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Trump will DROP OUT TODAY....NO CHOICE
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Originally posted by itchypickleToo bad you're wrong in the fact that us Trump supporters were actually born here unlike the Dem base so we can't be deported pal
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So you think the man should have had a defense attorney, just not Hillary?? Or who ever was his defense attorney should never be allowed to be president? I really don't understand what you are arguing, because at the end of the day the man was entitled to an attorney, by law.Originally posted by pilebuck13I understand the needs for defense attorneys I just need you to address this specifically and not dance around this one question....everyone knows defense attorneys defend people they know are guilty do I think this is morally ok no I don't. I couldn't morally defend a man I felt raped a little girl....and I feel anyone who can is a morally damaged individual.....so speaking purely on morals you are ok with the fact she defended a man she felt rapped a 12 year old child this is not fantasy world bud this is a real question morally you would like to see a women who defended the rape of a 12 year old child just say yes and move on quit bringing up it was her job and that criminals need to be defended I understand this speak purely on morals you support someone who defended a child rapist and clearly felt he was guilty and your morally ok with it your a sick fukLeave a comment:
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Yep I've cheated. Yep I've been cheated on. Yep I've talked sexually about women. What I haven't done nor would I do is go after the other person and definitely wouldn't stay with a rapist or honestly anyone who cheats repetitively. My view on that is like ibtold my wife from the get go....if either of us is going to cheat we are going to do it...it can't be stopped so I'm not going to spend my time stalking you or questioning you on anything...we're both grown so know the consequences....if I cheat...I deserve to be left and if you cheat expect the same. I've been married 12 years now and goin strong.Originally posted by chico2663Itchy have u ever cheated on a girlfriend? Ever seen a woman defend her cheating ass man? Trump is the only candidate in history that has made money on his run for the presidency. I know they want to kick him out but that would take away from everyone who has cast a vote for him. Let him keep having his pep rallies and making his money. It wouldn't surprise me that after the fact that we see this was a charade to get hillary elected. He will make 20 million off his run and ruin the republican party. If they take him out i think that trump supporters should raise hell
Clintons are a different beast. It's been a power agreement from day one. Both are on record for years pretty much acknowledging it....like a real life House of Cards Frank Underwood scenario. Convenience. Defending someone is one thing...continuously allowing it and using it to further your own ambitions is another snd goes to character and integrity. To Trump...maybe he is secretly in it for Hillary but I doubt it. Either way I hate her enough to look over his words in hopes he is a true Outsider and shakes up the govt.Leave a comment:
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Itchy have u ever cheated on a girlfriend? Ever seen a woman defend her cheating ass man? Trump is the only candidate in history that has made money on his run for the presidency. I know they want to kick him out but that would take away from everyone who has cast a vote for him. Let him keep having his pep rallies and making his money. It wouldn't surprise me that after the fact that we see this was a charade to get hillary elected. He will make 20 million off his run and ruin the republican party. If they take him out i think that trump supporters should raise hellOriginally posted by itchypickleToo bad you're wrong in the fact that us Trump supporters were actually born here unlike the Dem base so we can't be deported palLeave a comment:
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that is her job. She asked twice to get off this case.If guys like you had your way their would be no defense lawyer. But if you have a speeding ticket than you have a worse record than she does.Originally posted by pilebuck13Yah I'm waiting on Greg to tell me how he morally votes and supports someone who knew a man had rapped a 12 year old child and helped him get off I'm just curious how he will defend the position there maybe say it was he job? Ok so morally still not ok to take a case you feel someone had rapped a 12 year old...maybe try and deflect to something a republican did or trump did.....I don't give a shit.....don't like them either so what u got?
All you Hillary supporters explain to me how you morally back a Candidate who took on a case of a man accused of rape of a 12 year old girl when she knew he was guiltyLeave a comment:
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I already said it over and over. I don't have a problem with criminal defense attorneys doing their job.Originally posted by pilebuck13There is no middle ground man unfortunately you either support a attorney who defends a person they feel rapped a young girl because they were doing there job or you don't answer the question...I understand the criminals need to be defended on both sides I just don't want nothing to do with a defense attorney who defends a child rapist maybe your ok with it because there just doing there job that's fine just say it
Again, that's fine that you do, you're entitled to your opinion. Agree to disagree.
