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  • SBR Lou
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    • 08-02-07
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    #1
    Rondo won my respect tonight....
    Alright fine, he's had a career year.

    Do I think he'll duplicate this season, or clutchness down the stretch again? Maybe not, but props for being the best Boston player in the playoffs.
  • Casperwaits
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    • 08-25-06
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    #2
    Originally posted by CrazyLou
    Alright fine, he's had a career year.

    Do I think he'll duplicate this season, or clutchness down the stretch again? Maybe not, but props for being the best Boston player in the playoffs.

    Lou, he has only been in the league for 3 years..career year? The kid is still young, and gets better every year.
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    • tullamore
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      • 07-17-07
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      #3
      Lou rondo is a future all-star.
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      • SBR Lou
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        #4
        Originally posted by tullamore
        Lou rondo is a future all-star.
        That's an entirely different discussion, which I disagree with..
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        • Casperwaits
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          • 08-25-06
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          #5
          Originally posted by CrazyLou
          That's an entirely different discussion, which I disagree with..


          Lou, you have lost all respect from NBA pundits with that comment. Sports reporters are saying Rondo will become one of the elite. I GUARANTEE he will make the All-Star team next year (barring injury)
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          • Tsoprano
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            #6
            You are a DUMB FUKK, LOU. Rondo has been doing this for a while now.

            unreal


            Better late than never, though

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            • SBR Lou
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              #7
              Originally posted by Casperwaits


              Lou, you have lost all respect from NBA pundits with that comment. Sports reporters are saying Rondo will become one of the elite. I GUARANTEE he will make the All-Star team next year (barring injury)
              Ok so because he'll be voted in for a meaningless game once a year means he's actually an "all-star" as in "elite player"?
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              • Casperwaits
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                • 08-25-06
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                #8
                Originally posted by CrazyLou
                Ok so because he'll be voted in for a meaningless game once a year means he's actually an "all-star" as in "elite player"?

                YOU said he would not be an All-Star. Those were your words. I am saying he will be an elite player AND an All-Star.
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                • pavyracer
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                  • 04-12-07
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Casperwaits
                  Lou, he has only been in the league for 3 years..career year? The kid is still young, and gets better every year.
                  Ditto
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                  • onthewhat
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                    • 05-14-08
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                    #10
                    He is almost averaging a triple double in the series but isn't an all star type player?
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                    • SBR Lou
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                      #11
                      When I hear the term all-star, I think "one of the leagues best", not simply someone who was literally on the all-star team that year- often times the latter has to due with popularity.
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                      • WileOut
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                        • 02-04-07
                        • 3844

                        #12
                        *Stats below tell it all*

                        Rondo is the best player the Celtics have. Its that simple. He is the best PG finisher I've ever seen. He is the best defensive PG in the league. He shoots an amazingly high percentage. Starting next year he will probably lead the league in steals until he retires. He runs the offense as good or better than any PG in the league, right up there with Paul.

                        Rondo is unreal because he can create a fast break from a half court set against a half court defense.

                        Compare his stats to Rose, there is no comparison.

                        Before tonight when he scored 28 points 8 rebounds and 11 assists:

                        In the playoffs Rondo was shooting 50% for 23 points, 40% from 3, 11 rebounds per game, and 10 assists a game.

                        HE IS AVERAGING A TRIPLE DOUBLE AND ABOUT 25 POINTS A GAME.

                        Rose is decent. 20 PPG in playoffs but thats because he had that 1 36 point game. Rose is also shooting 50% but he is not counted on like Rondo. Assists aren't even close. Neither are rebounds.

                        On a side note.....Rondo knocked a tooth out of Brad Millers mouth on the last play with a punch to the face as Miller was driving and all the refs did was call a foul. Typical, horrible officiating. That is not only a flagrant but a flagrant 2. Bulls should have won the game because of that.
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                        • pavyracer
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by onthewhat
                          He is almost averaging a triple double in the series but isn't an all star type player?
                          They are playing the Bulls. Lets see how he fares with Cavs or Lakers before we call him an all star.
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                          • Casperwaits
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CrazyLou
                            When I hear the term all-star, I think "one of the leagues best", not simply someone who was literally on the all-star team that year- often times the latter has to due with popularity.

                            Lou, whatever term you want to use, Rondo is an EXCELLENT player. Stop hating. He is "one of the leagues best". If you had one good reason not to think he cannot and will not be one of the best players in the league, I would love to hear it.
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                            • Casperwaits
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                              • 08-25-06
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              They are playing the Bulls. Lets see how he fares with Cavs or Lakers before we call him an all star.
                              Pavy, he played both those teams last year, and the last time I checked, he ha a ring.
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                              • WileOut
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                                • 02-04-07
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                                #16
                                Rondo is the best PG in the league. Paul may be as good as Rondo but he is not better.
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                                • gizmo2431
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by onthewhat
                                  He is almost averaging a triple double in the series but isn't an all star type player?
                                  i think he is a great player, but when the celtics are healthy with kg, allen, and pierce all in the line-up, his stats will diminish as he will not be a go to guy. his skill will be over looked for certain because with kg in the middle, he won't be driving as much as he is now..
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                                  • pavyracer
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                    Pavy, he played both those teams last year, and the last time I checked, he ha a ring.
                                    Do you think that Rondo was the difference on Celtics winning it last year? I think KG, Allen and Pierce will disagree.
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                                    • tullamore
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                                      • 07-17-07
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                                      #19
                                      If you were going to have a draft for point guards, Rondo has t go no more than 4. I have no problem with Paul, Williams, and Rose ahead of him but who else. Rondo had been the best player in this series.
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                                      • onthewhat
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                                        • 05-14-08
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                                        #20
                                        5 Players all time have averaged a triple double in a playoff series

                                        Rajon Rondo becomes the 6th if he gets 9 assists and 9 rebounds in game 6 and the Celtics win.

