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  • pico
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-05-07
    • 27321

    #36
    Originally posted by VegasDave
    I'm sorry you feel this way. I've addressed this issue as best I can after the fact.
    you should work for betUS. they'll love you there.
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    • pico
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-05-07
      • 27321

      #37
      Originally posted by onthewhat
      Pico makes $15k bets on USC moneylines and is worried about having a 1 in 15 chance of winning $100?

      Doesn't pass the smell test.

      Give it up pico man
      onner, stay out of this. usc ml i lost fair and square. this is something different. like i said before, it is not about the money.
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      • Bread
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-16-08
        • 23726

        #38
        The only right way this should be handled is for JJ to pay Pico and the other 2 doods $100 each.

        He has set a precedent here, and it should be continued.
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        • VegasDave
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-03-07
          • 8056

          #39
          Originally posted by smitch124
          What I've seen others do in similar survivor contests when this type of thing happens, is make the person who has chosen the canceled game choose 2 the next day.

          So in this case Pico would have to choose 2 pitchers to go 6 innings and both have to make it for him to advance.
          This is not a bad suggestion at all, and one I will definitely consider for the next time we run one of these.

          Of course if I put this rule in retroactively, aren't I guilty of the very thing pico is adamantly against me doing, changing the rules as we go? My decision on this was the best possible one I could make under the current circumstances as the rules read now.

          Adding a rule like this one (which is again a good idea for the next one) after the fact to allow these three posters to continue would be even less fair than my initial ruling.
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          • onthewhat
            Restricted User
            • 05-14-08
            • 15411

            #40
            Basically it is pico's fault...he waited until there was 1 game on the board to make his selection and it had already been rained out.

            The threads are up well before first pitch of the first game, he has ample time to make his selection. You should make your selection early to avoid situations like that.
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            • pico
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-05-07
              • 27321

              #41
              onner, some of us has to sleep at night.
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              • onthewhat
                Restricted User
                • 05-14-08
                • 15411

                #42
                Then make your selections the day before like others do
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82905

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Bread
                  The only right way this should be handled is for JJ to pay Pico and the other 2 doods $100 each.

                  He has set a precedent here, and it should be continued.
                  Great advice.
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82905

                    #44
                    Originally posted by onthewhat
                    Then make your selections the day before like others do
                    He fukking lives in Hong Kong onner! Is he supposed to change his sleeping patterns and buy satellite TV to get US weather updates and sport news so he can play fair and square in the SBR contests?

                    I strongly support pico in this one. VD did him wrong.
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                    • AgainstAllOdds
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-24-08
                      • 6053

                      #45
                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                      AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                      • onthewhat
                        Restricted User
                        • 05-14-08
                        • 15411

                        #46
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        He fukking lives in Hong Kong onner! Is he supposed to change his sleeping patterns and buy satellite TV to get US weather updates and sport news so he can play fair and square in the SBR contests?

                        I strongly support pico in this one. VD did him wrong.
                        Where does making selections the day before imply that he should change sleeping patterns? Many people PM Dave or post there picks in another thread before the games get posted because they aren't available to post during the day, similar to Pico.

                        Either don't enter the contest, or find a way to get your picks in if you do enter.
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                        • RogueScholar
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-05-07
                          • 5082

                          #47
                          First of all I want to weigh in on this dispute. I believe Dave handled this situation correctly, and in the most responsible manner possible. I've been dissatisfied with SBR Contests in the past, but Dave's fair decision and willingness to confront the criticism has started to change my mind. Dave did the only thing he could, apologized for an unfortunate situation and promised to learn from this experience.

                          When you pick the last game on the board in a Survivor contest, you're leaving yourself open to a poor result. If you're entering a contest based on an American sport, don't then whine and bitch when you have to wake up a little earlier or stay up later to be able to play the game effectively. The onus is on the player to avail himself of the schedule of the sport being played, not the other way around. If you want to live outside the U.S., go join a contest based on a sport played where you live, or don't complain when your time zone places you at a disadvantage that could be foreseen when you joined up.

                          Pico, this whole rant makes you look as though you stopped gambling because you went flat broke. Just let the issue die before you make yourself look worse. If Lou were running this contest, you'd have a leg to stand on because he wouldn't articulate his position the way Dave has. Dave took ownership of this issue, handled it in a way that couldn't be criticized, and now the matter is concluded. Be glad SBR has somebody like Dave running the contests, now...at least it didn't take him two weeks to grade which pitchers had lasted 6 innings...

