Why don't you hear people complaining about BLACK PRIVILEGE in sports?

[thomorino]

I am assuming you do not have a medical degree so you probably cannot explain why doctors fail to give black patients the same care they give white patients. The issue is not so much racist judges as racial bias. The same reason cops shoot unarmed blacks but not unarmed whites.

There are more whites killed by cops than blacks every year, stop watching CNN and reading stupid liberal studies.

[R40]

There are more whites killed by cops than blacks every year, stop watching CNN and reading stupid liberal studies.

Well, blacks are only 12% of the population. Remember that argument?

[R40]

Where did you get your law degree The Morono? The University of Phoenix? I'd hate to have you represent me. You make the dumbest fukk arguments. I hope you just do paperwork.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Well, blacks are only 12% of the population. Remember that argument?

12% of the population but how much of the actual crimes committed? Blacks are involved in situations/confrontations with cops way more than asians for example at a disproportionate level

You'd have to dig deeper to get a true respresentation....just saying blacks 12% of the population doesn't cut it and you know that

[dlowilly]

Well, blacks are only 12% of the population. Remember that argument?

And they commit a severely disproportionate amount of crime and have disproportionately more interactions with police, and please don't troll out on us and try to say it's from racial profiling traffic stops.

I am trying to take you seriously but you are in serious danger of being seen as a libtarded troll. What's with the weird prejudice for white southern males while you have nascar in ur avatar? You a pro troll bro? Hey, if you want to hate on the south or profess your self guilt if you are actually white and southern be my guest just do it in another thread, doesn't have anything to do with this one.

Why would you tell me I have no point in this thread in the first place? You don't need to make illogical emotional accusations because someone is disagreeing with you. The point is no one says anything about unquestionable dominance of the NBA and NFL by blacks, but when they underperform in other areas we hear excuses and accusations that they are being held back. DO you disagree with this? I want to hear an explanation from the left for this sports dominance that doesn't destroy the argument that whites have privilege or are keeping them down in other areas. I haven't and I won't, because the fact that they can dominate in a formerly white dominated area proves that argument is false.

[R40]

And they commit a severely disproportionate amount of crime and have disproportionately more interactions with police, and please don't troll out on us and try to say it's from racial profiling traffic stops.

I am trying to take you seriously but you are in serious danger of being seen as a libtarded troll. What's with the weird prejudice for white southern males while you have nascar in ur avatar? You a pro troll bro? Hey, if you want to hate on the south or profess your self guilt if you are actually white and southern be my guest just do it in another thread, doesn't have anything to do with this one.

Why would you tell me I have no point in this thread in the first place? You don't need to make illogical emotional accusations because someone is disagreeing with you. The point is no one says anything about unquestionable dominance of the NBA and NFL by blacks, but when they underperform in other areas we hear excuses and accusations that they are being held back. DO you disagree with this? I want to hear an explanation from the left for this sports dominance that doesn't destroy the argument that whites have privilege or are keeping them down in other areas. I haven't and I won't, because the fact that they can dominate in a formerly white dominated area proves that argument is false.

NASCAR is not an exclusively Southern sport and I love me some NASCAR. Also, I am from the South.

Yes, they do a disproportionately large amount of crime because they are the poorest. That is how it works.

If they were making 60K, they wouldn't be doing any crimes.

The reason they dominate in sports is obvious as is the reason they underperform whites. Whites run society and don't like blacks. Never have and probably never will.

I have not expressed any prejudice toward Southern whites. They are dying off with drugs, alcohol and suicide and losing their jobs at very rapid rates which is why they will be soon joining the black man in social class. It's just a fact although maybe a little politically incorrect to point it out.

[R40]

12% of the population but how much of the actual crimes committed? Blacks are involved in situations/confrontations with cops way more than asians for example at a disproportionate level

You'd have to dig deeper to get a true respresentation....just saying blacks 12% of the population doesn't cut it and you know that

The Morono said that whites get killed more by cops than blacks. That is to be expected. They only make up 12% of the population. Whites are going to get killed by cops more.

[thomorino]

Where did you get your law degree The Morono? The University of Phoenix? I'd hate to have you represent me. You make the dumbest fukk arguments. I hope you just do paperwork.

Lol you clown you've been rolled many times in this argument, are you still arguing that topbet's lines are horrible because their first 5's are off by 5 cents, lmao. African Americans committ 55% of all violent crimes according to federal crime statistics so of course they are more likely to get shot by police than whites, they have far more violent encounters with police. Do the math little buddy, and please don't find a study from the Obama institute that you try to use to support another horrible liberal argument.

