Rondo won my respect tonight....

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  • Casperwaits
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-06
    • 5042

    #36
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    Name one Kentucky player since Pitino left that made the all star game?
    What the hell does that have to do with Rajon Rondo and how he is playing now? For you to think that all development stops after college is absurd. Pavy, stop with the goofy arguments, you are better than that.
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82905

      #37
      Watch out for Rubio in this year's draft. Whoever drafts him he will make Rondo look like a clown in a couple years. Mark my words. Rubio will be an all-star before Rondo.
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      • Casperwaits
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-25-06
        • 5042

        #38
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        Watch out for Rubio in this year's draft. Whoever drafts him he will make Rondo look like a clown in a couple years. Mark my words. Rubio will be an all-star before Rondo.
        Pavy, Rubio will be very good. I will bet you the world that Rondo will be an All-Star before Rubio. Considering Rubio will not be an all-star next year and Rondo will, your assurances are pretty tepid at best.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #39
          Rondy might be one of top 3 all around guards in nba
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82905

            #40
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Rondy might be one of top 3 all around guards in nba
            Who are the other two coach?
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            • Vincepcion
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-07-09
              • 834

              #41
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              They are playing the Bulls. Lets see how he fares with Cavs or Lakers before we call him an all star.
              LOL

              I don't care who you face, averaging a triple double in a series = all-star caliber player. There's only been 5 people in the history of basketball who have averaged triple doubles in a series.r
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              • Vincepcion
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-07-09
                • 834

                #42
                LOL @ saying Rondo is better than Paul. I dare you guys to start a thread on that on a real basketball forum, you guys will get ripped. Paul will be the greatest, or 2nd greatest PG of all time.
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                • The_Kid
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-09-08
                  • 5049

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Vincepcion
                  LOL @ saying Rondo is better than Paul. I dare you guys to start a thread on that on a real basketball forum, you guys will get ripped. Paul will be the greatest, or 2nd greatest PG of all time.
                  Yeah, that statement is ridiculous. Give me a break.
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                  • Vincepcion
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-07-09
                    • 834

                    #44
                    Rondo will be very good. He's improving every part of his game and is still a top 3 defensive PG in the league. To the people who say "well, he let a rookie score points on him"...ummm Derrick Rose is not just any rookie, and Rose would beat any PG off the dribble as he's one of the quickest in the NBA, if not THE quickest. It's too bad Chicago's coaching is so terrible where they don't let Rose create more. If Rose gets more isolations like he did in Game 1, the Bulls are probably up in the series. And Rondo is definitely going to make an all-star team, he's a ~top 5 PG in the NBA.
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                    • yisman
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-01-08
                      • 75682

                      #45
                      Originally posted by CrazyLou
                      Alright fine, he's had a career year.
                      Pretty stubborn of you, considering that was Game 5 and Rondo's basically held the team together this season.

                      He's still growing as a player. He just turned 23, and he's already a top 5 point guard.

                      He's had the benefit of learning from veterans like KG, Cheap Shot Allen, and Pierce. Invaluable experience and it shows. He's the reason they've been able to compete with the Bulls.

                      Just two games ago, you were saying that Rondo getting injured would be good for the team.
                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                      [/quote]

                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                      • Data
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-27-07
                        • 2236

                        #46
                        CrazyLou, Rondo calls he is jubilant, he worked hard to gain your respect. His teammates join him celebrating this high achievement.

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                        Numbers wise, this year Paul was the best PG. Rondo was the third best after Parker who had an incredible year (while Ginobili and Duncan had the year off).
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                        • NBA Hero
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-05-08
                          • 1886

                          #47
                          Originally posted by CrazyLou
                          Alright fine, he's had a career year.

