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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82900

    #36
    If a 20 year old can beat the books without ever posting a pick at the forum he posts daily then I'm Neal Armstrong and I have walked on the moon before I was born.
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    • donjuan
      SBR MVP
      • 08-29-07
      • 3993

      #37
      If a 20 year old can beat the books without ever posting a pick at the forum he posts daily then I'm Neal Armstrong and I have walked on the moon before I was born.
      Because posting my bets in a forum obviously increases their EV.
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      • pokernut9999
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-25-07
        • 12757

        #38
        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
        That's a fairly ridiculous comment. Are you insinuating that you can't beat books while you are becoming more educated? In case you were unaware, collegiate level education helps tremendously in this field.

        I am saying that I highly doubt there are many 20 year college students that are profeesional bettors. Anyone 20 years old more than likely has not bet enough to qualify as a pro. "as they would say that is a small sample size."
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        • durito
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-03-06
          • 13173

          #39
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          If a 20 year old can beat the books without ever posting a pick at the forum he posts daily then I'm Neal Armstrong and I have walked on the moon before I was born.
          A blind monkey could beat many books.
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          • pokernut9999
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-25-07
            • 12757

            #40
            What would happen if they posted a play right after a game started ?



            I am sure this could not change the line or the outcome of the game
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            • donjuan
              SBR MVP
              • 08-29-07
              • 3993

              #41
              I am saying that I highly doubt there are many 20 year college students that are profeesional bettors. Anyone 20 years old more than likely has not bet enough to qualify as a pro. "as they would say that is a small sample size."
              Please define "pro". Also, how many bets do you think I make each year?
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              • footballmoney
                SBR High Roller
                • 01-09-09
                • 185

                #42
                Originally posted by pat venditto
                Because if everyone in the world who bets sports is beating the book at a consistent rate.. books go bankrupt. Sharps need squares to make a living.
                That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! The books always adjust accordingly. That is why their are spreads and different money line values. The odds of probability will always be in the books favor. There are many cappers who sell their picks, no one is worried that if they give out their picks the books might go under. The only reason people would not post picks is because they believe they can sell their picks.
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                • curious
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-20-07
                  • 9093

                  #43
                  Originally posted by pokernut9999
                  What would happen if they posted a play right after a game started ?



                  I am sure this could not change the line or the outcome of the game
                  It is ridiculous for someone who is not betting 7 figures a game to state that they refuse to post picks because the line will move when they bet and they don't want to give away secret information, blah blah blah. That is just preposterous.
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                  • MonkeyF0cker
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-12-07
                    • 12144

                    #44
                    What I don't understand is why people expect others to do all of the work so they can reap the rewards themselves...
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82900

                      #45
                      Originally posted by pokernut9999
                      What would happen if they posted a play right after a game started ?



                      I am sure this could not change the line or the outcome of the game
                      Exactly! Then donjuan and durito will say that the books know who they are at the forum and they will cut their limits.

                      It's amazing though. One of these sharps that win a shitload daily is a college student eating ramen noodles everyday and the other one lives in a one bedroom apartment in a 3rd world country.
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                      • donjuan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-29-07
                        • 3993

                        #46
                        It is ridiculous for someone who is not betting 7 figures a game to state that they refuse to post picks because the line will move when they bet and they don't want to give away secret information, blah blah blah. That is just preposterous.
                        We aren't talking about NFL games here.

                        An example: Las Palmas had 4 pt +650 2 team basketball pleasers up until recently. They no longer do because there are obviously some very good subsets for these. If I had posted my +650 pleasers on here, they would have gotten rid of them even sooner than they did.
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                        • pokernut9999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-25-07
                          • 12757

                          #47
                          Originally posted by donjuan
                          Please define "pro". Also, how many bets do you think I make each year?

                          This was Venditto's quote

                          "It's common sense that if every sports bettor in the world tailed don juans pick that books would be bankrupt. Use your head"


                          you explain
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                          • MonkeyF0cker
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-12-07
                            • 12144

                            #48
                            Originally posted by curious
                            It is ridiculous for someone who is not betting 7 figures a game to state that they refuse to post picks because the line will move when they bet and they don't want to give away secret information, blah blah blah. That is just preposterous.
                            That is absolutely not true. If you hit a number for the limit at a Vegas sportsbook, a side will move 1/2 a point and a total will move a full point at almost ANY book.
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                            • daggerkobe
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-25-08
                              • 10744

                              #49
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              Exactly! Then donjuan and durito will say that the books know who they are at the forum and they will cut their limits.