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Ok there you go that's fine man it's not immoral in your mind to defend a child rapist because it's there job even though they feel the person there defending is guilty that's all you had to say I'm a little disturbed by it but to each his ownOriginally posted by d2betsAll criminal defense attorneys defend reprehensible people like this. And no, I do not feel the attorney is immoral or a bad person for doing their job. You're entitled to your opinion, so that's fine. We'll just agree to disagree at this point.Leave a comment:
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Dumbfukks are too stupid to see that Donald Trump is working for Hillary...Leave a comment:
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There is no middle ground man unfortunately you either support a attorney who defends a person they feel rapped a young girl because they were doing there job or you don't answer the question...I understand the criminals need to be defended on both sides I just don't want nothing to do with a defense attorney who defends a child rapist maybe your ok with it because there just doing there job that's fine just say itOriginally posted by d2betsI don't feel all criminal defense attorneys are immoral. We'll just agree to disagree on that.Leave a comment:
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All criminal defense attorneys defend reprehensible people like this. And no, I do not feel the attorney is immoral or a bad person for doing their job. You're entitled to your opinion, so that's fine. We'll just agree to disagree at this point.Originally posted by pilebuck13So if it was your job you could help get a 12 year old rapist of a little girl off the crime because the evidence was mishandled this is not a lightly spoken conversation this is a rape of a kid we're speaking of I understand how the justice system works I'm fully aware they take on cases were they know the defendent is guilty point of my case here is anyone who defends a man they feel rapped a small child doing there job or not I wouldn't even speak to let alone vote for them to be the face of our nation but I guess we're different.....if you can honestly tell me if the same tape surfaced and the bozo trump had done this that you would be defending him your full of shit and you know itLeave a comment:
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Too bad you're wrong in the fact that us Trump supporters were actually born here unlike the Dem base so we can't be deported palOriginally posted by GregetI don't think people are buying the apology. It sounded scripted and written by his publicist. Donald is a rapist and a pervert. It's time he step down and his supporters should be ashamed and should probably be deported.Leave a comment:
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So if it was your job you could help get a 12 year old rapist of a little girl off the crime because the evidence was mishandled this is not a lightly spoken conversation this is a rape of a kid we're speaking of I understand how the justice system works I'm fully aware they take on cases were they know the defendent is guilty point of my case here is anyone who defends a man they feel rapped a small child doing there job or not I wouldn't even speak to let alone vote for them to be the face of our nation but I guess we're different.....if you can honestly tell me if the same tape surfaced and the bozo trump had done this that you would be defending him your full of shit and you know itOriginally posted by d2betsShe's re-telling a typical "war story" for a criminal defense attorney. Yes, they still have to defend defendants who they think are guilty. The responsibility is not to present perjured testimony to the court. I don't see any of that here. I see an attorney attacking the prosecution's handling of the case and the evidence. Perfectly appropriate. She was a young attorney and clearly then went in a different direction with her career perhaps because she didn't have the stomach to continue doing what criminal defense attorneys have to do. None of which makes criminal defense attorneys bad or immoral people.
You don't seem to get how the criminal justice system works. Don't worry, you're not alone.Leave a comment:
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I don't feel all criminal defense attorneys are immoral. We'll just agree to disagree on that.Originally posted by pilebuck13I understand the needs for defense attorneys I just need you to address this specifically and not dance around this one question....everyone knows defense attorneys defend people they know are guilty do I think this is morally ok no I don't. I couldn't morally defend a man I felt raped a little girl....and I feel anyone who can is a morally damaged individual.....so speaking purely on morals you are ok with the fact she defended a man she felt rapped a 12 year old child this is not fantasy world bud this is a real question morally you would like to see a women who defended the rape of a 12 year old child just say yes and move on quit bringing up it was her job and that criminals need to be defended I understand this speak purely on morals you support someone who defended a child rapist and clearly felt he was guilty and your morally ok with it your a sick fukLeave a comment:
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I understand the needs for defense attorneys I just need you to address this specifically and not dance around this one question....everyone knows defense attorneys defend people they know are guilty do I think this is morally ok no I don't. I couldn't morally defend a man I felt raped a little girl....and I feel anyone who can is a morally damaged individual.....so speaking purely on morals you are ok with the fact she defended a man she felt rapped a 12 year old child this is not fantasy world bud this is a real question morally you would like to see a women who defended the rape of a 12 year old child just say yes and move on quit bringing up it was her job and that criminals need to be defended I understand this speak purely on morals you support someone who defended a child rapist and clearly felt he was guilty and your morally ok with it your a sick fukOriginally posted by GregetIf you follow your logic all the way through you would be condoning a lawyer taking a case, then purposefully sabotaging his client because he felt that client was actually guilty. That is immoral imo.
