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  • khicks26
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    • 09-16-06
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    #1086
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    • dante1
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      • 10-31-05
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      #1087
      Originally posted by d2bets
      Oh, they talk about income inequality. They just claim that if you cut taxes for the rich, they'll invest it and magically it will trickle down to Joe Schmo and everyone will be richer.

      yeah they started talking about income inequality lately but it is all bs. all of a sudden they are interested in this topic, more bs. you know why they are on this topic now, because basically it is the only ammo they have against an economy that has improved dramatically. but don't get me wrong it is a huge issue and an issue better addressed by progressives than conservatives, if they are so interested in income inequality why do they fight against min wage laws. oh they give bs reasons why it is bad but they have all proven to be wrong.
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      • Jayvegas420
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        • 03-09-11
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        #1088
        D2bets is right. There is no such thing as the trickle down effect.
        It's complete bull

        Please tell me itchy pickle was joking.
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        • dante1
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          • 10-31-05
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          #1089
          Originally posted by Jayvegas420
          D2bets is right. There is no such thing as the trickle down effect.
          It's complete bull

          Please tell me itchy pickle was joking.


          Of course it is bs. that has been settled years ago.

          I find it hard to believe that IP said otherwise, he is one of the very few that has some brain cells.
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          • DABOOK
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            • 03-02-11
            • 3662

            #1090
            Is is an I. Q. thing. Look up any independant study on which states have the lowest I. Q. You will see that they almost all vote exclusively Republican. No matter what. Its a shame. Its like an abusive relationship. The more abuse the more he or she loves the abuser. Republicans enact Policys that will certainly hurt low I Q low skilled workers. Those same people vote them in. I will never understand it
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            • dante1
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              #1091
              Originally posted by DABOOK
              Is is an I. Q. thing. Look up any independant study on which states have the lowest I. Q. You will see that they almost all vote exclusively Republican. No matter what. Its a shame. Its like an abusive relationship. The more abuse the more he or she loves the abuser. Republicans enact Policys that will certainly hurt low I Q low skilled workers. Those same people vote them in. I will never understand it

              right, me too. books have been written about this. yeah actually, at least one that I know of. the poor voting against their own interest time after time. I was fond of saying that the conservative party can get 50% of the people to support them at the same time they support 1% of the nation. It is an enigma.
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              • DwightShrute
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                • 01-17-09
                • 102357

                #1092
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                • ACoochy
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                  • 08-19-09
                  • 13949

                  #1093
                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
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                  18 trillion in the hole and he's the economic illiterate

                  Cant buy this kinda stoopid...
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                  • DwightShrute
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                    • 01-17-09
                    • 102357

                    #1094
                    Originally posted by ACoochy
                    18 trillion in the hole and he's the economic illiterate

                    Cant buy this kinda stoopid...
                    it 19 trillion and will be 21 trillion when Obama leaves.

                    I don't understand your point
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                    • ACoochy
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                      • 08-19-09
                      • 13949

                      #1095
                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                      it 19 trillion and will be 21 trillion when Obama leaves.

                      I don't understand your point
                      Of course you dont understand so let me spell it out.

                      How ironic is it to call Bernie a financial illiterate when the ppl calling him that are part of a economy that supports the current status quo.

                      That being 19 trillion in the hole YET are too scared to change things in a way that would make a difference...

                      Uneducated and ill informed basically. A bit like you actually...
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                      • DwightShrute
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                        • 01-17-09
                        • 102357

                        #1096
                        Originally posted by ACoochy
                        Of course you dont understand so let me spell it out.

                        How ironic is it to call Bernie a financial illiterate when the ppl calling him that are part of a economy that supports the current status quo.

                        That being 19 trillion in the hole YET are too scared to change things in a way that would make a difference...

                        Uneducated and ill informed basically. A bit like you actually...
                        what will BS do fix the debt? He's been in Washington forever. He is the problem. You don't get it. Dem or Rep, they are puppets for most of the same people. Its a big scam. They trick the public to fight over which party is best while they keep stealing and making the country worse. You are their favorite type. Sheeple. They spend fortunes figuring out how to do this to people like you. They ain't stupid. They know the public is.


