Why Don't The Guys Who Claim To Be Pro's On This Site Put Up Or Shut Up

[raydog]

Who gives a fuk what my screen name is here? Not that I care who takes me seriously, but if I stay here long enough, I suspect I will get taken fairly seriously from the ones who get it.

ahaha, whatever kiddo. you must be above 50% for the week and feeling like king of the world. hey, keep up the winners, but if you are gonna be a fukking prima donna when you win a few games, you gotta be able to take the abuse when you cant win a game with a crystal ball.

[mmike032]

I think it has more to do with who bets the line than how much.
or am I way off base here

[curious]

I think it has more to do with who bets the line than how much.
or am I way off base here

I don't believe any of this.

[donjuan]

I don't believe any of this.

Wow. You are actually delusional.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I think it has more to do with who bets the line than how much.
or am I way off base here

Sometimes. That can be true for offshore, especially on overnights. Not really in Vegas.

[InTheHole]

That's what the sheets are for

[smoke a bowl]

ahaha, whatever kiddo. you must be above 50% for the week and feeling like king of the world. hey, keep up the winners, but if you are gonna be a fukking prima donna when you win a few games, you gotta be able to take the abuse when you cant win a game with a crystal ball.

Who said anything about posting or winning any games? Is that the way to get noticed around here? Pick a couple winners and the circle jerk starts? Curious said he picked 70% winners over some time and anybody that gets it knows that this cat don't know the 1st thing about being a successful gambler long term.

[SportsLockPicks]

guys, i really could care less, i'm just tried to stir up a good convo, which it did, a thread w/ over 100 posts is a good one in anyones book...but it did shake up a hornets nest in that a lot of people stepped out of the woodwork to give their take...a lot of valid points on both sides...if i had to look like an "idiot" in venditto's book, then i really don't care if it actually gets some gambling talk on this site, which is why its here.

answering the main question after reading this i'll say two things about so called pro's, YES if they don't want to post their plays that is fine and their decision..but those posters who boast about being a pro and take shots at other posters about why they are better, really SHOULD post their plays, otherwise fade into the background

[MonkeyF0cker]

The problem with the majority of posters here is that they lose money and refuse to take any criticism or direction from people in the know. It's your own double-edged sword. And as has been stated repeatedly, it serves no personal interest to post plays if you are a winning capper. None at all. Give me one good reason that any pro should. Just one.

[sickler]

The problem with the majority of posters here is that they lose money and refuse to take any criticism or direction from people in the know. It's your own double-edged sword. And as has been stated repeatedly, it serves no personal interest to post plays if you are a winning capper. None at all. Give me one good reason that any pro should. Just one.

Maybe the people who take offense to the criticism do so because they don't believe it's a genuine concern to help, but rather the helpers are more interested in displaying a condescending attitude.

Just a thought...

[seaborneq]

I wish everyone would stop posting locks. More analysis is helpful, rather than picks.

[curious]

Who said anything about posting or winning any games? Is that the way to get noticed around here? Pick a couple winners and the circle jerk starts? Curious said he picked 70% winners over some time and anybody that gets it knows that this cat don't know the 1st thing about being a successful gambler long term.

Over some time is 2 years. I think I've had more than a couple of winners. Try a couple of thousand.

My picks are posted in public before game time and that record is easily refuted. Feel free to refute it with facts rather than your bullshit.

Who is "anybody that gets it"?

What specifically do I do or not do that shows that I don't know "the 1st thing about being a successful gambler long term"?

[curious]

The problem with the majority of posters here is that they lose money and refuse to take any criticism or direction from people in the know. It's your own double-edged sword. And as has been stated repeatedly, it serves no personal interest to post plays if you are a winning capper. None at all. Give me one good reason that any pro should. Just one.

"people in the know". So, how do I know who these "people in the know" are if they don't post plays so I can see what their record is. What do I do, take their word for it that they are "in the know"?

What does that mean anyway, to be "in the know"?

[MonkeyF0cker]

It's pretty obvious. Check the Think Tank once in a while.

[curious]

It's pretty obvious. Check the Think Tank once in a while.

I already bowed down in public to your genius. What more can I do?

Self flagellation?

[The HG]

I am sorry everyone, I am trying to post as many winners as I can, but on today's card I haven't found anything great yet, I am sorry. But it's not because I am not willing to "put up".

There might be some NBA 2H winners, and if they come up I will post them as soon as I see them. I will look over hockey again, and if I catch any winners there, I will post them. But if I have nothing for today, again, I apologize.

[MonkeyF0cker]

curious,

Do you think I give a fvck what you think of me? I simply corrected your inaccurate post. You don't know nearly as much as you think you do. Get over it, pal.

