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  • funnyb25
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    • 07-09-09
    • 39663

    #1156
    Was standing on a chair. From room to room. That is why the delay in between rounds. Had to reload the clips and went back n forth from room to room hence the 2 windows. Will confirm later.
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    • CMHolla2
      SBR Rookie
      • 06-22-17
      • 32

      #1157
      I guess he had no maids in there through out the 4 days

      holla
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      • Auto Donk
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-03-13
        • 43558

        #1158
        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
        Now they are saying... since he was a professional gambler... he was a VERY GOOD BLUFFER!

        I think I'm done here. I'm tired of the bullsh#$ with this media.
        i ALWAYS BLUFF MY ASS OFF WHEN PLAYING VIDEO POKER.....

        you gotta be f'n kiddin' me!!!!!

        I once made a slot machine fold by bluffin' it, too......

        fuk the media is re tar ded
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        • Auto Donk
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-03-13
          • 43558

          #1159
          Originally posted by CMHolla2
          I guess he had no maids in there through out the 4 days

          holla
          who do you think the guy was??? Ttaddy????

          only that good lookin' little mazzah fahka closes on all the maids........
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          • grease lightnin
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-01-12
            • 16015

            #1160
            Windows were floor to ceiling

            The shooter concealed himself by standing back 6ft

            This is part of his evil genius.

            As his brother says...
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            • Auto Donk
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-03-13
              • 43558

              #1161
              Originally posted by funnyb25
              Was standing on a chair. From room to room. That is why the delay in between rounds. Had to reload the clips and went back n forth from room to room hence the 2 windows. Will confirm later.
              i assume you mean exchangin' clips... he wasn't reloading clips, ie, putting more ammo into the specific clips....;

              that was already done well in advance.... one photo i saw he had a pile of prep-loaded clips, stack of em.....
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              • milwaukee mike
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                • 08-22-07
                • 26914

                #1162
                Originally posted by Auto Donk
                i ALWAYS BLUFF MY ASS OFF WHEN PLAYING VIDEO POKER.....

                you gotta be f'n kiddin' me!!!!!

                I once made a slot machine fold by bluffin' it, too......

                fuk the media is re tar ded
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                • funnyb25
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                  • 07-09-09
                  • 39663

                  #1163
                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                  i assume you mean exchangin' clips... he wasn't reloading clips, ie, putting more ammo into the specific clips....;

                  that was already done well in advance.... one photo i saw he had a pile of prep-loaded clips, stack of em.....
                  Yes...Exchanging....Come on man...Obvi not bullet per bullet...putting in the new set
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                  • Auto Donk
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                    • 09-03-13
                    • 43558

                    #1164
                    i think the delays were more associated with moving to the next room, stoppin for a drink of his favorite cocktail, checking the hall cameras he set up....

                    only takes about ten seconds to change clips....

                    also, lombardino gave us info that several of the twelve bump stock ar's had jammed ..... he probably fukked around with the jammed guns for a five to six seconds before grabbin the next ar in line.... changin clips generally takes no time....
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                    • brooks85
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #1165
                      yeah watching the video of the tour of the suite the guy was in there is definitely a few items he could drag around and then securely stand on or lay on.
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                      • grease lightnin
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                        • 10-01-12
                        • 16015

                        #1166
                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                        i think the delays were more associated with moving to the next room, stoppin for a drink of his favorite cocktail, checking the hall cameras he set up....

                        only takes about ten seconds to change clips....

                        also, lombardino gave us info that several of the twelve bump stock ar's had jammed ..... he probably fukked around with the jammed guns for a five to six seconds before grabbin the next ar in line.... changin clips generally takes no time....