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                        • KingJD31
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                          • 11-04-11
                          • 8167

                          #1097
                          How is "free" healthcare and college going to help out with the debt? He will shatter obama and Bush in spending
                          Originally posted by ACoochy
                          Of course you dont understand so let me spell it out.

                          How ironic is it to call Bernie a financial illiterate when the ppl calling him that are part of a economy that supports the current status quo.

                          That being 19 trillion in the hole YET are too scared to change things in a way that would make a difference...

                          Uneducated and ill informed basically. A bit like you actually...
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                          • brooks85
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                            • 01-05-09
                            • 44709

                            #1098
                            Originally posted by ACoochy
                            Of course you dont understand so let me spell it out.

                            How ironic is it to call Bernie a financial illiterate when the ppl calling him that are part of a economy that supports the current status quo.

                            That being 19 trillion in the hole YET are too scared to change things in a way that would make a difference
                            ...

                            Uneducated and ill informed basically. A bit like you actually...
                            another example of how stupid acoochy is. No idea what he is talking about as usual.
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                            • KingJD31
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                              • 11-04-11
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                              #1099
                              From what you're saying coochy is very conservative of you, you want us to cut spending? Proud of you
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                              • rkelly110
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                                • 10-05-09
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                                #1100
                                Originally posted by KingJD31
                                From what you're saying coochy is very conservative of you, you want us to cut spending? Proud of you
                                Yet, it's a proven fact cutting taxes increases debt.

                                How low can the Repubs go in cutting taxes for the rich and job creators to spur economic/ infrastructure growth?
                                It worked ONE time under Reagan. Even then he ran up the debt/ deficit.

                                I'm telling you right now. If we get a Repub Pres and still have a Repub controlled congress, we are fukked.

                                It's a proven fact Repubs run up the debt. It's a proven fact they hate entitlements. It's a proven fact they will
                                put us in a war of some type causing recessions. You WILL fear for your job, guaranteed.

                                They always fuk with entitlements. Medicare/ aide and SS. Bush with his voucher bullshit. Christie is talking
                                working until you're 70. They snuck in an extra year on me when I wasn't looking, motherfukkers.

                                You guys go right ahead and vote for everything you are against. Unless you are rich, you are fukked.
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                                • DwightShrute
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                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 102357

                                  #1101
                                  Originally posted by rkelly110
                                  Yet, it's a proven fact cutting taxes increases debt.

                                  How low can the Repubs go in cutting taxes for the rich and job creators to spur economic/ infrastructure growth?
                                  It worked ONE time under Reagan. Even then he ran up the debt/ deficit.

                                  I'm telling you right now. If we get a Repub Pres and still have a Repub controlled congress, we are fukked.

                                  It's a proven fact Repubs run up the debt. It's a proven fact they hate entitlements. It's a proven fact they will
                                  put us in a war of some type causing recessions. You WILL fear for your job, guaranteed.

                                  They always fuk with entitlements. Medicare/ aide and SS. Bush with his voucher bullshit. Christie is talking
                                  working until you're 70. They snuck in an extra year on me when I wasn't looking, motherfukkers.

                                  You guys go right ahead and vote for everything you are against. Unless you are rich, you are fukked.
                                  its a proven fact under Obama the US racked up more debt than every other president in US history COMBINED!!!! Millions more living in poverty, a record number living on food stamps and more people out of the workforce since the 70's.

                                  Your only solution is to raise taxes. Were you dropped on your head as a child?
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                                  • ACoochy
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                                    • 08-19-09
                                    • 13949

                                    #1102
                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                    its a proven fact before Obama the US racked up more debt than every other president in US history COMBINED!!!! As a result Millions more living in poverty, a record number living on food stamps and more people out of the workforce since the 70's.

                                    Your only solution is to raise taxes. Were you dropped on your head as a child?
                                    Agree
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                                    • rkelly110
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                                      • 10-05-09
                                      • 39691

                                      #1103
                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                      its a proven fact under Obama the US racked up more debt than every other president in US history COMBINED!!!! Millions more living in poverty, a record number living on food stamps and more people out of the workforce since the 70's.

                                      Your only solution is to raise taxes. Were you dropped on your head as a child?
                                      Why is that Dwight? Dig deeper. Two wars, kept Bush's tax cuts and stimulated the economy which is doing well.

