Trump will DROP OUT TODAY....NO CHOICE

[stevenash]

cnn is doing a good show on trump during the taj mahal days

Italian mom and pop restaurant sat right on a lot Trump wanted so bad for his Taj Mahal parking lot.
The restaurant was the best in Atlantic City.

Trump offered like 40 cents on the dollar for the land, mom and pop said 'pound sand'
After they refused 60 cents on the dollar Trump sent his lawyers after them claiming eminent domain.

Got laughed out of court, never even made it to court, since eminent domain pertains to government.

He's an idiot.

Speaking of idiots I heard some are voting Hilary because they truly believe she can stop the hurricanes.

[d2bets]

Mike Pence tweeting about Indiana today.

Anyone else think he's off the ticket in the next 48 hours?

He's watching tonight. If Trump gets it way wrong, I think Pence bails.

[pilebuck13]

Fox isn't reporting this story because they just got pounded for a ton of money on sexual harassment cases & they consider Trump GOD

all corrupt media is controlled not just Fox News really

[pilebuck13]

Well... I think right now we have the best chance we have in a long time.

Tonight's debate could be really ugly, casting both candidates in a majorly negative light...

What if... then there is a big push for Johnson? Like what if Mark Cuban got all over CNBC promoting him? Something like that?

To much corruption to fix need a complete cleaning house

[INVEGA MAN]

Fox isn't reporting this story because they just got pounded for a ton of money on sexual harassment cases & they consider Trump GOD

[grease lightnin]

Reason we will never see actual change in politics

Well... I think right now we have the best chance we have in a long time.

Tonight's debate could be really ugly, casting both candidates in a majorly negative light...

What if... then there is a big push for Johnson? Like what if Mark Cuban got all over CNBC promoting him? Something like that?

[bigtymer56]

Grease the less of 2 evils is not a very compelling argument

When those are your only 2 options it is

[pilebuck13]

Unfortunately it is.

Reason we will never see actual change in politics

[grease lightnin]

Grease the less of 2 evils is not a very compelling argument

Unfortunately it is.

[pilebuck13]

Actually, defense attorneys cannot just walk away. It is not that simple.

I don't like either candidate, but Trump is a clown, and sadly, Hillary gets my vote as of now. We shall see how events unfold.

Grease the less of 2 evils is not a very compelling argument

[grease lightnin]

Oh no grease it was her job she was just doing her job and her job in that case was to defend a person she felt rapped a girl but it's ok because it's her job....that makes it ok so morally if a defense attorney feels someone is guilty but also feels there is not enough eveidence they can walk away from the case and find some sleaze ball attorney to defend them but he didn't need to do that Clinton defended him.......which in case makes her morally unfit to run the country just as trump is morally unfit to run the presidency

Actually, defense attorneys cannot just walk away. It is not that simple.

I don't like either candidate, but Trump is a clown, and sadly, Hillary gets my vote as of now. We shall see how events unfold.

[pilebuck13]

[QUOTE=Greget;26367758]

Not really, I don't think having defense attorneys for murders, rapists, whoever is a reason to tear down the country and start over, and I don't think its the same as supporting an actual rapist. Mrs. Clinton has spent her entire life helping children, including spearheading S-Chip which now insurers 8 million children. Her first job out of college was pro bono work as an attorney for the children's defense fund. More than any of us have done for kids in America, so I'm not so judgemental and self righteous.

Ok it's not the same as supporting a rapist but it's ok to support someone who defended a man who made her (and laughing) question a lie detector test after he passed it? Ummmmm maybe neither is the answer

[Greget]

[QUOTE=pilebuck13;26367718]

I didn't ask about the law, I asked if YOU think he should have had an attorney? If yes, then why is it ok if someone else was his attorney, but just not Hillary? I really don't understand your position.