                                        Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain, and Fat Lever are the five.
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                                        • pavyracer
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                                          • 04-12-07
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by WileOut
                                          Rondo is the best PG in the league. Paul may be as good as Rondo but he is not better.
                                          Lets not get carried away here. Deron Williams is the best PG and Tony Parker is second.
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                                          • SBR Lou
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                            Do you think that Rondo was the difference on Celtics winning it last year? I think KG, Allen and Pierce will disagree.
                                            The voice of reason emerges from the shadows.
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                                            • WileOut
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                                              • 02-04-07
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                                              #23
                                              tully you need to check the regular season stats and consider who plays for each team before you say he is 4th. I would draft Rondo 1st. The only reason he doesn't lead the league in steals is because the Celtics simply don't give their opponents as many possessions as other teams do.

                                              Pavy I disagree. Rondo is the best finisher and the best defensive PG. He is definately the most clutch and that may be the biggest factor.
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                                              • tullamore
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                Do you think that Rondo was the difference on Celtics winning it last year? I think KG, Allen and Pierce will disagree.

                                                Whats last year have to do with it. Rondo is far and away a better player this year.
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                                                • Tsoprano
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by WileOut
                                                  Rondo is the best PG in the league. Paul may be as good as Rondo but he is not better.
                                                  agree 110%
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                                                  • Casperwaits
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                                                    #26
                                                    Lou, you still haven't given me a reason to say that Rondo will not become an elite player. As far as Pavy's comments are concerned, I NEVER said that Rondo was the reason they won it. All I said is that he has played both of those teams already and played well. Am I the only one on this forum that reads what people say and write. Lou, do me a favor and when you have a valid reason to put down Rondo, say something. Until then, just accept the man is the future of the NBA.
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                                                    • SBR Lou
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                                      Lou, do me a favor and when you have a valid reason to put down Rondo, say something. Until then, just accept the man is the future of the NBA.
                                                      I'll concede that when he trusts his jumpshot enough to use it frequently, and when he is capable of winning as "the" guy. He's in a great situation, he's best suited to be a facilitator and defender rather than a true take over the game type of player like a Kobe or Chauncey Billups.
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                                                      • WileOut
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                                                        #28
                                                        Chauncey Billups is slow as mollasses (sp?). He can hit the 3 and is as clutch as Rondo is, but defensively and getting to the rim there is no comparison. Also rebounding there is no comparison.
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                                                        • pavyracer
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                                                          #29
                                                          You guys are crazy. If Deron Williams or Tony Parker was playing for Celtics in this series with Bulls the Celtics would have swept. Rondo let a rookie score 54 points in his debut for Christ's sake! Let your bong pipes down before you call Rondo the best PG in the league.
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                                                          • tullamore
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CrazyLou
                                                            I'll concede that when he trusts his jumpshot enough to use it frequently, and when he is capable of winning as "the" guy. He's in a great situation, he's best suited to be a facilitator and defender rather than a true take over the game type of player like a Kobe or Chauncey Billups.

                                                            This is what I want out of a pg.
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                                                            • Casperwaits
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                              You guys are crazy. If Deron Williams or Tony Parker was playing for Celtics in this series with Bulls the Celtics would have swept. Rondo let a rookie score 54 points in his debut for Christ's sake! Let your bong pipes down before you call Rondo the best PG in the league.

                                                              Ummm, no if Williams or Parker were playing for the Celtics, the series would still be 3-2. I hav not called Rondo the best in the league, but I assure you if he continues improving like he has in the last 3 years he will surpass Williams shortly and surpass Parker in 3 years.
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                                                              • WileOut
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                                                                • 02-04-07
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                                                                #32
                                                                pavy let me take this over for you. I like you and we are from the same state but you are really delirious tonight. Has bread threatened you on your voice mail? Something is not right.

                                                                Rose had the game of his career that night. Nobody could have stopped him its that simple. The best defensive player ever could not have done anything.
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                                                                • pavyracer
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Rondo is very erratic. He loses his cool easily, he is a mediocre defender, an average passer and can't create his own shot. I can list more but this is why he was an average player both in Kentucky and will be an average player in NBA. He is not gifted. Period!
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                                                                  • Casperwaits
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                    Rondo is very erratic. He loses his cool easily, he is a mediocre defender, an average passer and can't create his own shot. I can list more but this is why he was an average player both in Kentucky and will be an average player in NBA. He is not gifted. Period!

                                                                    Let me break this down

                                                                    He loses his cool very easily..? Do I have to name a certain elite player whose name rhymes with DeRon that loses his cool as well?

                                                                    Mediocore defender? Rose has had one good game in this series. That's all. Steals are huge for Rondo. You usually get those when you are DEFENDING!!!

                                                                    Rondo creates his own shot EVERY time he drives to the basket. That is creation in every sense.

                                                                    Rondo being called not gifted is like calling JJ Gold hirstute.
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                                                                    • pavyracer
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Name one Kentucky player since Pitino left that made the all star game?
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