Every floor in the Mandalay Bay has a security camera. It would be easy to find out if there was more than one person in his room when the shooting took place.
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I will never lie down when the President of this great country comes to shake my hand! There may be plenty of issues in this country but I will always respect my country, my president and my flag. Shot in the leg or not, I will stand to show my President the respect he deserves!Comment -
most likely why the nut job brother or the gold digging filipino lady never noticed anything cuz they couldnt get their head out of their asses to have any common sense all they saw was dollar signs i find it very hard believe when old saggy tities wasnt giving the happy endings she didnt notice 40 new guns bought within the past yearComment -
sad thing is there are always warning signs for these things and if people had common sense and spoke up these things could be prevented i have no doubts the asian gold digger must have seen this guy going downhill the past few months but because she didnt want lose her cash cow she kept her mouth shut a big FU to the dragon ladyComment -
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Donk do you have a brother?Comment -
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What is funny is they keep talking about how this guy is smart. Seems he shot at fuel towers and even hit it twice. But it didn't blow up. If he would of had a tracer round that shit would of blown sky high. The damage would of been a hell of a lot worse. Anyone that has shot weapons would have know that a tracer round would of sparked it.Comment -
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most bizarre thing is why we did not see flashes out of the gun??????????Comment -
he was shooting down. Those are usually up off the ground. From the distance it was from hotel and the level it was up. He would have to have a ****** up trajectory to hit it. Also just because you shoot something doesn't mean it goes up. What cause gasoline to blow up isn't the gas but the fumes. Your welcome for the chemistry lesson. lolComment -
Nothing more 'Merican than coming up with piss poor excuses and conspiracies for mass murders. Don't change aye, or you know you could.
But then second ammendment, nra, guns are cool so yeah I'll just leave you guys to it. As long as you pray hard that seems to be a problem solver.Comment -
Really doubt anyone else was there. What did he do, leave and Paddock went over to lock the door after. Then get back to business. And like you said, they would know unless they just don't wanna tell us? All the two shooter stuff is dumb to me. Paddock delayed for a while some times, maybe to lock the door, naah. With two, they would have killed way more.Comment -
A lot of great posts from a lot of great posters here. You guys are all thinking... and doing your own assessment and detective work. It's great to see this.
For some odd reason... every time there's a crisis somewhere... we have hundreds of camera phones.... we check out youtube and it gives us plenty of angles.... but we NEVER GET THE ANGLE WE NEED... like evidence where the shooter was. We have plenty of angles of bright lights coming from Mandalay Bay... even strobe lights in rooms. But nothing flickering... flashing near the 32nd floor of the upper right part of the building. If you use the theory there were 20,000 people there.... and let's just say 60/40 in favor of women... 10% of people typically record on their phone... you could even say... 5% would record. Everyone records things.... that means there should be around 1000-2000 recordings... and not everyone will post using YouTube... but... AT LEAST ONE PERSON would have footage of something coming from that side of the building. Yet, there is no evidence that supports this as of today.
You can use the theory that the gunman used a suppressor on ALL OF HIS WEAPONS... In my opinion... I don't know why he would really choose to use one... nor care to use one. You plan on ambushing people anyways... I don't even know if a supressor would come standard on most of those weapons or not? Again... use your own judgement. But, this is when the story gets out of hand... starts to become too perfect.
You can also use the theory he was on medication... he wasn't all there? Well... I never met a person who was "all there" that had the ability to be this calculating... and this precise? Moving a large quantity of weapons and ammunition.... and no one said a word? Furthermore, I believe there are reports now from CBS News that claims hotel personnel came to his room because of a disturbance of some sort within 24 hours prior to the attack. Now, you mean to tell me... while hotel personnel was in communication with him... they didn't notice any odd behavior? When they knocked on the door... he quickly opened it slightly... and had discussion outside the room? So, it wouldn't allow any hotel personnel to view what was inside in his room? Let's face it... I find it hard to believe he moved 16-24 guns... and plenty of rounds of ammunition within 24 hours. So, the weaponry would of been already in his hotel room (supposedly) while speaking to hotel personnel at the time of that disturbance. Which leads me to believe... the CBS News report is either false... or exaggerated. Or, this guy has the best Poker Face in the world. Which is absolute bullsh#$. I'm not buying it. Something isn't right about this report.
I'm not convinced that those are actual crime photos in the hotel room. Looks like a stage setup. Where are the bullet casings? Shouldn't there be around 3,000 or so? We know that 58 people died... and/or 500+ were wounded. So there would be half of a thousand laying in that hotel room or outside the window on the ground somewhere. But, in those crime photos... not much to see? Did the cops use some push brooms to clean up before taking photos? Did they tidy the place up? Let's be realistic here. That hotel room should of looked a lot dirtier... you have hundreds of rounds being fired... (supposedly from media reports)... looked pretty clean to me.
