Suns +170 tonight

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 11:32 AM

square play

pat venditto · 03-12-09, 12:30 PM

Mathematically it's correct.

Matchup wise I think suns match up well besides lebron being on the court. I think this game will come down to him making plays because I feel everyone else will struggle on the cavs. If cavs were at home of course I would not play the suns at only +170, but since the suns are home I see this as a good price. If lebron doesn't play spectacular I see suns squeezing out this victory.

Suns win this game about 40% of the time making +170 on the suns side profitable long term.

Risking 4.7 units.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 12:52 PM

when was the last time the suns beat a good team? lakers 2 weeks ago? suns arent very good.

pat venditto · 03-12-09, 12:53 PM

Matters not.

pat venditto · 03-12-09, 12:54 PM

Keep taking the lakers on the road when they are 3 point dogs and see how burried you are after a year.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 12:55 PM

im not saying its an aweful play, but the line is spot on

lakers are a much better play

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by pat venditto

Keep taking the lakers on the road when they are 3 point dogs and see how burried you are after a year.

lets see
got lakers+250 at celts
got lakers+155 at rockets
got lakers +140 at cavs
i cant think of a time when the lakers have been a dog on lost
i welcome anyone to chime in here who thinks you know nba betting better than i do

jjgold · 03-12-09, 12:56 PM

Patty might be right with Suns, I ain't taking cleve

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 12:59 PM

whats the suns record without stoudamire
this is an average team, at best, without amare

you guys need to watch more nba and stop thinking the suns are good bc they used to be good

this aint 2007

pat venditto · 03-12-09, 01:03 PM

If anything this year the suns play better without amare. Guy doesn't seem to gel well with everyone else.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 01:05 PM

no, they arent better without amare
go look at their record. its very simple to research it
they are not better without amare
they just got beat at home by dallas, after an 0-4 road trip, and now they are going to beat a top 3 nba team? based upon what? i understand home dogs, but not against 22-12 road teams, its just not a wise bet. the suns are not in the playoffs, they are done, nothing to play for, they dont play defense and they will probably allow another 110+ tonite
take the over
suns lose

pat venditto · 03-12-09, 01:06 PM

Not about being good this isn't a -110 situation you're getting +170. If you think the suns will win this game more than 37% it's correct to bet it.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 01:08 PM

yes i understand that. i thikn the suns win this game about 25% of the time with their current players. with amare, id be all over it. i understand what youre doing here, i would recommend other spot plays like the lakers who win 80% on the road, rather than suns, who are like 5 games below 500 without amare

pat venditto · 03-12-09, 01:09 PM

Well if you think suns only win 25% of the time you should be all over the cavs moneyline.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 01:11 PM

and i will do the cavs ml.
i think the lakers win about 50% of games at sa
and its +150 and i love it
its a much much smarter play bc lakers dont care where they play
suns are a garbage team

sallysnax8 · 03-12-09, 01:20 PM

i'm with you on the suns today shitbrick.....sun's and lakers lets go....ml

bookie · 03-12-09, 01:36 PM

I agree with Pat this is a value play. The Cavs can be run on. You wouldn't think that Ben Wallace was a great transition defender but his board work helped slow down opponents who run, and they've been noticeably weaker at playing their pace with him gone.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 01:38 PM

i ****ing hate the cavs
i have no idea how they win
but suns are horrid without amare, they play no d anywhere on the court. so all they can hope to do is outscore a better team who plays d. i dont like it. gl to all

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 01:39 PM

I'm not sure there is true value on any side tonight...

both should be fun games to watch though

csimmalavong · 03-12-09, 03:35 PM

pretty much a must win for the suns, they got the talent to do it.

barnes on lebron is shaky though, put in dudley !

SportsTerminator · 03-12-09, 04:24 PM

The suns have no bench. Only their starting lineup can put up some points. Unless Shaq has like a 50 point game I don't see them winning.

raydog · 03-12-09, 04:42 PM

clev better on the road than suns are at home. clev one of the best ATS in the league where as the suns suck ass ATS. doesnt take a genius to realize that by the #s, the suns ml is the absolute worst play here. gl patty, you may get lucky tonight but this is a horrible play and another reason why you lose all the time.

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by csimmalavong

pretty much a must win for the suns, they got the talent to do it.

barnes on lebron is shaky though, put in dudley !

excuse me?

dudley

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 04:44 PM

the suns have been in must win games for months
so have the grizzlies
it doesnt matter if its must win or not, if youre a bad team then why bet it

Iwinyourmoney · 03-12-09, 04:49 PM

Getem patty!

SportsLockPicks · 03-12-09, 08:50 PM

best play is Suns total points OVER 107...then the cavs can beat them 135-117 and we still win

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 08:52 PM

i could see a 150 pt game
cavs aint gonna lose to the suns., nobody loses to the suns

gl to all
cavs
over

SportsLockPicks · 03-12-09, 08:52 PM

betting on the suns is like betting on the warriors...a 20 point lead is like a 5 point lead...but when they are down 20 they can't get stops...2nd worst, if not the worst team to take ats right now in the league...but damn do they score a lot of points...especially at home against a wallaceless cavs squad on a west coast bender

Vince Carter · 03-12-09, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by pat venditto

Mathematically it's correct.

Matchup wise I think suns match up well besides lebron being on the court. I think this game will come down to him making plays because I feel everyone else will struggle on the cavs. If cavs were at home of course I would not play the suns at only +170, but since the suns are home I see this as a good price. If lebron doesn't play spectacular I see suns squeezing out this victory.

Suns win this game about 40% of the time making +170 on the suns side profitable long term.

Risking 4.7 units.

what is that? $4.7?

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 09:10 PM

the suns are garbage people
gar
bage

frostno98 · 03-12-09, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

lets see
got lakers+250 at celts
got lakers+155 at rockets
got lakers +140 at cavs
i cant think of a time when the lakers have been a dog on lost
i welcome anyone to chime in here who thinks you know nba betting better than i do

T Sporano

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

T Sporano

who do you think i bet those games with frostno? ask tsop who he took today. ask him who took spurs vs celts, lakers vs celts. and yes, gulp, cavs vs celts

if youd stop being a homer and listen to me about the nuggs, i could make you a grip of cash

ClockCleaner · 03-12-09, 09:18 PM

The Cavs just got embarrassed at the Clippers. No way they lose 2 in a row against bad teams.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 09:19 PM

they beat the clippers