Did you even go to college.

[thomorino]

The Morono said that whites get killed more by cops than blacks. That is to be expected. They only make up 12% of the population. Whites are going to get killed by cops more.

Exactly, these liberal clowns just watch CNN all day and repeat this garbage without thinking it through. Like maybe Blacks get worse sentences because most blacks who commit violent crimes have shitty public defenders, well more whites have enough money to afford better representation.

[R40]

Exactly, these liberal clowns just watch CNN all day and repeat this garbage without thinking it through. Like maybe Blacks get worse sentences because most blacks who commit violent crimes have shitty public defenders, well more whites have enough money to afford better representation.

The Morono is a professional gambler that knows nothing about gambling and a lawyer completely ignorant of any argument being made by him or any other person.

[thomorino]

Now just imagine this. What if the entire continent of Africa went about systematically finding its best athlete in every American sport and trained them from the age of 5 the way we and the Europeans do and then exported them to the US. There would not be job one to be had by a white man in professional sports. They would take every last one.

I was being sarcastic responding to yet another one of your horrendous arguments. The best soccer teams in the world have been from poor countries over the last 30 years, look at Argentina and Brazil, both countries that were not well of in the 80s and 90s when their teams dominated. The only sport that is dominated by blacks is basketball, and that can be explained by how many blacks start playing at a young age. Most of the great soccer players in south america and many poor countries have also come from poor families.

[dlowilly]

NASCAR is not an exclusively Southern sport and I love me some NASCAR.

Yes, they do a disproportionately large amount of crime because they are the poorest. That is how it works.

If they were making 60K, they wouldn't be doing any crimes.

The reason they dominate in sports is obvious as is the reason they underperform whites. Whites run society and don't like blacks. Never have and probably never will.

No. That is one of the biggest false narratives out there. So many insist that the environment creates the individual without ever objectively considering the individuals created that environment. I will ask again, if these "racist barriers" are to blame for these awful environments, why have these environments only gotten worse in the absence of the supposed cause?

As for your last statement that whites run society and don't like blacks, well now you are getting to the crux of the issue and the point of my thread. If blacks were and are being held down in school and business, why haven't they been in sports? If they have dominated at sports because they are more talented at sports than whites, why can't it be that whites are more talented at school and business or even coaching, instead of the unfounded but repeated like a zombie view that whitey is keeping them down? A meritocracy in sports where they have been able to dominate but oppression in other areas cannot exist together. Either blacks and whites are talented at different things or whites have unfair privilege in school and business while blacks have unfair privilege in sports.

[R40]

I was being sarcastic responding to yet another one of your horrendous arguments. The best soccer teams in the world have been from poor countries over the last 30 years, look at Argentina and Brazil, both countries that were not well of in the 80s and 90s when their teams dominated. The only sport that is dominated by blacks is basketball, and that can be explained by how many blacks start playing at a young age. Most of the great soccer players in south america and many poor countries have also come from poor families.

Football is dominated by blacks. They play all the skill positions and the white fat guys block and get in the way on defense. Track is dominated by blacks. Hockey not so much.

[R40]

No. That is one of the biggest false narratives out there. So many insist that the environment creates the individual without ever objectively considering the individuals created that environment. I will ask again, if these "racist barriers" are to blame for these awful environments, why have these environments only gotten worse in the absence of the supposed cause?

As for your last statement that whites run society and don't like blacks, well now you are getting to the crux of the issue and the point of my thread. If blacks were and are being held down in school and business, why haven't they been in sports? If they have dominated at sports because they are more talented at sports than whites, why can't it be that whites are more talented at school and business or even coaching, instead of the unfounded but repeated like a zombie view that whitey is keeping them down? A meritocracy in sports where they have been able to dominate but oppression in other areas cannot exist together. Either blacks and whites are talented at different things or whites have unfair privilege in school and business while blacks have unfair privilege in sports.

I think the place you wanted to go with this is that blacks are superior at sports so whites must be superior intellectually. Might actually be some small amount of truth to it. But the outcome of blacks in America is dominated by the fact that they were slaves and have been systematically dominated by whites through various methods. This is something you will not admit even though it is obvious.

[thomorino]

Football is dominated by blacks. They play all the skill positions and the white fat guys block and get in the way on defense. Track is dominated by blacks. Hockey not so much.

Another great argument. Football is dominated by blacks. Except for the quarterback position, offensive line, defensive line, linebacker, kicker, and punter. There has never been any point in the NFL when more than 20% of the quarterbacks have been black.