If you can't understand the need to have defense attorneys, than you are lost, living in a fantasy world. If you can't see the difference between a defense attorney and a rapist.... sorry you are lost. I'm done debating the issue with someone that has the intellect of a small child.Leave a comment:
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She's re-telling a typical "war story" for a criminal defense attorney. Yes, they still have to defend defendants who they think are guilty. The responsibility is not to present perjured testimony to the court. I don't see any of that here. I see an attorney attacking the prosecution's handling of the case and the evidence. Perfectly appropriate. She was a young attorney and clearly then went in a different direction with her career perhaps because she didn't have the stomach to continue doing what criminal defense attorneys have to do. None of which makes criminal defense attorneys bad or immoral people.Originally posted by pilebuck13
defend the fact that she defended a child rapist given the job or not......doing her job or not.....its clear in the video as she states she gave him a lie detector which he passed then states it made her loose all faith in lie detector tests which comes to one conclusion she felt he was guilty and continued to do her job and defend a man who she obviously felt rapped a 12 year old that's morally ok I guess because she was doing her job speaks nothing about the type of person she is......right
You don't seem to get how the criminal justice system works. Don't worry, you're not alone.Leave a comment:
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Hillary supporters watch the tape and say you want this person to lead the country trump supporters watch the tape and say you want this man to lead this county...a women who helped a child rapist get off charges even though she felt he was guilty or a man who thinks it's ok because he has money to grope women....
wow 😳 it's obvious we're fuked
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I don't think people are buying the apology. It sounded scripted and written by his publicist. Donald is a rapist and a pervert. It's time he step down and his supporters should be ashamed and should probably be deported.Originally posted by itchypickleThat's my point. Mention and move on...been days and he owned it and apologized but the pundits are still saying he needs to just spend the next 30 days apologizing. Even MSNBC joked at how it's blown the coverage of the Wikileaks emails off the minds of everyone....Bernie spent months trying to get her to release them and she wouldn't...they get released and shows her saying in private do t worry ill say one thing in public but here's my real position for you wealthy donors and bankers...then she goes right out to the American people and says I'm with you the little guy, gonna fight those bankers.
The reason Trump is where he is today is because we are tired of the same old petty fight each election...who's a racist who will over promise and under deliver....who said what in high school blah blah blah. The media bubble people love it but we have millions jobless....middle east issues leaking to the world....fed running out of ways to prop up the false economy...trillions in debt...outdated infrastructure....failing public schools from unions....people want more.Leave a comment:
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If you follow your logic all the way through you would be condoning a lawyer taking a case, then purposefully sabotaging his client because he felt that client was actually guilty. That is immoral imo.Originally posted by pilebuck13She's laughing and not speaking with remorse she claims she gave him a lie detector test and he passed then immediately states it made her give up all faith in the lie detector test does that not conclude she felt he was guilty? if not what was she trying to say by making that statement? please explain it to me...vote for someone who helped a child rapist just because she was doing her job trump supporters vote for a guy who uses his fame to grope women it's all fuked up listen to the tape everyone if trump was a lawyer you would be hammering him you moron but because it's not who you support you defend this shit
If you can't understand the need to have defense attorneys, than you are lost, living in a fantasy world. If you can't see the difference between a defense attorney and a rapist.... sorry you are lost. I'm done debating the issue with someone that has the intellect of a small child.Leave a comment:
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That's my point. Mention and move on...been days and he owned it and apologized but the pundits are still saying he needs to just spend the next 30 days apologizing. Even MSNBC joked at how it's blown the coverage of the Wikileaks emails off the minds of everyone....Bernie spent months trying to get her to release them and she wouldn't...they get released and shows her saying in private do t worry ill say one thing in public but here's my real position for you wealthy donors and bankers...then she goes right out to the American people and says I'm with you the little guy, gonna fight those bankers.Originally posted by d2betsIt's the elephant in the room. They have to lead off with it. As long as it's not the full 90 minutes. Spend 10 minutes and then move on and don't bring up the stuff again. Get it all out and then move on.