                                      Tell me how bad we would be if he didn't stimulate the economy and used austerity measures instead. Look
                                      at europe for your answer.
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        • 01-17-09
                                        • 102357

                                        #1104
                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                        Why is that Dwight? Dig deeper. Two wars, kept Bush's tax cuts and stimulated the economy which is doing well.

                                        Tell me how bad we would be if he didn't stimulate the economy and used austerity measures instead. Look
                                        at europe for your answer.
                                        how did he stimulate the economy?
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                                        • rkelly110
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                                          • 10-05-09
                                          • 39691

                                          #1105
                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                          how did he stimulate the economy?
                                          Are you awake yet? Stimulus package? Remember that? Bank and auto bailouts? Tax cuts to working
                                          men and women?
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                                          • DwightShrute
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                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 102357

                                            #1106
                                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                                            Are you awake yet? Stimulus package? Remember that? Bank and auto bailouts?
                                            sigh
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                                            • dante1
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                                              • 10-31-05
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                                              #1107
                                              with the exception of Germany the US recovery was the best in the world. now granted the recovery was not all that it could have been and that is precisely because the stimulus wasn't large enough. many economists agree with this, but naturally the crazies will argue. but they have no argument against our recovery being one of the tops in the world. dwightie, the poor kid hasn't one clue about economic thought and policy, he has proven that many times. he can't discuss policy. what he does is rehash the same old bs talking points and doesn't realize they are becoming dated.

                                              nothing new from dwightie in this argument, his only defense is...we spend too much money. poor kid he is one trick pony.

                                              oh and btw his hero is trump who the way he talks will out spend Obama by billions, just think of the cost of the fence, how about the cost of rounding up immigrants. what is his position on the health care. that is okay, becaue that is his guy. like I said he hasn't one fcking clue. almost forgot about the military, he will be the biggest spending president in the history of the US out spending obama in his first year.
                                              Last edited by dante1; 01-21-16, 11:00 AM.
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                                              • dante1
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                                                • 10-31-05
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                                                #1108



                                                hundreds of billions, and dwightie is so concerned about wasted money, but not with his guy that is okay.
                                                hasn't one fcking clue.
                                                Last edited by dante1; 01-21-16, 11:14 AM.
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                                                • DwightShrute
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                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                  • 102357

                                                  #1109
                                                  Originally Posted by rkelly110
                                                  Are you awake yet? Stimulus package? Remember that? Bank and auto bailouts?

                                                  I have no problem with a stimulus package if politicians made sure they spent people's money responsibly. Is that even possible anymore? Maybe.

                                                  Is it really asking so much from politicians to spend your hard earned money responsibly?

                                                  Admitting Obama is corrupt, just isn't part of many liberal's self-imposed DNA. Making excuses and/or deflecting seems to work better. They think it does.

                                                  The 10 Most Outrageous Stimulus Projects

                                                  <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">freebeacon.com/.../the-10-most-outrageous...</cite>
                                                  The Washington Free Beacon
                                                  Feb 17, 2014 - Five years and at least $816.3 billion later, here are 10 ways the government wasted taxpayer money. 10) $1.3 Million for Stimulus Highway ...



                                                  100 Wasteful Stimulus Projects That Actually Cost America ...
                                                  <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">www.businessinsider.com/mccain-100-wasteful-stimulus-...</cite>
                                                  Business Insider
                                                  Aug 3, 2010 - mccain coburn list ... replacing a new sidewalk with an even newer one, ormoney for a ... Worst of all, some stimulus projects are actually costing jobs and .... I'm certain that McCain has wasted so much money on defense ...



                                                  Billions In Stimulus Funds Wasted - Judicial Watch
                                                  <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">www.judicialwatch.org/.../billions-stimulus-funds-already-...</cite>
                                                  Judicial Watch
                                                  Jun 16, 2009 - At least $55 billion of U.S. stimulus funds that President Barack Obama promised would jumpstart the economy and put Americans back to work ...



                                                  Data Shows that the Stimulus Package Was a Waste of Money
                                                  <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">www.usnews.com/.../data-shows-that-the-stim...</cite>
                                                  U.S. News & World Report
                                                  Dec 19, 2009 - All the stimulus did was put Obama 6.1 million jobs in the hole. ... actually lengthening the recession by effectively taking money out of the ...