On Trump, he admitted to "grabbing her pussy", that is more than words. That is rape. Just like his ex wife accused him of rape, you have to look at the whole situation in context, I believe the man is a rapist, but has high priced lawyers, who the rich often have, to keep themselves out of trouble. It's a bit different than free speech, not to mention the man is running for President, I would expect a bit more out of someone running for office.[/


Why were you continuously bringing up the fact she was doing her job? And it was the law? If trump broke the law he would have been convicted right? No he probably would not be convicted because as you stated he has high powered lawyers...just as bill Clinton who has been convicted of rape what 4 times and never convicted? Hmmmmm I'm simply stating I don't support a man who gropes women and does not pay taxes and I don't support a women who is a defense attorney for a man she felt rapped a little girl.


Greg I'm on neither side I just want you to open your eyes in how ridiculous your being thinking your right and the other side is wrong......

Speak to this directly: she said her defendant passsed the lie detector test and she then lost all faith in the lie detector test.....this means she felt the person she was defending was a child rapist right?

So pick a side a rapist or a person who defended a child rapist?

Is there a clear choice there? Do you need to back either side or can you just maybe agree there both terrible and we need some major change in who our leaders are?

Not really, I don't think having defense attorneys for murders, rapists, whoever is a reason to tear down the country and start over, and I don't think its the same as supporting an actual rapist. Mrs. Clinton has spent her entire life helping children, including spearheading S-Chip which now insurers 8 million children. Her first job out of college was pro bono work as an attorney for the children's defense fund. More than any of us have done for kids in America, so I'm not so judgemental and self righteous.

[pilebuck13]

Greget, she was rather cavalier about this case. You would think even in doing her duty as a lawyer, she would have some remorse as a human being.

Oh no grease it was her job she was just doing her job and her job in that case was to defend a person she felt rapped a girl but it's ok because it's her job....that makes it ok so morally if a defense attorney feels someone is guilty but also feels there is not enough eveidence they can walk away from the case and find some sleaze ball attorney to defend them but he didn't need to do that Clinton defended him.......which in case makes her morally unfit to run the country just as trump is morally unfit to run the presidency

[grease lightnin]

Greget, she was rather cavalier about this case. You would think even in doing her duty as a lawyer, she would have some remorse as a human being.

[Tommy Karate]

What time is then debate..I mean the burial of Trump?

knew you were a liberal pos....

another clueless young kid who makes no money....brainwashed by his professors and the liberal media

[pilebuck13]

[QUOTE=Greget;26367692]I didn't ask about the law, I asked if YOU think he should have had an attorney? If yes, then why is it ok if someone else was his attorney, but just not Hillary? I really don't understand your position.

On Trump, he admitted to "grabbing her pussy", that is more than words. That is rape. Just like his ex wife accused him of rape, you have to look at the whole situation in context, I believe the man is a rapist, but has high priced lawyers, who the rich often have, to keep themselves out of trouble. It's a bit different than free speech, not to mention the man is running for President, I would expect a bit more out of someone running for office.[/


Why were you continuously bringing up the fact she was doing her job? And it was the law? If trump broke the law he would have been convicted right? No he probably would not be convicted because as you stated he has high powered lawyers...just as bill Clinton who has been convicted of rape what 4 times and never convicted? Hmmmmm I'm simply stating I don't support a man who gropes women and does not pay taxes and I don't support a women who is a defense attorney for a man she felt rapped a little girl.


Greg I'm on neither side I just want you to open your eyes in how ridiculous your being thinking your right and the other side is wrong......

Speak to this directly: she said her defendant passsed the lie detector test and she then lost all faith in the lie detector test.....this means she felt the person she was defending was a child rapist right?

So pick a side a rapist or a person who defended a child rapist?

Is there a clear choice there? Do you need to back either side or can you just maybe agree there both terrible and we need some major change in who our leaders are?

[Greget]

The reason you can't answer my question is because by typing the words, "Yes this man should been entitled to an attorney" You are admonishing all guilt by Clinton, affirming my position, and ipso facto admitting that you lost the argument.

