lakers game had to be fixed

[unde0087]

I thought the game was poorly reffed but some of this sh1t evens out, Lakers miss FT's, Jazz couldn't get a foul called on the Lakers.

This is totally correct. If you watched the game, Lakers got a foul called on every missed shot around the rim even if they didn't get fouled. Jazz didnt get any help from the refs. Jazz got fouled on about every play in the last 5 minutes of that game, not even counting the first 3 quarters and didn't get any calls unless it was so obvious that they had to call it.

This is a case of betting the NBA. I ended up on the side that caught the break. But it is the same for the NO game. You don't know which team is going to lay down. It is a league of over paid players that can quit playing or just not even show up to play no matter what is on the line.

[jsmithj88]

thats a great point
there was NO FIX
every1 screaming that there was a fix bet on the lakers

[BobHarvey]

This is totally correct. If you watched the game, Lakers got a foul called on every missed shot around the rim even if they didn't get fouled. Jazz didnt get any help from the refs. Jazz got fouled on about every play in the last 5 minutes of that game, not even counting the first 3 quarters and didn't get any calls unless it was so obvious that they had to call it.

This is a case of betting the NBA. I ended up on the side that caught the break. But it is the same for the NO game. You don't know which team is going to lay down. It is a league of over paid players that can quit playing or just not even show up to play no matter what is on the line.

So we agree the NBA is anything less than a smart bet be it playoffs or regular season. I think the same is true about the college game as well.

Does that leave us with hockey and baseball as the only TRUE sports to wager on?

[Mriswith]

Go take a look at the Lakers' history of covering DD spreads and then come back and tell me again this game was fixed and LAL did not cover on purpose, be it the players, refs or Phil Jackson. I dare you even to say it was that much of a surprise LAL dind't cover.

Refs aside, the players and especially Jackson are out not to cover spreads, not to win games ( though they have to ) but to win the title. LAL so far has shown me nothing but the fact that they are capable of blowing out opponents, but rarely do. Jackson wanted to win the series vs UTA to advance to the next round and he did with the least effort involved - and UTA was no match for the Lakers, who controlled this series. Only game UTA was able to take away was G3 when LAL had a horrible shooting %, and truth be told, the Lakers could afford to give this game. Taking game 4 and closing the series in 5 in LAL fit into the overall scheme for this series : one extra game away actually was good to prepare for future rounds, keeping the rhythm with no extra strain ( like travelling ) put on a healthy team. Imho that is how confident Jackson was - trusting in LAL's ability to take the series at will.

Take a closer look at G4, the only game LAL did put up some effort to not allow UTA to get close like within a one or two possession. Now ask yourself if that was coincidence : I say no. Game 4 was the game Jackson wanted to decide this series and not just win the game. There is a gain in blowing out an opponent when there is a game left to be played ( DEN @ NOH ne1 ? ) - building one's own confidence while crushing the opponent's, making him doubt his ability and tactics. The so called message sending. And while it takes some extra effort in game 4, it'll allow to save strength / minute watching in game 5, since a good 1st half max 3 QTRs will be enough to win the last game. But effort put into beating an already beaten opponent is ill put...

Actually I do understand Jackson not panicking and pulling the bench players at the first sign of trouble - look at MIA and / or NOH. While it's great to have outstanding players like Kobe, DWade or CP3 on your team and you most certainly apppreciate - and from time to time will have to fall back upon - their ability to get you a win all on their own, you do want to prepare for their 'off-nights', and that's nothing you'll achieve if you never let their teammates get in situations where they'll have to take responsibility and create plays on their own instead of w8ing for the top star to hand them the game / the open shot on a silver plate.

Im neither a Zen Master nor anywhere close to a - maybe the - NBA Head Coach, not even a basketball coach, but 20 years of coaching teams taught me one thing for sure : even if you can't win them all, you do want to win the big ones and therefore look beyond a single game.

rgz,
Mris

[jjgold]

Lakers let up, was not fixed.

[dennisback]

i played 1h every lakers game @ home and they covered everytime... they play a lot harder in 1H than 2h

[scratch man]

like the heat game was not enough of a question mark for a fixed game then this laker bs missing that many freebies give me a break i guess that we missed a crooked ref after last years ref was caught it is so obvious

[Mac4Lyfe]

Hmm. I would think the Feds and the NBA offices would be monitoring the NBA quite a bit after the Donaghy disaster.

The NBA office is in on the fix...



For those that say it couldn't be fixed because the cover was so close, don't you realize that that is what makes a great fix. Why would you be so obvious in a game so heavily watched?

All it takes is one player or ref to greatly influence the line. Fisher or Odum could have been in on the fix and we would never know. What I do know is that most of the coaches, players and refs can tell you what the line is...

[MonkeyF0cker]

Well if you think that, you're an absolute idiot for betting the games.

[Mriswith]

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[Mac4Lyfe]

Well if you think that, you're an absolute idiot for betting the games.

The key is figuring out what side the fix is on

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[pico]

looks like it.

[RoagBettor]

It's not the players, it's the refs and perhaps some coaches. Players miss free throws; if you're up 10 with a minute left and the spread is 12 they don't care, they know the game is over. The refs control the game with how they call fouls, and the coaches with their substitution patterns.