                          Originally posted by StraitShooter
                          90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                          • Bread
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-16-08
                            • 23726

                            #48
                            Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds

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                            • pico
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 04-05-07
                              • 27321

                              #49
                              rs, i got screwed. i don't care about what these degens think of me because this place is not real. rules are very important for online wagering. i am proving a point here.

                              you think i care about bodog account? i can't even cash out at this point because i have no US bank accounts or US address.
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                              • Bread
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-16-08
                                • 23726

                                #50
                                My pick today just got taken out in the 6th. Pico is right this contest is rigged!!!
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                                • themajormt
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-30-08
                                  • 3964

                                  #51
                                  You are playing in an AMERICAN contest in AMERICAN time zones... You should have placed it earlier, why would you wait until that game out of all the games that were on the board? It's not Dave's fault you live in sushi land!! Post earlier next time!
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                                  • RogueScholar
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-05-07
                                    • 5082

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by pico
                                    rs, i got screwed. i don't care about what these degens think of me because this place is not real. rules are very important for online wagering. i am proving a point here.

                                    you think i care about bodog account? i can't even cash out at this point because i have no US bank accounts or US address.
                                    Pico, as much as I like you, I disagree that you got screwed. You picked a game in a Survivor contest that was already off the board. Pretty much every sports site reflected that information. I use CBS Sports and it was about 4 minutes after the announcement on ESPN that the game was listed as "PPD - Rain" online.

                                    If you can't even cash out, then why even bother? Why concern yourself with staying up late to pick a game, or jumping through these hoops. If you just want to track picks, there's always Wagerline.

                                    While I agree that rules are very important for wagering, your issue is that the rules were poorly constructed to begin with. You entered a contest knowing the rules were written this way, and you already accomplished that they will be written better the next time. Nothing more will come out of the situation, so I hope you don't spend anymore time thinking about it.

                                    I for one would like to thank you for exposing the loophole and allowing us to review the situation as a community. If you didn't start this thread, few of us would even have thought about the great idea Smitch suggested. You might not feel satisfied, Pico, but you accomplished something good here.

                                    Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                    90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82905

                                      #53
                                      There were several times while I was participating at SBR contests that I had to fly to Europe or Africa for business for several days. My permanent residence is in the US but I can access SBR from any continent so the time difference issue is a problem for many posters.
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                                      • themajormt
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-30-08
                                        • 3964

                                        #54
                                        But the time difference is understood going into the contest... He knew what times the games are played, its his fault for waiting until the last minute. If he posted BEFORE it was announced that it was postponed then he would have a gripe, but he didnt.
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                                        • Bread
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-16-08
                                          • 23726

                                          #55
                                          I want my money back. Pico and Bread gonna turn this place upside down until we are refunded

                                          <---Bread

                                          <---Pico

                                          <---Vags Dave
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                                          • Iwinyourmoney
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-18-07
                                            • 18368

                                            #56
                                            unreal. Pico got shafted.
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                                            • pico
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 04-05-07
                                              • 27321

                                              #57
                                              RS, i am playing because this is how i deal with my gambling addiction. i have no intention of cashing out...just for the fun lasting longer than other degens. same reason goes for the sbr best bet of the day, the mlb moneyline contest, and the 64 man contest. for the 64 man contest, i can't even access some of the sportsbook websites here, so i am not even getting the full prize even if i win some kind of prize (and i have no intention cashing out those either). like i said before, not about the money. just the fact that people doesn't know mlb and created some wacky contest end up have to change rules as problems arise. it is like having sammy run a sportsbook. bunch of amateurs.

                                              if this is how sbr run things, then rickhas is not a stiff. he simply changed the rules as the contest goes as he sees fit.
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                                              • Bread
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-16-08
                                                • 23726

                                                #58
                                                Never seen Pico so angry. This is intense.
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                                                • pico
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 04-05-07
                                                  • 27321

                                                  #59
                                                  bread, i am not angry. 1/16 shot at sportsbooks rollover money is not real money.
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                                                  • AgainstAllOdds
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                    • 6053

                                                    #60
                                                    Out of the SBR newsroom.

                                                    Incorrect ruling leads to uproar.


                                                    On Monday April 20th, 2009, Pico along with 2 other posters were robbed on a contest by VegasDave in which the mod fumbled the contest rules to his liking and then made an incorrect ruling to kick out three posters. He later went on to say there was nothing he could do and his decision was final.

                                                    Unreal.
                                                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                    AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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