                        donker you are fukked up
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                        • d2bets
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                          • 08-10-05
                          • 39995

                          #1167
                          If they quickly figured where it was coming from, and with the window totally out, couldn't they have sniped him from another building or maybe from a helicopter? Maybe crazy, just wondering.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #1168
                            If he was closer he would’ve done much more damage
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                            • trytrytry
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                              • 03-13-06
                              • 23649

                              #1169
                              if this is ruled even if incorrect as massive death due to compulsive gambling the republican lawmaker wackos will have more reason to protect the family and take away short term shot at expansion of legal gambling freedoms we should have in America.
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                              • slambam
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                                • 02-07-10
                                • 1653

                                #1170
                                Originally posted by CMHolla2
                                I guess he had no maids in there through out the 4 days

                                holla
                                Not a surprise, I keep the occupied thing on the door for my entire stay when I'm at a hotel. Get new towels every couple days, don't gotta worry about the maid messing with shit.
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                                • funnyb25
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                                  • 07-09-09
                                  • 39663

                                  #1171
                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                  If they quickly figured where it was coming from, and with the window totally out, couldn't they have sniped him from another building or maybe from a helicopter? Maybe crazy, just wondering.
                                  All of the light was on the concert. Looking from bright lights into the dark, you cannot see chit....no one had a clue where it was coming from....
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                                  • PaperTrail07
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-29-08
                                    • 20423

                                    #1172
                                    Right.....I do the same.....who wants a mystery maid going through their $ drugs and electronics....am I right...?
                                    Originally posted by slambam
                                    Not a surprise, I keep the occupied thing on the door for my entire stay when I'm at a hotel. Get new towels every couple days, don't gotta worry about the maid messing with shit.
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                                    • Auto Donk
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-03-13
                                      • 43558

                                      #1173
                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                      yeah watching the video of the tour of the suite the guy was in there is definitely a few items he could drag around and then securely stand on or lay on.
                                      in addition to shooting out the 1,000,000 jiggowat beam on the luxor, i'd have thrown the fukkin' overpriced minibar right out the hole in the window, laughing all the while that they weren't gonna get paid for that shit.....

                                      maybe even hit a few pedestrians below, or landed it on the cab of that idiot takin' all the video right underneath him.....

                                      was talkin' to my youngest son today about all this, and he reminded me of the time he and I, while playing two player on grand theft auto san andreas, holed up together in a parking garage with unlimited ammo and fully automatics (helicopters couldnt get us, and the street cops/cars/tanks couldn't reach us), and shot away for about an hour and killed/blew up every f'n cop/swat team in vegas, laffing our asses off at the carnage.....

                                      we finally ran out into the streets at the highest wanted level because we finally grew board of killing thousands of cops.....

                                      nothing like a good father-son bonding activity......
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                                      • slambam
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-07-10
                                        • 1653

                                        #1174
                                        One thing I don't get is that he only shot for 10 minutes or so, but the police didn't get to his room for over an hour. Doesn't make sense. Somebody here said that he shot a security guard and thought the cops were on to him, so he off'ed himself right away. If that was the case, the security guard knew where he was, so why did it take so long for the SWAT team to get there? I would think it woulda been just a few minutes, but it was actually 45+ minutes. I guess the SWAT team isn't suited up and ready to go already, but if there is an active shooter in a situation like this, there is no way police can wait 45 minutes to get in his room. Could he have really used all him ammo in 10 minutes?
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                                        • brooks85
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #1175
                                          now they are saying he planned to escape possibly
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                                          • Auto Donk
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-03-13
                                            • 43558

                                            #1176
                                            Originally posted by slambam
                                            One thing I don't get is that he only shot for 10 minutes or so, but the police didn't get to his room for over an hour. Doesn't make sense. Somebody here said that he shot a security guard and thought the cops were on to him, so he off'ed himself right away. If that was the case, the security guard knew where he was, so why did it take so long for the SWAT team to get there? I would think it woulda been just a few minutes, but it was actually 45+ minutes. I guess the SWAT team isn't suited up and ready to go already, but if there is an active shooter in a situation like this, there is no way police can wait 45 minutes to get in his room. Could he have really used all him ammo in 10 minutes?
                                            i said that, and lombardo just confirmed my theory during the press conference..... swat team and assembled team wanted no part of that interhallway straffing paddock hand unleashed on the security gaurd.....