Plus, you see players hitting 3's like crazy at the end of games. You need to make those shots to get the backdoor cover, and they're tough shots to make.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Well it's a proven fact that players, ref's and some coaches have all been in on the take in all sports.. If the money is right people will find a way to get it. The NBA tries to pay players enough money to where they won't even contemplate a fix. To say that all games are not fixed is just wrong because history has proven otherwise.

[Thor4140]

I dont know about fixed, I just wish there was some consistency with the way fouls are called. I have no clue what a foul is in the NBA, certain players can do whatever they want while others cant breath on a player. Its aggravating to watch even if I dont have money on the game.

Let me try to teach u about fouls or flags. If a team has a lot of money bet on them 9 out of 10 times they will get more flags and fouls. Bout sums it up.

[RoagBettor]

Scrubs rarely get a chance to influence the outcome of a game, and the stars make too much money to fix a game. The refs can call 2 quick fouls and take a key player right out of the game. Watch today's games, whichever star gets 2 quick fouls, their team is most likely going down.

[NBA Hero]

of course there is game fixing.you think vegas is an idiot.so they are just so wise to win tons of cash or they are cheating the public.you dont need the right IQ level to pick which is the correct call.so RLM spring out of no where. and why people keep on saying the public is on this team and look at the line movement. dont be a prick when you know deep in your thoghts that there is a fix.and btw, i was on utah +12.people might say im lashing out cause i lost.also picked den +2 and mia -4.5.i just dont want to be a hypocrite.well, on to the next day/ games

[NBA Hero]

Scrubs rarely get a chance to influence the outcome of a game, and the stars make too much money to fix a game. The refs can call 2 quick fouls and take a key player right out of the game. Watch today's games, whichever star gets 2 quick fouls, their team is most likely going down.

thats exactly one thing ive noticed.look at the calls on bos-chi game. and den-noh game. even bynum got 5fouls on 7 something mins on game3. thats a masterpiece work of the refs.

[Dark Horse]

I'm ranting about this in another thread but after tonight and especially the last minute, I'm convinced more than ever that the NBA is a sucker bet. There's just too many unanswered questions in a majority of the games.

NBA means 'Never Bet Again'... Unless you clearly see that 'Nothing Beats Anger'.

It's a game of motivations and habits. The hard part to understand is that these change from game to game, but also during different 'chapters' throughout the season. You have to pick your spots.

I only play the NBA from January 1st to mid April, with the emphasis on the period after the ASB (click on sig for >60% ATS NBA record at wagerline).

[una13ombr]

no player is gonna fix a game ...they could care less bro they are just wanting to win a championshipp

why would they care about spreads? they get MILLIONS

this might be the stupidest post i have seen at SBR to this date...jesus ****...fixed game by the players


this aint pete rose son!

[Dark Horse]

Fixes are hard to prove, as Stern so 'reluctantly' admitted... When the Jazz came close last night at the end, they couldn't get a call, even when practically assaulted during layups. How is that not suspect? Sloan must have thought he was dreaming. So he was thrown out. lol Hey, the Lakers are money for the NBA, and the Jazz are not. To close the net, the NBA hands out huge fines to coaches criticizing the refs. Which other sport does that?!

Fixing happens. In all sports. Betting syndicates make sure of that. Players may be less easily influenced than refs, but they still are subject to blackmail. The UEFA is investigating a huge number of games for possible fixing; the biggest sport in the world... lol Books are very cautious of tennis matches these days. And one NBA ref got caught; where there is smoke, there is fire. Stern, of course, assured the world that Donaghy was the only one. Now how could he know that? And if he doesn't really know, why would he say that? To keep up the facade. People are very ready to believe, not because a facade resembles reality, but because they want to.

Watch the refs during close games in LA, especially later in playoff series. And keep in mind that the most watched NBA finals would be between Kobe and Lebron. This doesn't meant that such a finals would prove the fix, though. Personally, I have little interest in the topic beyond late game decisions in LA or Cleveland, late in series.

[bobbyheart]

What about Orlando game on sunday night? Up by 10 with two minutes left and somehow the only win by 3 when the spread was 4? Come on! The public took Orlando and you are meaning to tell me some shit doesnt go on with Vegas and the NBA?

[bobbyheart]

Fixing games aren't neccessarily by players, except for maybe some college b-ball, but NBA it is done by refs for sure...there are a lot of politics and tons of money on the line for games not to be fixed a certain way, especially when it does not change the outcome on who wins....this is why i hate betting basketball. Too much power in the hands of refs...

[stakagrp]

[quote=unde0087;1790596]This is totally correct. If you watched the game, Lakers got a foul called on every missed shot around the rim even if they didn't get fouled. Jazz didnt get any help from the refs. Jazz got fouled on about every play in the last 5 minutes of that game, not even counting the first 3 quarters and didn't get any calls unless it was so obvious that they had to call it.

I totally agree. I watched the entire game and hardly saw any fouls called on the Lakers and plenty against the Jazz. Other than that throughout the entire game there were so many fouls that weren't called at all as if the officials were trying to keep the game from going over the total. Any sport that can be wagered on can be fixed, but some more so than others such as the NBA!

[Flyers09]

mac4lyfe more pics dude lol

[specialedbob]

Well, the reason the game is fix is because the player's salary has to be realigned.

"I have one of the cleanest butt's in america,why, because I don't stop wiping until I see red streak's".

Special Ed. Bob