                          Do I think he'll duplicate this season, or clutchness down the stretch again? Maybe not, but props for being the best Boston player in the playoffs.
                          please lou, dont pick bos to win. i rooting for them to win.
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                          • NBA Hero
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-05-08
                            • 1886

                            #48
                            just my thought and guess. rubio is to small built for nba. he will be heckled and physically man handled esp when the calls of the ref are biased for established veteran players.it just looks like rondo is so long. does anybody knows how long is his reach like in boxing?
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                            • Vincepcion
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-07-09
                              • 834

                              #49
                              chris paul is too small for the nba too

                              lol
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                              • thefish
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 04-28-09
                                • 27

                                #50
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                Rondo is very erratic. He loses his cool easily, he is a mediocre defender, an average passer and can't create his own shot. I can list more but this is why he was an average player both in Kentucky and will be an average player in NBA. He is not gifted. Period!
                                Average players don't put their teams on their backs and win playoff games This kid is a STUD
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82905

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by thefish
                                  Average players don't put their teams on their backs and win playoff games This kid is a STUD
                                  Well they are a number 2 seed facing a number 7 seed. A crippled monkey with Down's Syndrome can carry his number 2 team seed past the first round of the playoffs even with a game seven. What was the last time a number 2 seed lost in the first round of playoffs?
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                                  • thefish
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 04-28-09
                                    • 27

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    Well they are a number 2 seed facing a number 7 seed. A crippled monkey with Down's Syndrome can carry his number 2 team seed past the first round of the playoffs even with a game seven. What was the last time a number 2 seed lost in the first round of playoffs?
                                    A 2 seed is the hand they were dealt. Without KG & Powe you may see it soon.Don't forget Ray was on the bench . RONDO is a STUD
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                                    • Jobe2004
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-13-09
                                      • 101

                                      #53
                                      finding it funny how Rondo is the best pg in the league yet is incapable of hitting a jumper. The guys is playing against a rookie pg with atrocious defense. He's special, but lets not get carried away. Deron and Paul are way ahead....
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                                      • Shark79
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-19-07
                                        • 11211

                                        #54
                                        Lou .... simply tell us that you hate Rondo and the C's .... and we will move on .... 90% of the threads you open recently have to do with Rondo and how much you hate the C's

                                        Like it or not ... C's will be in next round.
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                                        • NBA Hero
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-05-08
                                          • 1886

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Vincepcion
                                          chris paul is too small for the nba too

                                          lol
                                          dont compare someone who hasnt even play a game to CP3cp3 has earned my respect. rubio looks he has great talent to be in nba. but it will definitely take more than that. i just dont see him making a great impact immediately or carry a team to deep playoff cause so far he is not built for it.he needs to develop at lot of his physique to be able to do that.kobe built his body so did jordan.jordan explicitly explain why having a tough body is a must going in the playoff since he is roughed up by detroit.clear dude
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                                          • Charger42
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 01-10-08
                                            • 63

                                            #56
                                            Wow, I think Rondo is on the rise, but best point guard in the league? Chris Paul, D Williams, and even Chauncey is better. Any team with KG, Allen and Pierce will inflate your assist average
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                                            • SBR Lou
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-02-07
                                              • 37863

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Charger42
                                              Wow, I think Rondo is on the rise, but best point guard in the league? Chris Paul, D Williams, and even Chauncey is better. Any team with KG, Allen and Pierce will inflate your assist average
                                              Agreed, he's definitely overrated.
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                                              • yisman
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-01-08
                                                • 75682

                                                #58
                                                he's clearly not the best in the NBA, but he's top 5.
                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                [/quote]

                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                • SBR Lou
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-02-07
                                                  • 37863

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by yisman
                                                  he's clearly not the best in the NBA, but he's top 5.
                                                  Top 5 player overall, or point guard?
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82905

                                                    #60
                                                    D.Williams, Parker, Rose, Bibby, Ford, Harris, Nash, M.Williams are better overall players. He barely cracks top ten.
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                                                    • Casperwaits
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-25-06
                                                      • 5042

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      D.Williams, Parker, Rose, Bibby, Ford, Harris, Nash, M.Williams are better overall players. He barely cracks top ten.