                                            lombardino used the lack of additional gunfire from the room, and the alleged clearing of every other room on that wing of the 32nd floor, as the reason those pussies didn't go in sooner.....

                                            vegas cops are real tough and quick when they're stuffin' a gun to the back of of the head of an unarmed guy like michael bennett, but a bit more squeamish and afraid when a guy has a gun and may shoot back......
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                                            • Kermit
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                                              • 09-27-10
                                              • 32555

                                              #1177
                                              Originally posted by slambam
                                              One thing I don't get is that he only shot for 10 minutes or so, but the police didn't get to his room for over an hour. Doesn't make sense. Somebody here said that he shot a security guard and thought the cops were on to him, so he off'ed himself right away. If that was the case, the security guard knew where he was, so why did it take so long for the SWAT team to get there? I would think it woulda been just a few minutes, but it was actually 45+ minutes. I guess the SWAT team isn't suited up and ready to go already, but if there is an active shooter in a situation like this, there is no way police can wait 45 minutes to get in his room. Could he have really used all him ammo in 10 minutes?
                                              The first shots were fired at 10:05 and the police were on the 32nd floor at 10:17. It does say they were clearing out rooms and I guess waiting for more officers to plan their attack on the gunman.

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                                              • d2bets
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                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 39995

                                                #1178
                                                Apparently he was gambling in the casino just hours before the same day. What is that about. What's the point.
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                                                • brooks85
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 44709

                                                  #1179
                                                  Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                  All of the light was on the concert. Looking from bright lights into the dark, you cannot see chit....no one had a clue where it was coming from....
                                                  definitely not going to be shooting back in that situation.

                                                  However, some people knew exactly where it was coming from after the first wave or two of bullets. In my posts a 2-3pages ago I quoted a link that has a video with people pointing at the hotel. One lady in particular is pointing seemingly at the exact spot the shooting was coming from. It is like she is looking right at the guy as he fires, she doesn't duck or anything. Also, some drunk idiot in the same video doesn't duck at first and instead gives the shooter double middle-fingers.
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                    • 36915

                                                    #1180
                                                    Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                    in addition to shooting out the 1,000,000 jiggowat beam on the luxor, i'd have thrown the fukkin' overpriced minibar right out the hole in the window, laughing all the while that they weren't gonna get paid for that shit.....

                                                    maybe even hit a few pedestrians below, or landed it on the cab of that idiot takin' all the video right underneath him.....

                                                    was talkin' to my youngest son today about all this, and he reminded me of the time he and I, while playing two player on grand theft auto san andreas, holed up together in a parking garage with unlimited ammo and fully automatics (helicopters couldnt get us, and the street cops/cars/tanks couldn't reach us), and shot away for about an hour and killed/blew up every f'n cop/swat team in vegas, laffing our asses off at the carnage.....

                                                    we finally ran out into the streets at the highest wanted level because we finally grew board of killing thousands of cops.....

                                                    nothing like a good father-son bonding activity......
                                                    when is his first trip to t.j.? Nothing like bonding pounding some trim.
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                                                    • funnyb25
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                                                      • 07-09-09
                                                      • 39663

                                                      #1181
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      Apparently he was gambling in the casino just hours before the same day. What is that about. What's the point.
                                                      He was just going for it man....Just killing time....makes sense to me
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                                                      • Auto Donk
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-03-13
                                                        • 43558

                                                        #1182
                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                        Apparently he was gambling in the casino just hours before the same day. What is that about. What's the point.
                                                        to give people the chills, and to let the general public know that any of us degenerate gamblers could, at any given point in time, come "unhinged" and start mass murdering people.....

                                                        between you and me, that's why i never ever take firearms to the casino..... i have wanted on several occasions to shoot up a bank of slot machines..... if i'd had 23 automatic rifles up in my suite, it's safe to say that last Cheshire Cat I played and a few Pussy Glitter machines would definitely be lobbying for stricter gun control........
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                                                        • funnyb25
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                                                          • 07-09-09
                                                          • 39663

                                                          #1183
                                                          And it is crazy the ones standing up staring and flippin the bird were fine....
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                                                          • slambam
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                                                            • 02-07-10
                                                            • 1653

                                                            #1184
                                                            Originally posted by Kermit
                                                            The first shots were fired at 10:05 and the police were on the 32nd floor at 10:17. It does say they were clearing out rooms and I guess waiting for more officers to plan their attack on the gunman.