[Greget]

I'll answer the question under our laws he has the right to a attorney. Now answer mine what law did Donald trump break?what crime has he been convicted of answer it...I will be the first to state I don't feel just because sometimes a law it is right.....and if you do then what ground do you stand to feel someone (trump) has done wrong by using free speech and our justice system to be expelled from any wrong doing? I mean if we're just talking laws neither one broke the law right? But morally most are not ok with what trump said as I'm not okay with Hillary defending someone she felt rapped a child but you are because it was her job and legal well he didn't break the law either but it's still not ok what he said and still not ok with who she defended

I didn't ask about the law, I asked if YOU think he should have had an attorney? If yes, then why is it ok if someone else was his attorney, but just not Hillary? I really don't understand your position.

On Trump, he admitted to "grabbing her pussy", that is more than words. That is rape. Just like his ex wife accused him of rape, you have to look at the whole situation in context, I believe the man is a rapist, but has high priced lawyers, who the rich often have, to keep themselves out of trouble. It's a bit different than free speech, not to mention the man is running for President, I would expect a bit more out of someone running for office.

[pilebuck13]

You never even answered a single question. Meaning you lost the argument. You are daft if you can't tell the difference between a person who is a rapist and who is not a rapist, but that is too much so just answer the question.

Should the guy have had an attorney or not? Yes or no. It's a simple question.

I'll answer the question under our laws he has the right to a attorney. Now answer mine what law did Donald trump break?what crime has he been convicted of answer it...I will be the first to state I don't feel just because something's a law it is right.....and if you do then what ground do you stand to feel someone (trump) has done wrong by using free speech and our justice system to be expelled from any wrong doing? I mean if we're just talking laws neither one broke the law right? But morally most are not ok with what trump said as I'm not okay with Hillary defending someone she felt rapped a child but you are because it was her job and legal well he didn't break the law either but it's still not ok what he said and still not ok with who she defended...if he groped women then he would have been convicted right? And the fella she defended was not convicted but she felt he was guilty so once again this comes down to morals not law and morally they are both wrong. How can you disagree with that

[Greget]

I backed every single one of you into a corner and your all down for the count let me end with this...under every one of your guys arguments she was doing her job and it's the law and she was following the constitution and the guilty need to be defended....and your fine supporting her because it was her job even if it was to defend a man she felt was guilty of rape....then the trump tape and allegations stand absolutely 0 ground he said something disgusting but had every right due to free speech which is constitutional and has never been convicted of a crime under our justice system which you support as well as our constitution and amendments so if we're speaking on morals purely and not law then we're do you have a ground to stand? unless your a sick Fuk who morally is ok with a person defending a person they felt rapped a child....remember he never broke the law or was convicted so were just speaking morals here......ko right there you guys are done

groping women is protected by the constitution?? wow. news to me. Yea trump wasn't convicted, neither was the guy who raped the 12 year old.

You never even answered a single question, you keep saying the same thing over and over. Meaning you lost the argument. You are daft if you can't tell the difference between a person who is a rapist and who was the attorney of a rapist, as if any criminal shouldn't have doctors, therapists, mechanic, someone to grow their food, or anyone assisting them in any way, they are all guilty in your eyes. But just answer the question.

Should the guy have had an attorney or not? Yes or no. It's a simple question.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Time line means nothing she defended a man she felt rapped a child trump he groped women and more then likely sexually assaulted them tells me there is no side to stand on but whatever I have a soul and don't just vote because I feel I have to pick a side in 2 evil people.....this is why we're in this mess in the first place but defend her for doing her job which was to defend a man she felt rapped a child go ahead be that person

There's nothing wrong with not voting if you don't feel informed enough to make a choice; however, there are more than those 2 terrible candidates, and voting for one of the better ones sends the message that terrible candidates aren't acceptable. Otherwise, we're just perpetuating the 'lesser of two evils' schtick

[pilebuck13]

If you read every word of that video above, it looked like she didn't do her job very well. The guy went to jail for
2 months with no evidence against him.