                                                  IRS wasted $5.6B on bogus Obama stimulus tax credits: Audit
                                                  <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">www.washingtontimes.com/.../irs-wasted-56b-bo...</cite>
                                                  The Washington Times
                                                  May 5, 2015 - IRS wasted $5.6B on bogus Obama stimulus tax credits, audit finds .... Ms. Holland blamed a lack of money for her agency's inability to do more, ...



                                                  Stimulus bill enabled billions in waste, exploitation of ...
                                                  <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">hotair.com/.../stimulus-bill-enabled-billions-in-waste-exploitation...</cite>
                                                  Hot Air
                                                  Sep 8, 2014 - Oh, don't forget that the Department of Labor spent $80 million of thatstimulus money to protect workers, while HUD apparently couldn't have ...



                                                  Report: 'Stimulus' Wasted Billions of Taxpayer Money on ...
                                                  <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">https://pjmedia.com/.../report-stimulus-wasted-billions-of-taxpa...</cite>
                                                  PJ Media
                                                  Jul 29, 2015 - Wasteful pork-barrel spending on Internet service for low-income communities isn't new government folly; the evidence shows these programs ...




                                                  Last edited by DwightShrute; 01-21-16, 11:21 AM.
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                                                  • brooks85
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                                                    • 01-05-09
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                                                    #1110
                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                    Are you awake yet? Stimulus package? Remember that? Bank and auto bailouts? Tax cuts to working
                                                    men and women?
                                                    lol!

                                                    rkelly, you are penetrating cluess on what the economy is(you have already proven this more than once)if you think he "stimulated" the economy. lol I just imagine being as ignorant as you, just comical to me.
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                                                    • rkelly110
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                                                      • 10-05-09
                                                      • 39691

                                                      #1111
                                                      What you fail to comprehend Dwight, the Repubs signed off on the stimulus. After realizing it did good for the country, they were against it. Oh no! Can't give him a legacy!!!!

                                                      Yes, the govt always wastes our money and it's disgusting.

                                                      You've heard me before say this. When your employer gives you your paycheck, he can't tell you how to spend it.
                                                      Trouble is, the Repubs think that it's THEIR money.

                                                      Stop blaming Obama and the Dems for everything, open your eyes and look in the mirror.
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                                                      • brooks85
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                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 44709

                                                        #1112
                                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                        What you fail to comprehend Dwight, the Repubs signed off on the stimulus. After realizing it did good for the country, they were against it. Oh no! Can't give him a legacy!!!!

                                                        Yes, the govt always wastes our money and it's disgusting.

                                                        You've heard me before say this. When your employer gives you your paycheck, he can't tell you how to spend it.
                                                        Trouble is, the Repubs think that it's THEIR money.

                                                        Stop blaming Obama and the Dems for everything, open your eyes and look in the mirror.
                                                        yeah stop blaming the party that thrives off the lower class of society under the guise of helping them. Yeah!!
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                                                        • rkelly110
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                                                          • 10-05-09
                                                          • 39691

                                                          #1113
                                                          Originally posted by brooks85
                                                          lol!

                                                          rkelly, you are penetrating cluess on what the economy is(you have already proven this more than once)if you think he "stimulated" the economy. lol I just imagine being as ignorant as you, just comical to me.
                                                          Don't want to hear your cubicle, union, state worker shit who's exempt from the real world economy/ life.
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                                                          • rkelly110
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                                                            • 10-05-09
                                                            • 39691

                                                            #1114
                                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                                            yeah stop blaming the party that thrives off the lower class of society under the guise of helping them. Yeah!!
                                                            You're still wet behind the ears, but back in the day, the Repubs have helped the lower class more than the Dems
                                                            with a lot of what is still going on today.
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                                                            • brooks85
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                                                              • 01-05-09
                                                              • 44709

                                                              #1115
                                                              ^ no, they didn't and you can't prove it with any facts or logic because that is who you are; ignorant.



