Debate #2 tonight : Trump vs clinton live thread

[Thor4140]

It sounds like Hillary keeps forgetting her talking points and getting lost. Are her meds wearing off or something?

It actually sounds like u have Trumps nuts in your mouth.

[pavyracer]

Newest polls have Hillary winning by a landslide.

[Mac4Lyfe]

You, I and many others who have operated under clearances are free to 'delete' emails because we access them on secured networks, with admins implementing retention policies to comply with applicable laws and ensure our 'deleted' emails are retained as needed. Setting up your private server puts the burden of retention on you instead, and when you don't retain it, you're violating those laws.

Considering the all-but-certainty that her team reacted to the subpoena by ensuring records were erased (instead of attempting to recover them), it's a fairly relevant condemnation of her dishonesty.

Totally incorrect. There was no law preventing you, I or Hillary from setting up our own private server. In fact, I had one before most people even knew what email was.

Bottom line, can you prove that she INTENTIONALLY disseminated classified information for profit or gain or to hurt the US? The Mishandling of classified information IS NOT A FELONY without intent. What is your point?

[BetweenHerCheeks]

Tko by donnie t!

[DwightShrute]

avatar of the year

[turkkatarian]

avatar of the year

Amazing 4 sure

[chico2663]

Totally incorrect. There was no law preventing you, I or Hillary from setting up our own private server. In fact, I had one before most people even knew what email was.

Bottom line, can you prove that she INTENTIONALLY disseminated classified information for profit or gain or to hurt the US? The Mishandling of classified information IS NOT A FELONY without intent. What is your point?

That is why comey didn't bring charges. No one can prove what is in someone's mind.

[chico2663]

[Triple_D_Bet]

Totally incorrect. There was no law preventing you, I or Hillary from setting up our own private server. In fact, I had one before most people even knew what email was.

Bottom line, can you prove that she INTENTIONALLY disseminated classified information for profit or gain or to hurt the US? The Mishandling of classified information IS NOT A FELONY without intent. What is your point?

I never claimed the private server was illegal; I said that doing so and not retaining emails as required by law was illegal, as most things against the law tend to be...

Similarly, I'm not claiming it was a felony, deserves prison time or anything similar. My point is summed up in my last sentence: that her actions and reactions are a condemnation of her dishonesty.

[chico2663]

I never claimed the private server was illegal; I said that doing so and not retaining emails as required by law was illegal, as most things against the law tend to be...

Similarly, I'm not claiming it was a felony, deserves prison time or anything similar. My point is summed up in my last sentence: that her actions and reactions are a condemnation of her dishonesty.

if it is over 3 years than she doesn't have to keep it,

[chico2663]

It is why when they asked the general to produce his he told them he had no clue where they were. Nothing they can do.

[Triple_D_Bet]

if it is over 3 years than she doesn't have to keep it,

Sounds plausible, but doesn't appear to have been the case for many emails. Regardless of required retention times, I think we can agree that a subpoena requiring them requires you not to delete them, and that reacting to one by ensuring you've destroyed what the subpoena is asking for is dishonest, right?

[Andy117]

Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14m14 minutes ago
Trump is tanking on foreign policy… This is actually an improvement from Debate #1.

[chico2663]

Sounds plausible, but doesn't appear to have been the case for many emails. Regardless of required retention times, I think we can agree that a subpoena requiring them requires you not to delete them, and that reacting to one by ensuring you've destroyed what the subpoena is asking for is dishonest, right?

problem with your thesis is because they don't know when they were deleted.But if they can prove they asked for them and then she deleted them than that can be criminally charged

[chico2663]

Think trump would be good for my energy stocks

[Triple_D_Bet]

problem with your thesis is because they don't know when they were deleted.

They haven't proven in a court of law when they were deleted; the circumstantial evidence that her staffer asked for advice on and used software to erase them is more than enough in my mind to paint the most-likely scenario.

It's a different story if she was an otherwise honest person, but this is one of so many incidents....when everything someone does paints the same picture, the obvious conclusion is usually the correct one.

[Andy117]

And Trump is buying Chinese steel, it's an absolute disgrace.

[Russian Rocket]

Good to see Trump gaining some momentum in tonight's debate

[pilebuck13]

I feel like I'm watching bum Gardner vs David price in October it's obvious trump is absolutely throttling her but he's just as fuked up

[turkkatarian]

Crooked Hillary Lying Clinton

[chico2663]

They haven't proven in a court of law when they were deleted; the circumstantial evidence that her staffer asked for advice on and used software to erase them is more than enough in my mind to paint the most-likely scenario.

It's a different story if she was an otherwise honest person, but this is one of so many incidents....when everything someone does paints the same picture, the obvious conclusion is usually the correct one.

donk can provide better legal answers but i will tell you whata friend that is a lawyer for the eoc told me. He said they would have them take the 5th because if the govt doesn't feel the like what you produce than they try to get back at you. He says people are vindictive. Just think of people that eveidence or dna proves someone is innocent but the prosecutor doesn't want to allow it.

[d2bets]

I think it's interesting that Donald Trump doesn't think that Mike Pence wants to knock out ISIS. I wonder what Pence thinks about that.

[DwightShrute]

he simply told people what most already knew... she is incompetent and nothing will change is shes elected

TRUMP WON hands down!

[jjgold]

Trump won easy

[thetrinity]

I about died when he went on that spiel about Abe lincoln

[d2bets]

I about died when he went on that spiel about Abe lincoln

I wonder if that really was a Lincoln line. Gotta get the fact-checkers on that. Check Youtube lol.

[turkkatarian]

he simply told people what most already knew... she is incompetent and nothing will change is shes elected

TRUMP WON hands down!

Trump won the debate

[DwightShrute]

tonight was a good night for the USA

[stealthyburrito]

Train wreck. Ugly. Biggest loser today is the united states

[chico2663]

i think donald is on coke because i have been around people that sniff like him

[d2bets]

Will Pence withdraw tomorrow? 50/50.

[Roadtrip635]

Those moderators sucked some serious ass.

[pavyracer]

Trump has lost another debate. He is getting ready to grope pussies now. Watch out ladies.

[d2bets]

Pence's Twitter in the last couple days has zero tweets about Trump and the election. All about Indiana.

[thetrinity]

Will bill Clinton seek out Juanita Broderick is the real question now