But she lost faith in the lie detector test once he passed it hmmmmm sounds like she thought he was guilty right? Read above post #611 👌 Greg Chico were you at you have no way out of this

[eidolon]

Call me crazy, but I would vote in Hitler if he was a republican this year because of the SCOTUS decisions that will come up in the next few years.
SCOTUS needs to stay conservative, and never go liberal.

[pilebuck13]

I backed every single one of you into a corner and your all down for the count let me end with this...under every one of your guys arguments she was doing her job and it's the law and she was following the constitution and the guilty need to be defended....and your fine supporting her because it was her job even if it was to defend a man she felt was guilty of rape....then the trump tape and allegations stand absolutely 0 ground he said something disgusting but had every right due to free speech which is constitutional and has never been convicted of a crime under our justice system which you support as well as our constitution and amendments so if we're speaking on morals purely and not law then we're do you have a ground to stand? unless your a sick Fuk who morally is ok with a person defending a person they felt rapped a child....remember he never broke the law or was convicted so were just speaking morals here......ko right there you guys are done

[rkelly110]

Time line means nothing she defended a man she felt rapped a child trump he groped women and more then likely sexually assaulted them tells me there is no side to stand on but whatever I have a soul and don't just vote because I feel I have to pick a side in 2 evil people.....this is why we're in this mess in the first place but defend her for doing her job which was to defend a man she felt rapped a child go ahead be that person

If you read every word of that video above, it looked like she didn't do her job very well. The guy went to jail for
2 months with no evidence against him.

[pilebuck13]

Agree to disagree.

But maybe I'm biased because I have friends that are defense lawyers and I know that they are good people. Except for maybe one. But generally, they are fine people. They understand and take their duty and oath and take the Constitution seriously.

So do you think it was ok for trump to not pay taxes or sue small contractors with big lawyers and not pay them? It was the law? It's ok to disagree with laws but obviously not when we're speaking of the person you support then it's just she was doing her job even though her job was to defend a man she felt rapped a small child but hey it's the law so no big deal right?

[jim]

Not at all. She basically talks about how hard it is for middle class families to get ahead, same stuff she always says.

What she doesn't do is brag about assaulting people.

" You need a public position and a private position on issues."

[pilebuck13]

For someone who doesn't vote, you sure are getting worked up over what Hillary did 30 some years ago.

Time line means nothing she defended a man she felt rapped a child trump he groped women and more then likely sexually assaulted them tells me there is no side to stand on but whatever I have a soul and don't just vote because I feel I have to pick a side in 2 evil people.....this is why we're in this mess in the first place but defend her for doing her job which was to defend a man she felt rapped a child go ahead be that person

[rkelly110]

I'm saying my morals make it impossible for me to support someone who defended a client she felt was guilty of rapping a 12 year old little girl.....and tells it in a story with little to no remorse and is laughing in telling the story it's ok because she was doing her job and had asked to get off the case instead of simply refusing to defend him it's ok.....these people have to be defended yes it's the law and the job to defend a person you believed rapped a 12 year old is a immoral job you don't think it is you have no problem throwing your support behind people who defend a person they feel rapped a young girl quit bringing up the law and the fact it was her job speak only to the issue you support a women who defended a man she felt rapped a 12 year old girl....but hey that is fine with you....you support people who do there job and defend men they felt rapped little girls and are able to go on with there life like it's no big deal hell even tell stories about it and have a few laughs of well life goes on I just got a man I felt rapped a 12 year old 2 months time served county jail no big deal life goes on.....I'm not saying there is any way around defense attorneys what I'm saying is I can't support a person morally who defends a rape of a child when they feel there guilty you can your a piece of work....and only defend this because you can't wrap your small mind around maybe saying yah your right there both evil and morally corrupt no you stick to your side like a robot...it's agreed she was doing her job and her job was to defend a man she felt rapped a child and she was ok with it and so are you

For someone who doesn't vote, you sure are getting worked up over what Hillary did 30 some years ago.

[pilebuck13]

But would you actually support trump if he went up to a women and grabbed her in the pussy. He did do it. he settled out of court for doing it. They didn't believe her in court when she said he did it. He lied about it in court.

