If Memphis is a #1 seed they will make great fade material!!!!

dwaechte · 03-15-09, 03:20 PM

I'm not understanding, your position is unclear. Is Memphis underrated?

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:23 PM

I agree with Z, of course they'll cover the first round game though. It'll be just like conference play

LT Profits · 03-15-09, 03:30 PM

I disagree totally, Memphis has the best defense in the country and they are a legitimate threat to win it all. That said, I hope they get a 2 seed, although I think they already locked up a #1.

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:37 PM

Memphis is overrated out of its ass. They were 2-2 against middle of the pack Big East teams and beat shitty Gonzaga and Tennessee teams. They're defense is far from the best in the country (Louisville) and they have nobody to take the big shot. NEWSFLASH: Tyreke Evans isn't that great of a college ball player. Taggart is nowhere near Dorsey and CDR isn't walking through that door.

ryanXL977 · 03-15-09, 03:37 PM

did people say this last yr too?

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

I disagree totally, Memphis has the best defense in the country and they are a legitimate threat to win it all. That said, I hope they get a 2 seed, although I think they already locked up a #1.

No way LT!

If Memphis was in the ACC or the Big East they would be in the middle of the pack!

onthewhat · 03-15-09, 03:38 PM

No

Memphis will make a run to regional final at least

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

did people say this last yr too?

Not true from my view

last year I had them winning it all

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:39 PM

Memphis would'nt have won the SEC this year

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

did people say this last yr too?

alright compare this team to last years

Tyreke Evans is NOWHERE near the PG that Rose was. They have nobody even close to being as good as CDR. Taggart isn't as good as Dorsey was

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:40 PM

And I'm hoping they be a #1 seed so they can beat the 16 and then we see a upset in the 2nd round or 3rd

ryanXL977 · 03-15-09, 03:40 PM

SEC sucks

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

SEC sucks

Exactly!

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:42 PM

LSU would beat Memphis

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:43 PM

Memphis could have won the SEC this year IMO, they wouldnt have came close to winning the Big East or ACC though. They might have won the Big 10 but I doubt it

ryanXL977 · 03-15-09, 03:43 PM

tpowell
i aint watched memphis plays since last yr
i have no clue
im sold on ul right now. they are better than anyone in the country
still not sure how they beat a team like unc who can score though.......

Mac4Lyfe · 03-15-09, 03:43 PM

Memphis is highly overrated. Until they get out of that chit conference they can't be taken seriously. Last year they were legit (next year they will be stacked and very legit). This year they are not and will exit the tourney early.

Big time fade material, maybe even the 1st game as that line will be large.

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Memphis could have won the SEC this year IMO, they wouldnt have came close to winning the Big East or ACC though. They might have won the Big 10 but I doubt it

I really dont think they would win the SEC! Yes the SEC is down but they have teams that can beat anybody any given night! The only down part about the SEC is they dont have no dominant team in the conference!

But they can upset anybody!!

I really think a SEC team will shock everyone in the field of 64!

It could be Mississippi state, LSU , South Carolina, or Tennessee!

LT Profits · 03-15-09, 03:47 PM

i actually think Memphis is UNDERrated for the simple fact that everyone is saying they are overrated, and the oddsmakers will factor that into the lines. I think this will give them great value at reduced lines.

All of their losses came in ther first nine games, and they have gotten progrssively better as the year has gone on. And there is nothing wrong with an 18-point ROAD win at Gonzaga, as the Zags are far from "garbage". In fact, Gonzaga is ranked #5 in the Pomeroy Rankings, making them another nice darkhorse. Memphis is #1 on Pomeroy by the way.

I agree that Tigers are not as good as last year, there is no disputing that. But that does not mean they are not good enough to win this year, which I think they are.

Mac4Lyfe · 03-15-09, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

tpowell
i aint watched memphis plays since last yr
i have no clue
im sold on ul right now. they are better than anyone in the country
still not sure how they beat a team like unc who can score though.......

