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  • raydog
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-07-07
    • 6984

    #36
    i asked judge for an hour to hour ML history of the game. if he posts it, there should be no more problems. we will see what was up. but its important to see the times of the bets and the ml's throughout the day. when its the only nba game on your board, i would think they would be a little more on top of things so im ruling out sleeping on a ML and being that late on a movement.(god i would hope anyways) i expect to see that # in the -340 to -350 area before the drop, since he said the price they meant to post was -365.

    there is a reason why ruca bet -285 at another site. bfc was higher at that time and the line did nothing but go up all day. did he really think the ML was going down when the line went up? no, he saw a bad line and dumped his account on it, as did so many others they say.

    raiders, when you post a # that is, on avg. 90cents lower than everyone else and 100cents off of what you meant to type in, that is a bad line. also, nobody beats a pinny 1st half basketball line in the -300 area by 60cents. thats a bad line and obvious mistake.
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    • diogee
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-11-08
      • 19477

      #37
      Raydog the -285 he bet was from the day before.

      Agree with the last paragraph as well...everyone saying it isn't a bad line since the winning % is only 6% different to break even.
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      • playinragz
        SBR Sharp
        • 01-23-08
        • 290

        #38
        Wow you guys bitch like women. The bet was cancelled before action.. So shut the **** up!!! Hey call the nfl about the sd. Pitt game if yah wanna complain about a "fix" at least thats legit.. Oh and just in case your wondering anytime you send money to a unsecure place on the planet , yah might not get it back... Hahahaah whaaa whaa whaaa
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        • tomcowley
          SBR MVP
          • 10-01-07
          • 1129

          #39
          Let's see the full line history with timestamps. It should be obvious one way or the other.
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          • xyz
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-14-08
            • 521

            #40
            It looks like all 46 accounts got paid on this wager. I saw the update on the EOG thread.
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            • sickler
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-05-08
              • 15006

              #41




              Suppose nobody should have bet Faber because it was obviously a bad line, even when it was simply an opinionated line.

              Hmmmmmmm
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              • HedgeHog
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-11-07
                • 10128

                #42
                Originally posted by xyz
                It looks like all 46 accounts got paid on this wager. I saw the update on the EOG thread.


                And they should be paid, seriously.



                Not so seriously, thank God 5* Stiff brought this to our attention--we need upstanding gambling advocates on our side.
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                • RiverMan
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 11-30-06
                  • 66

                  #43
                  their website looks like a SCAM to me.
                  Why would anyone ever want to play at this book???? IT"s just odd.
                  It's a small time Creditshop , this book shouldn't even be at D.
                  AVOID THIS SCAM BOOK MAN .
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                  • SBR Lou
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-02-07
                    • 37863

                    #44
                    It's worth noting that BetFirstClass (SBR Rating D) appears to have credited back players the winnings for the bets canceled prior to the event beginning:

                    Here's SBR Odds archives for Denver 1H ML:

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                    • tomcowley
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-01-07
                      • 1129

                      #45
                      We need theirs too.
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                      • magnavox
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-14-05
                        • 575

                        #46
                        It is obvious they fell asleep at the wheel. That's why everyone got paid. Same is expected in the future. Bad line is a different matter.
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                        • JELLYBEAN
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 01-14-07
                          • 303

                          #47
                          why does anyone play at these low tier shit books. Use the big boys or find a solid local.
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                          • j0hnnyv
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-06-09
                            • 3620

                            #48
                            this books a piece of garbage. a fukn trashbag.
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                            • trixtrix
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-13-06
                              • 1897

                              #49
                              if that line was on urijah faber vs. jens pulver that took place on jan-25-9 then it would be a WEC fight, NOT UFC fight

                              either way, i'm surprised to hear that BFC offer mma odds, judge or anyone shilling for BFC what are the limits on these bouts?
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                              • 5 star bomb
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-12-07
                                • 5370

                                #50
                                I wouldnt play at this book....
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                                • FIRST CLASS
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 08-28-08
                                  • 168

                                  #51
                                  ALL WAGERS WERE PAID IN FULL

                                  even though, they were all cancelled 1.5 hrs Prior to Tip

                                  Meaning the player's were RISKING 0 to WIN XXX amount

                                  BUT, ALL WAGERS WERE PAID IN FULL . . . .


                                  BFC
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                                  • flyingillini
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 41219

                                    #52
                                    Now that is what I call First Class treatment. God Bless Betfirstclass
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                                    • SSLP
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-29-08
                                      • 5232

                                      #53
                                      Hey man , they did the right thing sometimes small books will go the xtra mile to make people feel good and sometimes big books dont care cuz no matter what they do.. people will always follow the big name
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                                      • flyingillini
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-06-06
                                        • 41219

                                        #54
                                        If ese SSLP endorses BFC then they must be ok. I would never use them, I only use one book but ese SSLP knows what he is talking about. All praise to be SSLP
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                                        • 5 star bomb
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-12-07
                                          • 5370

                                          #55
                                          they paid back all the wagers on that bet.... all 2 of the wagers
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                                          • SSLP
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-29-08
                                            • 5232

                                            #56
                                            i never endorse a book illini I just add my 2 cents.

                                            I will never ever reccomend a book not even A rated or D rated or the ones i do business with.

                                            I am here to post and have fun not endorse anyone anywere . But BFC has beat the odds about one year ago everyone labeled them a scam shop and it seems to be B rated books got more complaints than BFC last season.
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                                            • flyingillini
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-06-06
                                              • 41219

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by SSLP
                                              i never endorse a book illini I just add my 2 cents.

                                              I will never ever reccomend a book not even A rated or D rated or the ones i do business with.

                                              I am here to post and have fun not endorse anyone anywere . But BFC has beat the odds about one year ago everyone labeled them a scam shop and it seems to be B rated books got more complaints than BFC last season.
                                              ORALE, I wouldn't even think about playing at a book that has gamecities.com software, I only play at the best... Orale SSLP.. ayo for yayo all in my nasal
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                                              • Justin7
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-31-06
                                                • 8577

                                                #58
                                                Was that a fair price at one time, but line moves made it look bad? Or was it bad from the get-go?

                                                And how could 46 people "empty their accounts" on the same bet without an oddsmaker changing the line?
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                                                • SBR Lou
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-02-07
                                                  • 37863

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Justin7
                                                  Was that a fair price at one time, but line moves made it look bad? Or was it bad from the get-go?

                                                  And how could 46 people "empty their accounts" on the same bet without an oddsmaker changing the line?
                                                  It was fair at one point, the line continued to move leading up to the game.

                                                  Also, this book has marketed itself as offering better, 'opinionated' lines at times, so even if they were offering -265 while others may have moved to -300 it obviously didn't scream "bad line".

                                                  I would be interested to know when the line was hung, what it opened at BFC at, and if it ever moved at all prior to the bets being canceled.

                                                  Here is Pin/5dimes/Jazz history leading up to game..

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                                                  • Justin7
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                    • 8577

                                                    #60
                                                    This wasn't a bad line. This was BFC asleep at the wheel.

                                                    The bet should stand.
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                                                    • trixtrix
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 04-13-06
                                                      • 1897

                                                      #61
                                                      i'm not even sure how bfc distinguish between the two here: if pinny hangs -831, and bfc hangs -650 its an OPINIONATED line that's correct; but if pinny hangs -320, and bfc hangs -265 its obv an ERRANT line?
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                                                      • tomcowley
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-01-07
                                                        • 1129

                                                        #62
                                                        By whether or not they won the market, obv.
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