NHL trade deadline this Wednesday

[PuckOff]

The next 3 days will be exciting. Who will be on the move and to where? Canadian guys......post your inside info here. Our American friends are free to post as well of course, but I don't think they will be as connected to "insiders" like us Canadians are.

I say the Leafs will get rid of at least 3 players. Moore, Antropov Kaberle, Mayers could find new homes. Same with Ponikarovsky and Stajan.

Montreal - I hear they may Komisarek as he is UFA this summer and will not resign. He could be on the move.

Ottawa - Chris Neil and GM Murray are $1 million apart on negotiations. HE could be on his way out for sure if he doesn't come back to earth.

[Slim]

[VegasDave]

I'm really hoping that the Kings find a way to sign Frolov long term instead of trading him here; he's a great asset to the team and while I'm sure we'd get a good return for him, I'd like to see him in a Kings jersey for years to come.

[AMBlai01]

Everyone is expendable in hockey, it wouldn't surprise me if anyone is traded. Some of these teams make some curious moves around the trade deadline...

[PuckOff]

Not sure why they would trade Frolov. What's the deal on him Dave? They'd be dumb to trade away their young assets. It's not like they will make the playoffs and even if they do they won't go deep.

[PuckOff]

Everyone is expendable in hockey, it wouldn't surprise me if anyone is traded. Some of these teams make some curious moves around the trade deadline...

It's a good time to dump salary really It's going to be interesting. BTW nice vid the other night.

Bud Light???

[VegasDave]

Everyone is expendable in hockey, it wouldn't surprise me if anyone is traded. Some of these teams make some curious moves around the trade deadline...

Unlike in the NBA, with a deep 7 round draft and an extensive minor league system (as well as Canadian and European leagues), the rental player is so much more prominent. No GM wants to look like a fool for letting their top FA walk for nothing (unless they are making a run for the cup)... so pretty much any player with one or no years left on their contract are very susceptible to being traded for picks and prospects; especially if the team's GM doesn't think they'll be able to re-sign them.

Makes for a very exciting trade deadline; like you said, nothing will surprise me.

[VegasDave]

Not sure why they would trade Frolov. What's the deal on him Dave? They'd be dumb to trade away their young assets. It's not like they will make the playoffs and even if they do they won't go deep.

Well speculation is his trade value is at its best right here, since a team would get him for this year and next year at a cap hit of only 4 million... an excellent deal for a player of his calibur.

One popular rumor involves Frolov going to the Penguins for Jordan Staal.

With so many young franchise-type players (Kopitar, O'Sullivan, Doughty, Johnson), Lombardi doesn't want to spend too much on one and lose another.

But more importantly, there is no guarantee Frolov wants to resign in LA. For his entire career he has been on a losing team, and he could excel somewhere else. If he doesn't have his heart set on returning, Lombardi has to trade him while he still can.

This is why I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he doesn't get traded and he gets re-up'd. He is an excellent two-way forward and he brings the team a lot more than just what he does on the stat sheet (which is impressive in its own right)

[AMBlai01]

It's a good time to dump salary really It's going to be interesting. BTW nice vid the other night.

Bud Light???

Thanks for the compliments on the vid. As far as the beer is concerned...I generall drink Miller Lite and for good reason. I drink a lot of them and I want to be functional at 2am and not on the ground and also I don't want to weight 500lbs.

[PuckOff]

Thanks for the compliments on the vid. As far as the beer is concerned...I generall drink Miller Lite and for good reason. I drink a lot of them and I want to be functional at 2am and not on the ground and also I don't want to weight 500lbs.

But don't American brewed light beer taste like water? You need to get yourself some Canadian brewed light beer. Coors Light is brewed in NB, Canada (for Maritime distribution) and it actually doesn't take like water.

[element1286]

Well speculation is his trade value is at its best right here, since a team would get him for this year and next year at a cap hit of only 4 million... an excellent deal for a player of his calibur.

One popular rumor involves Frolov going to the Penguins for Jordan Staal.

With so many young franchise-type players (Kopitar, O'Sullivan, Doughty, Johnson), Lombardi doesn't want to spend too much on one and lose another.

But more importantly, there is no guarantee Frolov wants to resign in LA. For his entire career he has been on a losing team, and he could excel somewhere else. If he doesn't have his heart set on returning, Lombardi has to trade him while he still can.