This is why I have issues with these "crisis" tragedies... regardless if you say it was REAL or FALSE... there's so many errors in this story. If the CIA is involved... and again.. I'm just suggesting this... you can write a plan on paper... Do 20-30 test runs in your head. What are we going to do when this happens? Ok if this happens... what are we going to do here? You think you have it all added up. But when you do THE LIVE RUN... there's errors that the public will eventually notice. Now again... this is my opinion.
So far here is my breakdown to this....
Should this of been done during the DAYTIME or NIGHTTIME?
Well the average person will say... a psycho killer always targets people at night. Loves to sneak up on his prey. Really???? Really? Is that it? It's obvious if there's a conspiracy of some sort... you can cover "most things" up at night. If something possibly goes wrong... you can camouflage it later on... make it blend in with something else. During the day time... people see everything. You would have plenty of witnesses. Much easier to diagnose the situation in regards to the public during the day.
The problem with doing this particular event at night... there would be evidence of FLASHING.. SPARKING... give me SOMETHING from the 32nd floor area. But... we see nothing. Not one witness claims they saw anything coming from that area of the hotel. Which... is extremely odd.
Let's use the story of a wealthy 64 year old man that's a loner and has a gambling problem.
Seems about right when we used this story as a rough draft and did the test runs in our head. Yeah... the public should believe it. We never used a "gambling disorder" before. Who writes this sh#$? Now, let's throw in medication use... and he had a psychological disorder into the mix. But, I managed to live an unscathed life for 64 years. I just now cracked under pressure??!! Hey believe what you want... the story doesn't add up to me.
If the public still doesn't believe it 3-4 days after the shooting... let's throw extra sh#$ in there. 20-30 guns and ammunition at his other properties. Since he gambles... he was a GREAT BLUFFER. Amazing poker face.
Other things to consider.....
Where are the reports of the gun ranges he used to test these weapons? Did he test them on his property? Anyone going to come forward and say... yep I heard him one day testing out these high powered assault weapons... it freaked the sh#$ out of me. This man (supposedly) caused the worst violence ever! You think he just started shooting LIVE... without practice? His brother claims... "I didn't think he ever owned a gun?" No military weaponry background.
Again... because of this BS pieced together story... there's no telling where the bullets came from? Did they come from 32 floors in the air? Did they come from 4-5 floors in the air? Did they come from another area? My conclusion is simple... as of right now... I don't believe this 64 year old did it.Comment -
TMS-- for it to be a fake crime scene... the conspiracy would be far too widespread, meaning too many people involved, and regular people, such as lvpd officers.Comment -
Brooks, you're calling this guy stupid, but think of it this way....
you and your brethren will sympathize with all sorts of conspiracy theories that suggest this was done to take 2nd amendment rights away... but you would never consider a conspiracy that suggests this was done by the NRA to increase gun sales.
Nothing has ever been proposed by Obama or any other democrat to take away 2nd amendment rights.
Everytime something like this happens, and everytime gun control is debated in govt, gun sales SOAR.
Gun sales are down under Trump. More guns were sold while Obama was president than any time before in history.Comment -
yes accurate ones.
Remember grease, you're the same guy who believed in the 9/11 story. You don't like to hear this but you are in the sheep pen, hiding in the middle of the herd.
Just like you were wrong on the constitution, in this thread, you are wrong here. You have an incredible trend of being wrong. Do you enjoy going through life saying things that are not true? You remind me of rkelly, if it sounds good in your head you say it... the problem is it is NEVER true.Comment -
yes my response of facts. You got me there... you clown lol truly enjoy you posting again.
The constitution thing earlier was hilarious and stupid, thanks for the entertainment. Also, you'll never NOT be the guy who believed the 9/11 story. That's hilariously pathetic but I'm sure you don't get it.
and then you talk conspiracy theories... how do you not see what a clown you are?\
oh and personal favorite of mine... grease's solution of how USA till solve a 100+ trillion dollar debt?
Hope..... lol that was your answer... silly little sheep. You've clearly tricked yourself into thinking you know what is going on.Last edited by brooks85; 10-05-17, 09:12 AM.Comment -
Classic Brooks ^^^
Stop junking up the thread--I am done with you today.Comment -
maybe you can try "hoping" I'll go away... lol good luckComment -
nah.... he was just stockin' up for later with the additional drinks....
and, knowing how us old, out of shape guys do it, and the tiny portions on room service in vegas, probably ordered both meals for himself.... when my wife and I order room service, it's almost always three entrees.....
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That food order sounds damn good right now. Granted, as someone said, it was the 27th. Haven't ate in a minute, but a bagel and a burger sounds great right now.Comment -
I'm craving burgers, too....
furrburgers!
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NPH made that movie, and he's a homo. Go figure.Comment -
he must've gotten some strange at some point, as reports are out that they're lookin' for "another female" who was in his presence in the last few hours of his life.....
imagine being that hooker.....
in womanly voice: "yah, I gave him a traditional rub n tug, but I didn't see any guns.... well, other than the one "gun" I had in my mouth for 3 1/2 minutes....."Comment