                                                            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-veg...-mandalay-bay/
                                                            Good article, that makes sense. He probably saw the police on his cameras and killed himself right away. Still seems like a long time to wait. Hell, he coulda been getting a bomb ready to blow up the place for all they knew.
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                                                            • brooks85
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-05-09
                                                              • 44709

                                                              #1185
                                                              Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                              And it is crazy the ones standing up staring and flippin the bird were fine....
                                                              yep... and in the same video some pos who is overlooking the very same people we mentioned seems to be cheering the rain of bullets. Likely just some drunk idiot who doesn't know what is going on but seems very odd.
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                                                              • funnyb25
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                                                                • 07-09-09
                                                                • 39663

                                                                #1186
                                                                I think all of the rounds already had a pre-planned flight pattern....so it was just the luck or unluck of the draw if you will..
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                                                                • d2bets
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                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 39995

                                                                  #1187
                                                                  He was there to play, not to party. The night before the shooting, Mr. Paddock made two complaints to the hotel about noise coming from his downstairs neighbors: Albert Garzon, a restaurant owner visiting from San Diego, and his wife and friends. Mr. Garzon, who was staying in 31-135, directly beneath Mr. Paddock, said security guards knocked on his door around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday and asked him to turn down his music, country songs. When he asked where the complaint was coming from, pointing out that the nearest rooms on either side were far away, the security guard said, “It’s the guest above you.”

                                                                  They turned the music down, but had another visit from different security guards half an hour later. The man had called to complain again. Mr. Garzon turned the music off. It wasn’t until the early hours of Monday that Mr. Garzon realized Mr. Paddock had been the complainer.

                                                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/stephen-paddock-gambling.html
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                                                                  • slambam
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                                    • 1653

                                                                    #1188
                                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                    definitely not going to be shooting back in that situation.

                                                                    However, some people knew exactly where it was coming from after the first wave or two of bullets. In my posts a 2-3pages ago I quoted a link that has a video with people pointing at the hotel. One lady in particular is pointing seemingly at the exact spot the shooting was coming from. It is like she is looking right at the guy as he fires, she doesn't duck or anything. Also, some drunk idiot in the same video doesn't duck at first and instead gives the shooter double middle-fingers.
                                                                    Can't get the pic to post. Real men of genius thing on facebook about this guy, pretty funny.
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                                                                    • funnyb25
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                                                                      • 07-09-09
                                                                      • 39663

                                                                      #1189
                                                                      Also, a lot of the victims were all in the same vicinity to each other in many places. A few reasons for that. 1. A lot of people ran to the initially shot victims and then were shot due to being in the similar vicinity. 2. None of the people who ran immediately jumping over walls were hit.
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                                                                      • brooks85
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                                        • 44709

                                                                        #1190
                                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                        He was there to play, not to party. The night before the shooting, Mr. Paddock made two complaints to the hotel about noise coming from his downstairs neighbors: Albert Garzon, a restaurant owner visiting from San Diego, and his wife and friends. Mr. Garzon, who was staying in 31-135, directly beneath Mr. Paddock, said security guards knocked on his door around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday and asked him to turn down his music, country songs. When he asked where the complaint was coming from, pointing out that the nearest rooms on either side were far away, the security guard said, “It’s the guest above you.”

                                                                        They turned the music down, but had another visit from different security guards half an hour later. The man had called to complain again. Mr. Garzon turned the music off. It wasn’t until the early hours of Monday that Mr. Garzon realized Mr. Paddock had been the complainer.

                                                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/stephen-paddock-gambling.html
                                                                        that's definitely key info, now we need to know when he brought the guns to the room. I thought he checked in the first day with them so seems he would have planned it before the complaints.
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