[dlowilly]

I was being sarcastic responding to yet another one of your horrendous arguments. The best soccer teams in the world have been from poor countries over the last 30 years, look at Argentina and Brazil, both countries that were not well of in the 80s and 90s when their teams dominated. The only sport that is dominated by blacks is basketball, and that can be explained by how many blacks start playing at a young age. Most of the great soccer players in south america and many poor countries have also come from poor families.

Have to disagree with your last sentence though. No matter how much you play basketball from an early age, you will either be able to jump high and run fast or you won't. You can slightly improve through training but statistically 0 white kids will ever be as good as Lebron James even if they followed him around from birth and did double the shots, sprints, and passing drills.

I agree though playing from an early age is much more formative than being in a privileged environment, especially with soccer.

[R40]

Another great argument. Football is dominated by blacks. Except for the quarterback position, offensive line, defensive line, linebacker, kicker, and punter. There has never been any point in the NFL when more than 20% of the quarterbacks have been black.

You take an NFL team with a white RB and WRs and DBs. I'll take the team with black RBs, WRs and DBs. I will win 100% of the time.

[thomorino]

Have to disagree with your last sentence though. No matter how much you play basketball from an early age, you will either be able to jump high and run fast or you won't. You can slightly improve through training but statistically 0 white kids will ever be as good as Lebron James even if they followed him around from birth and did double the shots, sprints, and passing drills.

I agree though playing from an early age is much more formative than being in a privileged environment, especially with soccer.

Brent Barry has a better vertical than Lebron, no way Lebron could dunk from the foul line. Lebron is obviously a much better athlete than Barry, but there are whites that can jump higher and farther. Obviously the average black is more athletic than the average white in the United States, but why that is is tough to say.

[dlowilly]

Brent Barry has a better vertical than Lebron, no way Lebron could dunk from the foul line. Lebron is obviously a much better athlete than Barry, but there are whites that can jump higher and farther. Obviously the average black is more athletic than the average white in the United States, but why that is is tough to say.

Morino I agree with you on a lot but why blacks are more athletic is not tough to say. It's the same reason Pit Bulls are more athletic than basset hounds.

[dlowilly]

I think the place you wanted to go with this is that blacks are superior at sports so whites must be superior intellectually. Might actually be some small amount of truth to it. But the outcome of blacks in America is dominated by the fact that they were slaves and have been systematically dominated by whites through various methods. This is something you will not admit even though it is obvious.

It isn't a small amount of truth, it is obvious and supported with evidence across cultures around the world.

You won't answer but I will ask again. If the plight of black people in America is due to their history of oppression in this country, why do blacks have the same plight of poverty and low scholastic aptitude in every culture outside of America? African Americans in this "oppressive racist" society actually outperform other black cultures that have never coexisted with whites.

[R40]

It isn't a small amount of truth, it is obvious and supported with evidence across cultures around the world.

You won't answer but I will ask again. If the plight of black people in America is due to their history of oppression in this country, why do blacks have the same plight of poverty and low scholastic aptitude in every culture outside of America? African Americans in this "oppressive racist" society actually outperform other black cultures that have never coexisted with whites.

I don't believe it has ever been established that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites.

Whites in Russia have never done particularly well. I am sure that whites believe they are vastly superior to Indians but the Mayans had projected eclipses far into the future when whites were barbarians and still sharpening sticks and the Arabs were doing algebra.

There is a lot more to societal outcomes than just race as you can see from the Chinese.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Lol I stopped reading when you said black are underrepresented in baseball - are you joking. Blacks make up about 6% of the US population, I don't know the exact numbers but significantly more than 12% of MLB players are african american. The idea that black kids don't have many options is ridiculous, they have the same opportunities as everyone else, 80% of the poor people in the US are white. The biggest problem facing the black community is single parent families, not racism or lack of opportunity - liberal bullshit at its best.

You obviously should do more reading because your numbers are the exact opposite. Blacks make up 13.3% of the population but only make up 7.7% of baseball. That, by definition is underrepresented. Unless your head has been in the sand, you should know that baseball has had problems with race the last 30 years. African Americans were about 18% and Latino's were about 14% but if you look closely, they both went on the decline if you take out the Dominican element.

Dominicans dominate MLB. 1/4 of MLB is from outside the US with the great majority being one small country... Dominican Republic population 10.5 million. On the same island of Hispaniola is Haiti and you can look to that as the example of opportunity. There are a shitload of talented Haitians that never get looked at over there starting in youth leagues because of racial inequality. They can't get legal papers to ever get to the United States. They face discrimination in DR and the US. 83 Dominican players in MLB and only one Migel Sano has come out to admit Haitian heritage. If you are labeled Haitian in DR, you are fukked as a baseball player.