The reason Trump is where he is today is because we are tired of the same old petty fight each election...who's a racist who will over promise and under deliver....who said what in high school blah blah blah. The media bubble people love it but we have millions jobless....middle east issues leaking to the world....fed running out of ways to prop up the false economy...trillions in debt...outdated infrastructure....failing public schools from unions....people want more.Leave a comment:
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defend the fact that she defended a child rapist given the job or not......doing her job or not.....its clear in the video as she states she gave him a lie detector which he passed then states it made her loose all faith in lie detector tests which comes to one conclusion she felt he was guilty and continued to do her job and defend a man who she obviously felt rapped a 12 year old that's morally ok I guess because she was doing her job speaks nothing about the type of person she is......rightLeave a comment:
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She's laughing and not speaking with remorse she claims she gave him a lie detector test and he passed then immediately states it made her give up all faith in the lie detector test does that not conclude she felt he was guilty? if not what was she trying to say by making that statement? please explain it to me...vote for someone who helped a child rapist just because she was doing her job trump supporters vote for a guy who uses his fame to grope women it's all fuked up listen to the tape everyone if trump was a lawyer you would be hammering him you moron but because it's not who you support you defend this shitOriginally posted by GregetIt's amazing how you seem to know every single thought that Clinton has ever had and you know for a fact that she feels good about the process, and what she was thinking during the video...
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It's amazing how you seem to know every single thought that Clinton has ever had and you know for a fact that she feels good about the process, and what she was thinking during the video...Originally posted by pilebuck13Ok bro so your fine with voting for someone who just did there job even though it was defending a rapist of a 12 year old child and talking about it nonchalantly I understand our criminal justice system has to defend both sides of such cases what I don't understand is how you are ok with someone being in the White House who took a case and has a interview discussing it with basically no remorse of a man she felt was guilty of rapping a 12 year old? Your ok with that because it's how our justice system works good for you your a hell of a person man
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How would you know if they are guilty if you don't go through the defense process? I think its immoral to deny someone a defense because you have a "feeling" they are guilty.Originally posted by pilebuck13Yes law aside defending someone you know deep down committed a horrific crime especially rape of a young 12 year old girl is immoral just as forcing yourself on a women is immoral...now choose between who you think is less evil and feel good about itLeave a comment:
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Ok bro so your fine with voting for someone who just did there job even though it was defending a rapist of a 12 year old child and talking about it nonchalantly I understand our criminal justice system has to defend both sides of such cases what I don't understand is how you are ok with someone being in the White House who took a case and has a interview discussing it with basically no remorse of a man she felt was guilty of rapping a 12 year old? Your ok with that because it's how our justice system works good for you your a hell of a person man.....anyone who has not heard the tape it's available on YouTube warning it might make you sick to your stomachOriginally posted by d2betsIt is not immoral for a criminal defense attorney to do the job that they are legally required to do and to provide the defense that every criminal defendant is constitutionally entitled to. So no, I do not think every criminal defense attorney is immoral for doing their job.
Upholding the Constitution is not immoral.Leave a comment:
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It is not immoral for a criminal defense attorney to do the job that they are legally required to do and to provide the defense that every criminal defendant is constitutionally entitled to. So no, I do not think every criminal defense attorney is immoral for doing their job.Originally posted by pilebuck13It's immoral to defend someone you feel is guilty of rapping a 12 year old little girl yes....do you think it's not?