No god no I wouldn't and I don't support trump but nice try...who's next let me bury ever single one of you and by the way defense attorneys are never forced to
Defend someone they feel is guilty they don't but she took the case hell even got him a smoking deal 👏

[d2bets]

There is a dark place in defense lawyers hearts I believe.. When you are defending someone that you know is guilty of an horrific crime and still defend that person then you are no better then that person you are defending..

Hillary Guilty as Charged!!! She knew...

Agree to disagree.

But maybe I'm biased because I have friends that are defense lawyers and I know that they are good people. Except for maybe one. But generally, they are fine people. They understand and take their duty and oath and take the Constitution seriously.

[JIBBBY]

I can easily defend lawyers who defend murderers, let alone rapists. By your logic, criminal defense attorneys are all horrible indefensible people. She was defending him per her job as attorney, not promoting him to be President.

There is a dark place in defense lawyers hearts I believe.. When you are defending someone that you know is guilty of an horrific crime and still defend that person then you are no better then that person you are defending..

Hillary Guilty as Charged!!! She knew...

Hillary deflected and lied about Bengazi where people died.. That was bad too.. Hillary is no Saint..

[chico2663]

I'm saying my morals make it impossible for me to support someone who defended a client she felt was guilty of rapping a 12 year old little girl.....and tells it in a story with little to no remorse and is laughing in telling the story it's ok because she was doing her job and had asked to get off the case instead of simply refusing to defend him it's ok.....these people have to be defended yes it's the law and the job to defend a person you believed rapped a 12 year old is a immoral job you don't think it is you have no problem throwing your support behind people who defend a person they feel rapped a young girl quit bringing up the law and the fact it was her job speak only to the issue you support a women who defended a man she felt rapped a 12 year old girl....but hey that is fine with you....you support people who do there job and defend men they felt rapped little girls and are able to go on with there life like it's no big deal hell even tell stories about it and have a few laughs of well life goes on I just got a man I felt rapped a 12 year old 2 months time served county jail no big deal life goes on.....I'm not saying there is any way around defense attorneys what I'm saying is I can't support a person morally who defends a rape of a child when they feel there guilty you can your a piece of work....and only defend this because you can't wrap your small mind around maybe saying yah your right there both evil and morally corrupt no you stick to your side like a robot...it's agreed she was doing her job and her job was to defend a man she felt rapped a child and she was ok with it and so are you

But would you actually support trump if he went up to a women and grabbed her in the pussy. He did do it. he settled out of court for doing it. They didn't believe her in court when she said he did it. He lied about it in court.

[pilebuck13]

So you think the man should have had a defense attorney, just not Hillary?? Or who ever was his defense attorney should never be allowed to be president? I really don't understand what you are arguing, because at the end of the day the man was entitled to an attorney, by law.

I'm saying my morals make it impossible for me to support someone who defended a client she felt was guilty of rapping a 12 year old little girl.....and tells it in a story with little to no remorse and is laughing in telling the story it's ok because she was doing her job and had asked to get off the case instead of simply refusing to defend him it's ok.....these people have to be defended yes it's the law and the job to defend a person you believed rapped a 12 year old is a immoral job you don't think it is you have no problem throwing your support behind people who defend a person they feel rapped a young girl quit bringing up the law and the fact it was her job speak only to the issue you support a women who defended a man she felt rapped a 12 year old girl....but hey that is fine with you....you support people who do there job and defend men they felt rapped little girls and are able to go on with there life like it's no big deal hell even tell stories about it and have a few laughs of well life goes on I just got a man I felt rapped a 12 year old 2 months time served county jail no big deal life goes on.....I'm not saying there is any way around defense attorneys what I'm saying is I can't support a person morally who defends a rape of a child when they feel there guilty you can your a piece of work....and only defend this because you can't wrap your small mind around maybe saying yah your right there both evil and morally corrupt no you stick to your side like a robot...it's agreed she was doing her job and her job was to defend a man she felt rapped a child and she was ok with it and so are you