What did We learn in NCAA today boys?

[Chi_archie]

Perception says you can't have 3 #1s from 1 conf. Reality is right now Pitt, Uconn, Louis probably should be #1 with NC. Memphis only contender to knock out Louis?

Memphis 1-2 top 25 4-3 top 50! Pitt 4-2, UConn 8-2, Louis. 5-1 top 25 no doubt better at top 50! UAB, TELP, Hous., Tulsa, 0-11 top 25 and 6-19 top 50! Early losts by Memphis to Cuse, Xavier, Georgeown, Beat say Gonz. and Tenn. If numbers don't count then somebody tell the selection committee that!

Great Def. might take Tigers far in tourney but don't think so? No way Memhis is top 3 in BEast! Remember the BEast is a pounding night after night (except Depaul)

Pitts, Uconn, for sure #1s, Louis. wins BEast tourney how do you leave them out? Looks like Louis.'s outside shooting is coming around! We shouldn't get caught up with the national media bowing to Memphis.

IMO Okla., Duke and MICHSTATE ( sorry)have shots at #1 depending on tourney.

MrMonkey

good analysis, my girlfriend who was listening to the game and watching while she worked out at the gym ( I listen to music rather then idiot talking heads while I watch games usually) told me this morning they were debating where Memphis would finish in the big east.

the consensus she said seemed to be about fifth?? anywhere else hear this? I think it is tough to make a case for memphis when you look at the numbers that selection committee does.

are there gonna be 3 #1's from the B.E? prob not. but there is an a small chance.

who are the 4 # 2 seeds.. assuming Unc, pitt, uconn, and memphis got the number 1's??

[t-bone]

Anytime you see Indiana in a line.......scroll over to the "UNDER" and click it with confidence!

[Chi_archie]

1. Approx 20 teams can win ncaa tourney
2. parity is running rampant
3. Impossible to predict point spread winners

I've been trying to tell Ryan, Unde, and the other ACC/UNC lovers for quite some time in the "over-rated" discussions.

it all comes down to who is hot come march 19th on..

Remember both years that Florida won the entire the dance, they lost a few games down the stretch and everyone counted them out.

somtimes I think it can be a good thing to get a loss or two out of your system before the conference tourney. It keeps your team from getting too cocky, re-focuses them, shows the coaches what areas they need to work on ect... good teaching lessons. Bob Knight talks about this often

[ryanXL977]

im not an acc.unc lover
im in pac10 country. i will cheer for washington to win it all, though im thinking they might not

unc is as good as any team in the country. i dont overrate them, maybe some espn guy does but these are the same guys who pick yanks and cubs every yr

there is no place for worse analysis than espn

they are awful

[MrMonkey]

IYHO Ryan who wins Memp./Louis. matchup In tourney if... Louis 2-3-4 fav.? That would tell us something unless I'm wrong? Keep up the good work!

MrMonkey

[ryanXL977]

i would guess ul is -2 or 3, yep. if there is on worse ft% team that memphis, its ul.

[LT Profits]

I think UConn is the best team in the country and my pick to win it all. When they lost at home to Pitt, it was their first game without Dyson and it showed. Huskies have bounced back just fine since then, and they will get their revenge AT Pitt this weekend.

[TPowell]

i would guess ul is -2 or 3, yep. if there is on worse ft% team that memphis, its ul.

statistically speaking Louisville is a TERRIBLE free throw shooting team, but they've came through at the line this year quite a bit when the game was on the line.

[Slate]

Big Ten teams can't score. Watched the Wisconsin/Minnesota game and no one could hit a shot in the 1st half. Gophers were up 23-16 at the half. Big Ten has some of the ugliest games to watch this year. Should be a fun game Illinois at Penn St tonight. Last game at Illinois, Penn St won a barn burner 38-33!

[element1286]

It seems to me that Uconn, Pitt, and UNC are locks to be numbers 1's, and I believe they are a step above.

Then there is a second group with Louisville, Oklahoma, and Memphis that are great teams but not at the level of Pitt, Uconn, or UNC. And after that the rest.

[element1286]

I think UConn is the best team in the country and my pick to win it all. When they lost at home to Pitt, it was their first game without Dyson and it showed. Huskies have bounced back just fine since then, and they will get their revenge AT Pitt this weekend.

I don't disagree with you LT, but I thought they were a little thin offensively before he got hurt, and I think they are really thin now.

[Louisvillekid1]

This thread makes me sick! Wow alot of these posts just prove why so much of you lose in NCAA. Im not bashing here, but this is ridic.

WHAT HAS MEMPHIS DONE TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED A NUMBER 1 SEED! They played one good game all year @ Gonzaga. . .

If Louisville wins @ West V and makes it to the BE Finals, they def deserve number 1 seed.