                                                      If I was starting an NBA team today, I would take Rondo over Rose,Bibby,Ford,Harris, & Nash. You want to talk about a player who has benefited from a system, you will not find a better definition than Nash.
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                                                      • pavyracer
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                        • 82905

                                                        #62
                                                        I wouldn't draft Rondo even if he was put on waivers. I'd let him play in Europe.
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                                                        • SBR Lou
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                                                          • 08-02-07
                                                          • 37863

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                                          If I was starting an NBA team today, I would take Rondo over Rose,Bibby,Ford,Harris, & Nash. You want to talk about a player who has benefited from a system, you will not find a better definition than Nash.
                                                          Nash is a great scorer, Rondo is a great defender, both are inept at the other side of the coin- spare me Rondo's #'s of making layups.
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                                                          • Casperwaits
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-25-06
                                                            • 5042

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by CrazyLou
                                                            Nash is a great scorer, Rondo is a great defender, both are inept at the other side of the coin- spare me Rondo's #'s of making layups.
                                                            Why would I spare you Rondo's numbers with layups. Last time I checked, a lay up still counts as two points. is there a new rule in the NBA that I didn't get the memo on.... That's like saying don't count O'Neals' or Julius Irvings offensive capabilities because they both dunked a lot. Damn Lou, how often do I have to straighten you out on this thread?
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                                                            • SBR Lou
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                                                              • 08-02-07
                                                              • 37863

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                                              Why would I spare you Rondo's numbers with layups. Last time I checked, a lay up still counts as two points. is there a new rule in the NBA that I didn't get the memo on.... That's like saying don't count O'Neals' or Julius Irvings offensive capabilities because they both dunked a lot. Damn Lou, how often do I have to straighten you out on this thread?
                                                              Any player that gets inside the paint can make a layup, Rondo is a one trick pony that has a jumpshot even he does not trust. He is certainly not scaring any teams for his offense.
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                                                              • Casperwaits
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-25-06
                                                                • 5042

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by CrazyLou
                                                                Any player that gets inside the paint can make a layup, Rondo is a one trick pony that has a jumpshot even he does not trust. He is certainly not scaring any teams for his offense.
                                                                Lou, you can have your NBA team full of "offensive threats" that shoot 40% from the field, and I will take a "one trick pony" that shoots with a higher percentage. I don't know if you played any ball growing up, but I sure as hell could care less as a teammate how my team scores. A little FYI, when Rondo drives to the basket, it allows his teammates better shots because the defenders close on Rondo. This is why Rondo has so many assists. Do you think Jason Kidd was a good player in his prime? If you do, you will notice their game is very similar. Take it from someone that has played a game or two. Fantasy stats and flashy shots do not make a good ballplayer. An open vision on the court does.
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                                                                • Vincepcion
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 02-07-09
                                                                  • 834

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by NBA Hero
                                                                  dont compare someone who hasnt even play a game to CP3cp3 has earned my respect.
                                                                  "just my thought and guess. rubio is to small built for nba. he will be heckled and physically man handled esp when the calls of the ref are biased for established veteran players"

                                                                  That's what you said. I didn't say anything about talent...I am just showing how being small doesn't necessarily mean he will be manhandled. In fact, PG is the one position in the league that you can get away with being "small built"
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                                                                  • Dark Horse
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-14-05
                                                                    • 13764

                                                                    #68
                                                                    After that flagrant that wasn't called but will probably decide the series, I'd take a bench player and knock the daylight out of Rondo in the next game. Completely take his head off. And then watch if Doc Rivers is still impressed with such a professional foul.
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                                                                    • yisman
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                                      • 75682

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by CrazyLou
                                                                      Top 5 player overall, or point guard?
                                                                      top 5 point guard.

                                                                      I said he's clearly not the best point guard (Paul is), but I'd rank him behind Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Tony Parker. Possibly one more.
                                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                      [/quote]

                                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                      • HoulihansTX
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                                                                        • 02-12-09
                                                                        • 30566

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Rondo is going to be a free agent soon and will get top flight money. If rashard Lewis gets a max contract Rondo surely could.
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