[Cloak & Dagger]

I already bowed down in public to your genius. What more can I do?

Self flagellation?

he wouldnt eat if it wasent for casino comps...how genius is that?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Yeah. Pretty brutal getting steak and lobster comps here at some of the best restaurants in the world. You got me there, Cloak!

[pavyracer]

If I saved a dime for every time donjuan and durito posted a play here I would have been broke now.

[The HG]

I took the Washington puck line at +185, but I purposely waited until after 7:05 to post it, that is not the kind of play I would want anyone to tail. That is a very upper-level kind of play, not for the faint of heart.

But I am still going to put up, as best as I can, if I find any further winners that are appropriate for this audience.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I gave them a winner last night, HG. Nobody listened though.

[SportsLockPicks]

I seriously doubt that anyone that posts, (or in this case doesn't post) their plays on this site, has the clout to "move lines" across the board in all the books...they just don't...even if they did, there is so much action going down these days that it really wouldn't matter on most plays...so to say that they would be ruining it for themselves is total bs...and i'll say this again because apparently it needs to be reiterated, this thread was for the "pros" who hack on normal posters that don't post their plays to back up what they preach...not for the guys who mind their own biz to begin w/....get it st8 and if you don't get it, reread it.

[footballmoney]

Sharps play 10 $110 bets at different books so the line won't move.

I have been in Vegas for a while and that is not true at all! Player place wagers way higher than that all the time with no line movement. Sport books employ highly sophisticated systems and handicappers before they post lines. Lines adjust sometimes and other times they don't when big bets are placed.

[footballmoney]

I seriously doubt that anyone that posts, (or in this case doesn't post) their plays on this site, has the clout to "move lines" across the board in all the books...they just don't...even if they did, there is so much action going down these days that it really wouldn't matter on most plays...so to say that they would be ruining it for themselves is total bs...and i'll say this again because apparently it needs to be reiterated, this thread was for the "pros" who hack on normal posters that don't post their plays to back up what they preach...not for the guys who mind their own biz to begin w/....get it st8 and if you don't get it, reread it.

Totally agree, if they do think they have clout their dillusional!

[TPowell]

who here doesnt post picks but came to be "sharp"? I honestly can think of like 3 or 4 off the top of my head, I dont think there is too many. I made this arguement a while back and it obviously didnt work. Who cares if you move the line or not? Post your play and be done with it.

[reno cool]

I believe that was just a joke. (pavyracers quote)

[footballmoney]

I believe that was just a joke. (pavyracers quote)

My bad, he seems smarter than that!

[MonkeyF0cker]

I seriously doubt that anyone that posts, (or in this case doesn't post) their plays on this site, has the clout to "move lines" across the board in all the books...they just don't...even if they did, there is so much action going down these days that it really wouldn't matter on most plays...so to say that they would be ruining it for themselves is total bs...and i'll say this again because apparently it needs to be reiterated, this thread was for the "pros" who hack on normal posters that don't post their plays to back up what they preach...not for the guys who mind their own biz to begin w/....get it st8 and if you don't get it, reread it.

You really should re-read the thread again. It doesn't take much "clout" in Vegas to move lines. Like I said, in NCAAB a $3300 side or an $1100 total will move the lines 1/2 a point and a full point respectively, almost without exception.

[footballmoney]

You really should re-read the thread again. It doesn't take much "clout" in Vegas to move lines. Like I said, in NCAAB a $3300 side or an $1100 total will move the lines 1/2 a point and a full point respectively, almost without exception.

Maybe in the offshore world but definately not in Las Vegas. Maybe I'll test it out tommorrow, if any books would let me deposit more than three thousand dollars.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Uhh. I'm talking about Vegas. That's where I live. And what on Earth do you mean by "deposit" at a Vegas sportsbook?

[reno cool]

I remember several years ago a friend and I started betting baseball and had a good first two weeks. I was surprised to see the Stardust moved the lines after my bet about 3cents. My biggest bet was like 1300.

[footballmoney]

Sweet, I live here too!(actually Henderson) I meant deposit into an offshore sportsbook. Where do you do your wagering at? I guarantee you the MGM and Luxor don't adjust their lines for 3,500 bets. Walk up and ask them.

[footballmoney]

I am going to conduct a personal investigation into this. Sorry Reno Cool I don't believe you. When people were placing half million dollar bets on the Superbowl, the line wasn't changing!!!!!

[MonkeyF0cker]

Yeah, reno. Doesn't take much. These people think there are millions of dollars riding on each game in each of these books and there just isn't. The Super Bowl, yeah. Not baseball. Not basketball.

Most of the action is $20 parlay bettors with a bunch of $50-100 sides mixed in... Obviously, there are a few limit bets on a game but the markets just aren't THAT big.