Of course, we all have the same opportunities BUT it is naive to think that an inner city black kid is going to just pick up baseball without someone teaching him. We all have to learn from someone. Baseball had forgotten it's outreach to inner city youths and the numbers show it. Just recently they've raised their efforts and the numbers of black kids is going up noticeably now. How did Arthur Ashe get good at tennis? How about Serena Williams or Tiger Woods? Someone had to teach them... You don't need much specialize training to run track, dunk a basketball or catch a football. It's called ACCESS.

And Why the fukk when anyone has an opinion, you idiots have to shout out liberal, conservative, left, right bullshit? Think for your damn self. I'm neither liberal or conservative, left or right, republican or democrat. Fukk off, you standing proud on your labels. This has nothing to do with liberalism. It's common fukkking sense. Try getting some.

[Mac4Lyfe]

It isn't a small amount of truth, it is obvious and supported with evidence across cultures around the world.
You won't answer but I will ask again. If the plight of black people in America is due to their history of oppression in this country, why do blacks have the same plight of poverty and low scholastic aptitude in every culture outside of America? African Americans in this "oppressive racist" society actually outperform other black cultures that have never coexisted with whites.

Do you really want to know? I think you're just a fukkking troll that doesn't give a shit about the plight of man, let alone black men but here's an interesting read.

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-black-people-less-financially-successful-globally

What other culture outside of America? The only other place to look is Africa. Maybe you should study Africa or here's an idea, why not take a trip to Africa? I'd bet your broke ass has never been near Africa and have no idea the wealth that is over there despite the rape and pillage of Europeans on that continent. Here's a top list of places you should google map because you will never go there, I'm positive.

Equatorial GuineaSeychellesMauritiusGabonBotswanaAl geriaLibyaSouth AfricaEgyptNamibiaTunisiaSwazilandMorocc oAngolaCongoCape VerdeNigeriaGhana

I have friends that live in several of these countries and they live better than your broke, ignorant ass.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Since you mentioned low scholastic aptitude... As if you know the definition???

• Imhotep
• Benjamin Banneker
• W. E. B. Du Bois
• Charles R. Drew
• Cheikh Anta Diop
• Daniel Hale Williams
• John Henrik Clarke
• Théophile Obenga
• Ivan Van Sertima
• Alexander Pushkin
• Emmett Chappelle
• Ernest Everett Just

[chargers4222]

Hey moron, only half the African-American population is eligible to play in major league baseball since women can't play in the league, the 13.3% number is irrelevant, we're talking closer to 6.5%. Try again.

Nearly 9% of MLB players are African American so I'd say African Americans are fairly well represented in MLB - nice try.

I refuse to accept that this was a serious comment. There is no way you're not trolling me. Unbelievable.

[bigtymer56]

I refuse to accept that this was a serious comment. There is no way you're not trolling me. Unbelievable.

Guess they don't teach match or logic in law school.

[ByeShea]

I have friends that live in several of these countries and they live better than your broke, ignorant ass.

Sorry, ACoochy doesn't live in any of those countries. Plus, he don't live so good.

[thomorino]

You obviously should do more reading because your numbers are the exact opposite. Blacks make up 13.3% of the population but only make up 7.7% of baseball. That, by definition is underrepresented. Unless your head has been in the sand, you should know that baseball has had problems with race the last 30 years. African Americans were about 18% and Latino's were about 14% but if you look closely, they both went on the decline if you take out the Dominican element.

Dominicans dominate MLB. 1/4 of MLB is from outside the US with the great majority being one small country... Dominican Republic population 10.5 million. On the same island of Hispaniola is Haiti and you can look to that as the example of opportunity. There are a shitload of talented Haitians that never get looked at over there starting in youth leagues because of racial inequality. They can't get legal papers to ever get to the United States. They face discrimination in DR and the US. 83 Dominican players in MLB and only one Migel Sano has come out to admit Haitian heritage. If you are labeled Haitian in DR, you are fukked as a baseball player.

Of course, we all have the same opportunities BUT it is naive to think that an inner city black kid is going to just pick up baseball without someone teaching him. We all have to learn from someone. Baseball had forgotten it's outreach to inner city youths and the numbers show it. Just recently they've raised their efforts and the numbers of black kids is going up noticeably now. How did Arthur Ashe get good at tennis? How about Serena Williams or Tiger Woods? Someone had to teach them... You don't need much specialize training to run track, dunk a basketball or catch a football. It's called ACCESS.