LT, what are you smoking talking about Louisville hasn't played as good lately? They have lost 2 games in '09! Every week they beat a ranked team. .

wow, I could type so much more but Im done.

If Memphis gets a number one of over Louisville, PLEASE GOD LET LOUISVILLE BE THE 2 SEED IN THAT BRACKET!

Oh, wait. . . It won't matter because they won't even make it to the elite 8 to play us. . .

wow just wow. . .

[Louisvillekid1]

Memphis is squeaking by UAB and Houston. . .

[Chi_archie]

Memphis does not look that good at all this year..... and its true they and the rest of their conference have done HORRIBLY vs decent competition.

Memphis might be the 6th or 7th best team in the Big East if they played there...

[ryanXL977]

you guys should get off the big east nuts
one team in the big east ever does anything come tourney time, uconn

thats it
the big east is no better than pac10 come tourney time

post about BE when pitt gets past sweet 16!!!

pow!

[Chi_archie]

i'm posting about 2009... that's all

[ryanXL977]

why does nobody mention kansas? missouri? oklahoma and texas?

[Chi_archie]

we did mention them in the beginning of the thread.....

I like missouri and oklahoma, think they can make a lot of noise this year...but I think the big 12 is down a bit this year.

[Chi_archie]

rankings should be interesting come monday

[tacomax]

Archie, your girl needs to meet me. Please arrange. Thanks.

[LT Profits]

Updating the thread title to "Saturday", Pitt may now be my choice to win it all, but will finalize when brackets are announced.

[Chi_archie]

are you waivering at all on your no way in hell that the big east gets 3 # 1 seeds LT?

[LT Profits]

Big 12 not mentioned because besides Oklahoma, none of the others have proven themselves on the road, and Sooners are not plaing as well lately either.

As for Louisville, maybe I wasn't clear. Yes they have continued to win, but I was referring to the WAY they have been playing. I thought they were the most underrated team in the nation and playing like the best team in the country before the Connecticut game, but they have been winning uglier since then and have looked offensively challenged at times vs. the weaker teams in the Big East.

[LT Profits]

are you waivering at all on your no way in hell that the big east gets 3 # 1 seeds LT?

No and why should I? Seems pretty clear cut right now: Pitt, UConn, UNC and Memphis. Only one that may drop out is Memphis, but they will win out. Not saying they deserve it, but they will get #1 seed by winning out.

[Chi_archie]

the question isn't if you think they are playing well or how pretty their wins are.... but do you think they have a shot at a # 1 seed.....

it doesn' matter that much I think if memphis gets the number 1 seed, even though they would only be a 5th or 6th team in the big east or ACC... as the number 2 seed gets almost as easy a road as the 1

[Chi_archie]

if louisville plays uconn in the BE championship game..... I think it is possible that louisville jumps over memphis.... memphis's body of work is not the same as it was last year

[LT Profits]

I am assuming UNC will beat Duke today, so when the polls come out tomorrrow, it will be:

1 - UNC
2 - Pitt
3 - UConn
4 - Memphis

A lot has to happen for those teams not to be the four #1 seeds, and the top two are a given even if they lose the first game of their respective tournaments.

[LT Profits]

And isn't Louisville ranked like eighth right now? As wrong as it is, even Oklahoma will get looked at as a one before Louisville.

[LT Profits]

OK I stand corrected, I just checked and Louisville is ranked sixth. But they'd still need Oklahoma to lose to merit consideration and to answer your other question, if Memphis wins out (which they most likely will) they will NOT get jumped no matter what Louisville does. Remember that Memphis is ranked number one in the Pomeroy Ratings.

[Chi_archie]

you think oklahoma will be ranked ahead of louisville come monday LT????????

c'mon pal go get some coffee

[Chi_archie]

OK I stand corrected, I just checked and Louisville is ranked sixth. But they'd still need Oklahoma to lose to merit consideration and to answer your other question, if Memphis wins out (which they most likely will) they will NOT get jumped no matter what Louisville does. Remember that Memphis is ranked number one in the Pomeroy Ratings.

Oklahoma already lost LT..... remember we just played a week


tourney selection committee does not care about ken pomeroy

[LT Profits]

Did Oklahoma lose this past week?

[LT Profits]

OK Sorry, forgot about Missouri game.

[Chi_archie]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=290630142

and by the way, I don't think you can automatically assume that seedings for the tourney are determined by some arbitrary coaches poll or any other "ranking" system.....

[Chi_archie]

OK Sorry, forgot about Missouri game.

LT, seriously go get some coffee, or go get on the treadmill... this spring forward time change is hitting you hard this morning.... no shame in hitting the snooze alarm once in awhile.....


I'm easy like sunday morning