least push the starters or at least steal some game reps to keep the team fresh. Heck, Banta-Cain is back, maybe Belichick is counting on him to be a major contributor.

Their short passing game is their run game. The Fred Taylor addition was pure gold. You know he is gonna give it all he has. This is his last best shot at a ring. After a stellar career under the radar, he will be motivated to finally reach the mountain top.

I like the Pat's def because you can never count out BB when it comes to the D. The real question mark of that unit will be corners and safeties tho.

They ofcourse will be fine and in the hunt for the ring, provided Brady stays healthy...

[lakerboy]

The pats had their days. They won t win this year they have become too predictable and other teams are starting too figure them out. Why has hardly anyone said the steelers. They have the best team still and although it kills me to see them win they can do it if things fall for them.