This is why I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he doesn't get traded and he gets re-up'd. He is an excellent two-way forward and he brings the team a lot more than just what he does on the stat sheet (which is impressive in its own right)

I really hope that one goes through Dave.

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If Jordan Staal is moved it will be to Toronto.

[element1286]

If Jordan Staal is moved it will be to Toronto.

For whom? I don't think they have anyone the Penguins would want.

[AMBlai01]

You really think that Coors Light is better? I couldn't disagree more, I think that Coors tastes more like water than any of them.

I am a pretty big Molson Light fan so maybe I will start drinking that a bit more!

I really don't like Labatt Light because for some reason that beer will give me a headache the next day, even if I only drink like 2....its really strange.

[element1286]

You really think that Coors Light is better? I couldn't disagree more, I think that Coors tastes more like water than any of them.

I am a pretty big Molson Light fan so maybe I will start drinking that a bit more!

I really don't like Labatt Light because for some reason that beer will give me a headache the next day, even if I only drink like 2....its really strange.

Agreed.

[PuckOff]

For whom? I don't think they have anyone the Penguins would want.

Antropov, Moore, Mayers, Stajan. The list goes on.

Kaberle (picture him on the PP with Gonchar.......dangerous)

[PuckOff]

You really think that Coors Light is better? I couldn't disagree more, I think that Coors tastes more like water than any of them.

I am a pretty big Molson Light fan so maybe I will start drinking that a bit more!

I really don't like Labatt Light because for some reason that beer will give me a headache the next day, even if I only drink like 2....its really strange.

Coors Light brewed and bottled in Canada can compete with any Canadian light brewed beer (I.E. Molson, Labbat, Canadian, Keith's etc.)

I'd hate to see you drink 12 Canadian non-light beer. I think you would fall on your ass. lol

[VegasDave]

I really hope that one goes through Dave.

Well, that is the point; I want to see Frolov with the Kings long term, but if he isn't going to re-sign and is just going to walk, I'd much rather have the 1-2 punch of Kopitar and Staal up the middle for the Kings for the next 3+ years.

The original trade rumors actually involved the Kings getting Whitney and Staal... but now that Whitney was sent to the Ducks, I'm not sure how that effects these rumors... or if they ever had any legs to begin with.

[AMBlai01]

I think the upside on Staal is still too much to move him. He is still so young and developing and has so much potential.

Everything I am hearing out of Pittsburgh is that they are probably done making any moves and they are happy with the way the team has looked since they got Gonchar back and made the coaching move. The team really looks energized.

[AMBlai01]

Coors Light brewed and bottled in Canada can compete with any Canadian light brewed beer (I.E. Molson, Labbat, Canadian, Keith's etc.)

I'd hate to see you drink 12 Canadian non-light beer. I think you would fall on your ass. lol

You severely underestimate my drinking ability....I don't exclusively drink light beer and I don't exclusively drink beer......

[element1286]

Antropov, Moore, Mayers, Stajan. The list goes on.

Kaberle (picture him on the PP with Gonchar.......dangerous)

Antropov and Moore are UFA's, I don't think there is any chance Staal gets traded for any one like that. Mayers is a fourth liner. Stajan is alright, but J Staal is better and younger.

The Pens just traded Whitney, who is a similar player to Kaberle and younger, that doesn't make any sense to me.

If it is Nik Hagman+ for Jordan Staal, maybe, but other than that no thanks.

[PuckOff]

Like Ambi said Staal does have a lot of potential. He is doign duty on the 3rd line when he should be a 1st or 2nd liner.

[VegasDave]

I think the upside on Staal is still too much to move him. He is still so young and developing and has so much potential.

Everything I am hearing out of Pittsburgh is that they are probably done making any moves and they are happy with the way the team has looked since they got Gonchar back and made the coaching move. The team really looks energized.

But considering he is buried behind the big two, bringing in an excellent winger to throw on a line with Malkin certainly wouldn't hurt.

It would be one of those good-for-both-teams kind of trades. Even if Staal meets his potential, the Pens getting a point per game player (WITHOUT the creativity of a Malkin/Crosby mind you) who is also defensively responsible makes it hard for them to outright lose the trade.

[element1286]

Well, that is the point; I want to see Frolov with the Kings long term, but if he isn't going to re-sign and is just going to walk, I'd much rather have the 1-2 punch of Kopitar and Staal up the middle for the Kings for the next 3+ years.

The original trade rumors actually involved the Kings getting Whitney and Staal... but now that Whitney was sent to the Ducks, I'm not sure how that effects these rumors... or if they ever had any legs to begin with.