And Why the fukk when anyone has an opinion, you idiots have to shout out liberal, conservative, left, right bullshit? Think for your damn self. I'm neither liberal or conservative, left or right, republican or democrat. Fukk off, you standing proud on your labels. This has nothing to do with liberalism. It's common fukkking sense. Try getting some.

If 13% of the US population is african-americans than only 6.5% of the US population is eligible to play in the majors since roughly half those people are women. So the real numbers are as follows. Roughly 6.5% of the African-American population is male and yet nearly 8% of players are black and you'd expect nearly 12% of the players to be black since there are more women than men in the United States. The number of blacks in baseball is less than 2-3% less than what you would expect.

[texhooper]

You morons are still talking about this?

[dlowilly]

Do you really want to know? I think you're just a fukkking troll that doesn't give a shit about the plight of man, let alone black men but here's an interesting read.

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-black-people-less-financially-successful-globally

What other culture outside of America? The only other place to look is Africa. Maybe you should study Africa or here's an idea, why not take a trip to Africa? I'd bet your broke ass has never been near Africa and have no idea the wealth that is over there despite the rape and pillage of Europeans on that continent. Here's a top list of places you should google map because you will never go there, I'm positive.

Equatorial GuineaSeychellesMauritiusGabonBotswanaAl geriaLibyaSouth AfricaEgyptNamibiaTunisiaSwazilandMorocc oAngolaCongoCape VerdeNigeriaGhana

I have friends that live in several of these countries and they live better than your broke, ignorant ass.

Since you mentioned low scholastic aptitude... As if you know the definition???

• Imhotep
• Benjamin Banneker
• W. E. B. Du Bois
• Charles R. Drew
• Cheikh Anta Diop
• Daniel Hale Williams
• John Henrik Clarke
• Théophile Obenga
• Ivan Van Sertima
• Alexander Pushkin
• Emmett Chappelle
• Ernest Everett Just

Attention posters, attention! Clean up in Players Talk...Mac4lyfe has thrown some extra stinky crap against the wall that needs to be disinfected and sanitized

I don't have time to clean up this mess right now but i will get to it. Pathetic logically challenged comedy but it is mac4lyfe Guy wants to argue black cultures around the world don't have problems in education and economics

[Mac4Lyfe]

If 13% of the US population is african-americans than only 6.5% of the US population is eligible to play in the majors since roughly half those people are women. So the real numbers are as follows. Roughly 6.5% of the African-American population is male and yet nearly 8% of players are black and you'd expect nearly 12% of the players to be black since there are more women than men in the United States. The number of blacks in baseball is less than 2-3% less than what you would expect.

^^^ Are you really this fukking dumb??? Damn. Why is it that all you ignorant posters (especially the OP) don't have a lick of common fukking sense? I really need to just put you idiots on ignore because you are too dumb and close minded to learn anything. Your racist views have blinded you to think straight.

Dumb ass alert - if you use women in your equation for blacks THEN you will also have to use women for Whites.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Attention posters, attention! Clean up in Players Talk...

So says the guy who is clearly an alter of another SBR poster that got banned here a couple of years ago. Your game was cleaned up years ago and yet you come back here with another identity and are still posting bullshit. You contribute nothing in this forum but hate and bigotry. You are not here to gamble, so why are you here? Why not spread your bullshit rhetoric somewhere else? Or did you get banned at alt-right sites too?

[packerd_00]

Its a fair point,seems to be the in thing to make fun of white guys though,saying we suck at Basketball and have two left feet.I blame white Libtards for a lot of it to though.

[thomorino]

So says the guy who is clearly an alter of another SBR poster that got banned here a couple of years ago. Your game was cleaned up years ago and yet you come back here with another identity and are still posting bullshit. You contribute nothing in this forum but hate and bigotry. You are not here to gamble, so why are you here? Why not spread your bullshit rhetoric somewhere else? Or did you get banned at alt-right sites too?

LMAO, are you really this fuckking dumb, I DID USE THE SAME RATIO FOR BOTH WHITES AND BLACKS. Always wondered who was dumb enough to vote for Hillary Clinton.

[thomorino]

Morino I agree with you on a lot but why blacks are more athletic is not tough to say. It's the same reason Pit Bulls are more athletic than basset hounds.

Yeah I don't know of any link between size and athleticism. Some big guys are atheltic some are not, same for smaller people