Ryan, either you or I will eat crow on the SEC talk. I'm sure it's going to be you. 3 teams are going to get in and all 3 are going to make the sweet 16. At least one will make the elite eight and don't be surprised if one makes the final four. Watch...

I like Nova out of the BE. I like UL as well because they pressure you constantly and will give teams fits with their depth. I'm not buying Uconn or Pitt, I think they both will get shocked early as they will have problems scoring.

ACC is the conference to beat. UNC, Duke, FSU and Maryland all have good shots at getting in the final four. For Duke it will depend on who they face. If they get a physical team they may be out early but this may be their best tourney in a while.

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:48 PM

LT that win was'nt at Gonzaga that was neutral court game

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

tpowell
i aint watched memphis plays since last yr
i have no clue
im sold on ul right now. they are better than anyone in the country
still not sure how they beat a team like unc who can score though.......

Ryan, if UL played UNC it would be a game of runs. If somebody goes cold too long, they'll be out of the game quick. Louisville isn't a great offensive team but they can score in bunches. I also think that UL won't press that much because of how well Lawson can handle it. The 2-3 matchup zone we play is very active and a great defense. It would be a great game, but somebody may win by 7 or 8 points because of how quick both teams can score. Louisville always seems to do JUST ENOUGH to win and I think they'll be one of the best in the tourny.

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

i actually think Memphis is UNDERrated for the simple fact that everyone is saying they are overrated, and the oddsmakers will factor that into the lines. I think this will give them great value at reduced lines.

All of their losses came in ther first nine games, and they have gotten progrssively better as the year has gone on. And there is nothing wrong with an 18-point ROAD win at Gonzaga, as the Zags are far from "garbage". In fact, Gonzaga is ranked #5 in the Pomeroy Rankings, making them another nice darkhorse. Memphis is #1 on Pomeroy by the way.

I agree that Tigers are not as good as last year, there is no disputing that. But that does not mean they are not good enough to win this year, which I think they are.

Both UL and Memphis struggled in OOC play, but ONLY Louisville played a challenging conference schedule. Gonzaga doesn't have the toughness to get to a Final 4 IMO. When Memphis beat Gonzaga, Gonzaga was playing like garbage. They lost a few games around that time IIRC

LT Profits · 03-15-09, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

LT that win was'nt at Gonzaga that was neutral court game

No it was at Gonzaga. Note the Location:

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onthewhat · 03-15-09, 03:54 PM

Agree with LT here

Lines are going to be off in the Big Easts favor and Memphis and Gonzaga will be undervalued

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:55 PM

I still dont count that at Gonzaga

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:56 PM

no way Gonzaga and Memphis will be undervalued. Gonzaga always finds a way to **** things up and Memphis is a fraud that is getting by on having a deep run LAST YEAR

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:56 PM

Bottom line Memphis is trash and me and TPowell will prove this to you guys!

They will not make it no further than the sweet 16!

TPowell · 03-15-09, 03:57 PM

Z, I wouldnt go that far. With a good draw, they may be able to get to an Elite 8 but I really doubt it. A bad draw and they might not get to the Sweet 16

ryanXL977 · 03-15-09, 03:58 PM

i know the big east and acc are the best
pitt will go out early like they always do, for sure. i still think uconn could make a run, pitt i dont think so

SEC is not gonna get 3 elite eight teams. in fact, i dont think theyll even have 3 sweet 16
i guess i will see the brackets in a few hours and decide

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:58 PM

I will be able to let you guys know who will knock them out the tournament after the selection show!

ZBOIZ · 03-15-09, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

i know the big east and acc are the best
pitt will go out early like they always do, for sure. i still think uconn could make a run, pitt i dont think so

SEC is not gonna get 3 elite eight teams. in fact, i dont think theyll even have 3 sweet 16
i guess i will see the brackets in a few hours and decide

LSU and Tennessee could get to the sweet 16

LT Profits · 03-15-09, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by ZBOIZ

I still dont count that at Gonzaga

What do you mean? It was their home gym.

dwaechte · 03-15-09, 03:59 PM

No further than Sweet 16? I'll take that bet.