I never heard Whitney and Staal, that would have to be some kind of return.

[element1286]

I think the upside on Staal is still too much to move him. He is still so young and developing and has so much potential.

Everything I am hearing out of Pittsburgh is that they are probably done making any moves and they are happy with the way the team has looked since they got Gonchar back and made the coaching move. The team really looks energized.

I think they are done for this season as well, but I think Staal is on another team by the beginning of next year. The Pens need on wing is too great, and in the offseason more teams would be involved, and there is more time to make the deal.

But I could see the Pens making a play for a defensive defensemen.

[element1286]

Is the Bill Guerin deal officially dead now?

[PuckOff]

Antropov and Moore are UFA's, I don't think there is any chance Staal gets traded for any one like that. Mayers is a fourth liner. Stajan is alright, but J Staal is better and younger.

The Pens just traded Whitney, who is a similar player to Kaberle and younger, that doesn't make any sense to me.

If it is Nik Hagman+ for Jordan Staal, maybe, but other than that no thanks.

The Pens need a legit 4th liner who can crash and bang. Mayers fits the bill. Stajan and Antropov would be nice additions, but throwing Kaberle into the mix is likely what it will take to get a deal done.

[PuckOff]

But considering he is buried behind the big two, bringing in an excellent winger to throw on a line with Malkin certainly wouldn't hurt.

It would be one of those good-for-both-teams kind of trades. Even if Staal meets his potential, the Pens getting a point per game player (WITHOUT the creativity of a Malkin/Crosby mind you) who is also defensively responsible makes it hard for them to outright lose the trade.

Antropov has the size and strength that the Pens need. He would be an awesome fit for Crosby/Malkin. Makes no diff if he is UFA or not. These deals happen all the time.

[PuckOff]

Is the Bill Guerin deal officially dead now?

It's never been reported as to where he is/was headed so it's hard to say.

What's the word on him?

[element1286]

Antropov has the size and strength that the Pens need. He would be an awesome fit for Crosby/Malkin. Makes no diff if he is UFA or not. These deals happen all the time.

It absolutely makes a difference that he is a UFA.

[element1286]

It's never been reported as to where he is/was headed so it's hard to say.

What's the word on him?

It seemed like every contender in the East was rumored at one point. The last two I heard were Montreal and Washington.

[VegasDave]

I never heard Whitney and Staal, that would have to be some kind of return.

Sorry, I misread... was just looking for it and found it.

This is just one that was circulating a lot on the hockey future boards... obviously no confirming that it had any weight whatsoever. Might even have just been an imaginative fan. But rumors are all nonsense anyway...

"L.A. gets: Jordan Staal (PIT), Tyler Kennedy (PIT), Miroslav Satan (PIT), 5th round pick (COL)

Colorado gets: Ryan Whitney (PIT), 3rd round pick (PIT), 4th round pick (LA)

Pittsburgh gets: Wojtek Wolski (COL), Chris Stewart (COL), Alexander Frolov (LA), 2nd round pick (LA)"

[PuckOff]

It does, but it doesn't..........look at all the rental players in past years. Weight, Recchi, (helped bring Carolina the Cup). Tkaczuk, Forsberg etc. The list goes on really. Rental trades happen often at the deadline. Teams will and do mortgage their future for a rental if it means advancing an extra round. It's a tough decision to make, but it's not rare element.

Jay Bouwmeester is a prime rental player.

[PuckOff]

It seemed like every contender in the East was rumored at one point. The last two I heard were Montreal and Washington.

Yeah i heard Washington, but not Montreal. Ollie Jokinen is supposed to be headed to Montreal.

[element1286]

Sorry, I misread... was just looking for it and found it.

This is just one that was circulating a lot on the hockey future boards... obviously no confirming that it had any weight whatsoever. Might even have just been an imaginative fan. But rumors are all nonsense anyway...

"L.A. gets: Jordan Staal (PIT), Tyler Kennedy (PIT), Miroslav Satan (PIT), 5th round pick (COL)

Colorado gets: Ryan Whitney (PIT), 3rd round pick (PIT), 4th round pick (LA)

Pittsburgh gets: Wojtek Wolski (COL), Chris Stewart (COL), Alexander Frolov (LA), 2nd round pick (LA)"

That one originated from here.

http://www.letsgopens.com/scripts/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33058&start=0

I didn't think that one had much traction, but it made sense.