                                                              Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                              Don't want to hear your cubicle, union, state worker shit who's exempt from the real world economy/ life.
                                                              I have no doubt you don't want to hear from me. An admitted sheepish-mind that works with "my truths" and complete lies likes yours always shuts out what they don't want to hear and make up in their head what they want the argument to be. I've known this which is why I just like messing with ya.
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                                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                                • 01-17-09
                                                                • 102357

                                                                #1116
                                                                Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                What you fail to comprehend Dwight, the Repubs signed off on the stimulus. After realizing it did good for the country, they were against it. Oh no! Can't give him a legacy!!!!

                                                                Yes, the govt always wastes our money and it's disgusting.

                                                                You've heard me before say this. When your employer gives you your paycheck, he can't tell you how to spend it.
                                                                Trouble is, the Repubs think that it's THEIR money.

                                                                Stop blaming Obama and the Dems for everything, open your eyes and look in the mirror.
                                                                I do realize the republicans signed off on it. I have been telling you there isn't a difference between the two parties. They serve most of the same donors.

                                                                It was a waste of money. It did nothing but incur more debt. Where are the new infrastructure completed projects? The shovel ready job? Obama even laughed at how you believe this shit.

                                                                Last edited by DwightShrute; 01-21-16, 01:04 PM.
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                                                                • darrell74
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                                                                  • 04-16-07
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                                                                  #1117
                                                                  Originally posted by khicks26

                                                                  I like this video

                                                                  These guys explain, pretty much, why his guy won't really move.
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                                                                  • guitarjosh
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                                                                    • 12-25-07
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                                                                    #1118
                                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                    Yet, it's a proven fact cutting taxes increases debt.

                                                                    How low can the Repubs go in cutting taxes for the rich and job creators to spur economic/ infrastructure growth?
                                                                    It worked ONE time under Reagan. Even then he ran up the debt/ deficit.

                                                                    I'm telling you right now. If we get a Repub Pres and still have a Repub controlled congress, we are fukked.

                                                                    It's a proven fact Repubs run up the debt. It's a proven fact they hate entitlements. It's a proven fact they will
                                                                    put us in a war of some type causing recessions. You WILL fear for your job, guaranteed.

                                                                    They always fuk with entitlements. Medicare/ aide and SS. Bush with his voucher bullshit. Christie is talking
                                                                    working until you're 70. They snuck in an extra year on me when I wasn't looking, motherfukkers.

                                                                    You guys go right ahead and vote for everything you are against. Unless you are rich, you are fukked.
                                                                    It worked under Harding, Truman, JFK/LBJ, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, W.

                                                                    Recessions aren't caused by war. The debt went up so much under Reagan because of the record high interest rates.
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                                                                    • KingJD31
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                                                                      • 11-04-11
                                                                      • 8167

                                                                      #1119
                                                                      Well entitlements is killing this country so yeah something has to be done or it can't survive
                                                                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                      Yet, it's a proven fact cutting taxes increases debt.

                                                                      How low can the Repubs go in cutting taxes for the rich and job creators to spur economic/ infrastructure growth?
                                                                      It worked ONE time under Reagan. Even then he ran up the debt/ deficit.

                                                                      I'm telling you right now. If we get a Repub Pres and still have a Repub controlled congress, we are fukked.

                                                                      It's a proven fact Repubs run up the debt. It's a proven fact they hate entitlements. It's a proven fact they will
                                                                      put us in a war of some type causing recessions. You WILL fear for your job, guaranteed.

                                                                      They always fuk with entitlements. Medicare/ aide and SS. Bush with his voucher bullshit. Christie is talking
                                                                      working until you're 70. They snuck in an extra year on me when I wasn't looking, motherfukkers.

                                                                      You guys go right ahead and vote for everything you are against. Unless you are rich, you are fukked.
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                                                                      • brooks85
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                                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                                        • 44709

                                                                        #1120
                                                                        just stating what we know to be fact; rkelly doesn't pay attention to numbers or their accuracy.

                                                                        And when he actually succeeds in posting something with factual numbers, posting a picture of the bull run stocks went on since 2011, he doesn't understand what he is seeing. Example- he will say something like(he has said this many times);

                                                                        "look at the economy since obama has been in office."

                                                                        Three things in that sentence prove how ignorant he is.

                                                                        1. The economy and the stock market are two different things.
                                                                        2. Obama had nothing to do with it
                                                                        3. People actually knowledgeable on the subject know Obama has damaged this economy severely.
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