Upholding the Constitution is not immoral.Leave a comment:
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Yes law aside defending someone you know deep down committed a horrific crime especially rape of a young 12 year old girl is immoral just as forcing yourself on a women is immoral...now choose between who you think is less evil and feel good about itOriginally posted by d2betsSo you are saying that all criminal defense attorneys are immoral?Leave a comment:
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It's immoral to defend someone you feel is guilty of rapping a 12 year old little girl yes....do you think it's not?Leave a comment:
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So you are saying that all criminal defense attorneys are immoral?Originally posted by pilebuck13So morally I would decline to take a job where I had to defend someone I felt was guilty of rapping a 12 year old little girl but that's just me I guess your ok with it and in fact want a person who is ok doing it....so what that has to say about you speaks volume to the person you are it's not a conspiracy it's on tape my views are far more radical for your sheep mind to take in your so brainwashed it would scare you....so in closing your voting for someone who felt a man had rapped a 12 year old little girl and because she was just doing her job your ok with it have a nice day you jerk offLeave a comment:
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So morally I would decline to take a job where I had to defend someone I felt was guilty of rapping a 12 year old little girl but that's just me I guess your ok with it and in fact want a person who is ok doing it....so what that has to say about you speaks volume to the person you are it's not a conspiracy it's on tape my views are far more radical for your sheep mind to take in your so brainwashed it would scare you....so in closing your voting for someone who felt a man had rapped a 12 year old little girl and because she was just doing her job your ok with it have a nice day you jerk offOriginally posted by GregetYou don't get to pick and choose your cases as a public defender. It's assigned. Everyone is entitled to a defense, blame the system, it's been that way since our nation was founded, blame the constitution if you have a problem, not someone just doing her job. You are being incredibly immature.
Any other fox news conspiracy theories you want to throw my way?
Also who are you supporting? Johnson? You might as well be supporting Trump. an admitted rapist.Leave a comment:
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You don't get to pick and choose your cases as a public defender. It's assigned. Everyone is entitled to a defense, blame the system, it's been that way since our nation was founded, blame the constitution if you have a problem, not someone just doing her job. You are being incredibly immature.Originally posted by pilebuck13I don't support trump he's a slime ball piece of shit nice try maybe u need to listen to the tape again it wasn't proven yet she admits that after he passed the lie detector test she lost all faith in lie detector tests how does that not prove she felt he was guilty she didn't have to take the case right? But she did
Any other fox news conspiracy theories you want to throw my way?
Also who are you supporting? Johnson? You might as well be supporting Trump. an admitted rapist.Leave a comment:
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I don't support trump he's a slime ball piece of shit nice try maybe u need to listen to the tape again it wasn't proven yet she admits that after he passed the lie detector test she lost all faith in lie detector tests how does that not prove she felt he was guilty she didn't have to take the case right? But she didOriginally posted by GregetI saw the video, nothing you say happened, actually happened, she was assigned the case as a public defender, she was laughing at the polygraph tests and how weak they were. Classic deflection from the man you are supporting who is an actual admitted rapist.
You are delusional and desperate now that Trump has admitted he sexually assaulted women using his power and influence.Leave a comment:
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I can easily defend lawyers who defend murderers, let alone rapists. By your logic, criminal defense attorneys are all horrible indefensible people. She was defending him per her job as attorney, not promoting him to be President.Originally posted by pilebuck13See when you openly admit you don't support a republican or democrat and hit them with a fact and simply ask them how they morally support someone who helped get a rapist of a 12 year old child off prosecution with county time served the are fukin buried because there used to just deflecting something like this and going after something a republican did but when you say there both evil they have nothing your buried you fukin piece of shit I'm waiting on your respone how do you vote for someone who defended a child rapist she felt was guilty and says it on tape?Leave a comment:
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See when you openly admit you don't support a republican or democrat and hit them with a fact and simply ask them how they morally support someone who helped get a rapist of a 12 year old child off prosecution with county time served the are fukin buried because there used to just deflecting something like this and going after something a republican did but when you say there both evil they have nothing your buried you fukin piece of shit I'm waiting on your respone how do you vote for someone who defended a child rapist she felt was guilty and says it on tape?Leave a comment:
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