                              It's amazing though. One of these sharps that win a shitload daily is a college student eating ramen noodles everyday and the other one lives in a one bedroom apartment in a 3rd world country.



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                              • fiveteamer
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-14-08
                                • 10805

                                #50
                                why do we always have these stupid pissing matches?

                                donjuan made it guys, get over it.

                                god bless.
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                                • smoke a bowl
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-09-09
                                  • 2776

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                  That is absolutely not true. If you hit a number for the limit at a Vegas sportsbook, a side will move 1/2 a point and a total will move a full point at almost ANY book.
                                  Exactly. These are the threads where you can find out quickly who the ones are that don't know shit about gambling.
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    Exactly! Then donjuan and durito will say that the books know who they are at the forum and they will cut their limits.

                                    It's amazing though. One of these sharps that win a shitload daily is a college student eating ramen noodles everyday and the other one lives in a one bedroom apartment in a 3rd world country.
                                    Don't you live in Atlanta?
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                                    • curious
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 07-20-07
                                      • 9093

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                      Exactly. These are the threads where you can find out quickly who the ones are that don't know shit about gambling.
                                      yes, I dont know shit about gambling. I posted a 70% win record in 3 sports over 2 seasons by accident.
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                                      • smoke a bowl
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-09-09
                                        • 2776

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by curious
                                        yes, I dont know shit about gambling. I posted a 70% win record in 3 sports over 2 seasons by accident.
                                        Cmon Curious, we all know you're a fukin tard.
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                                        • curious
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 07-20-07
                                          • 9093

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                          Cmon Curious, we all know you're a fukin tard.
                                          That is an impressive retort. What are you, 12?
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                                          • MonkeyF0cker
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-12-07
                                            • 12144

                                            #56
                                            Here's a sharp play for tonight:

                                            Clippers +4

                                            Good luck getting that number now though. The only book that still has it in Vegas is Stations. This is one of the many reasons posting picks is pointless...
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                                            • smoke a bowl
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-09-09
                                              • 2776

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                              Here's a sharp play for tonight:

                                              Clippers +4

                                              Good luck getting that number now though. The only book that still has it in Vegas is Stations. This is one of the many reasons posting picks is pointless...
                                              GL.Got some 1H +2 -102 right when the LAC steam started on the screen.
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                                              • rjt721
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-06-07
                                                • 7929

                                                #58
                                                Louisville -1.
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                                                • smoke a bowl
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-09-09
                                                  • 2776

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by curious
                                                  That is an impressive retort. What are you, 12?
                                                  Well anybody that thinks it takes 7 figures to move a college basketball game doesn't deserve much of a retort at all.
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                                                  • MonkeyF0cker
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-12-07
                                                    • 12144

                                                    #60
                                                    Curious,

                                                    No offense but you are quite a bit off in your assessments. An $1100 bet on a total in college basketball moves the number a full point and $3300 on a side moves the line 1/2 a point. These are the standard limits at Vegas books. I'm not sure really sure how you figure it takes 7 figures to move lines...
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                                                    • donjuan
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-29-07
                                                      • 3993

                                                      #61
                                                      yes, I dont know shit about gambling. I posted a 70% win record in 3 sports over 2 seasons by accident.
                                                      This is meaningless without saying what price these were at.
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                                                      • durito
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-03-06
                                                        • 13173

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                        Curious,

                                                        No offense but you are quite a bit off in your assessments. An $1100 bet on a total in college basketball moves the number a full point and $3300 on a side moves the line 1/2 a point. These are the standard limits at Vegas books. I'm not sure really sure how you figure it takes 7 figures to move lines...

                                                        you can move the line on ncaab totals at every book in the world with $250 at pinny
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                                                        • MonkeyF0cker
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 06-12-07
                                                          • 12144

                                                          #63
                                                          70% on -1200 ML's...
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                                                          • Casi
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 02-16-09
                                                            • 506

                                                            #64
                                                            Reasons why a pro doesn´t care about posting his picks here:

                                                            1. They don´t want/need the attention, posters with LOCK!!! threads every day do thou.
                                                            2. Most of the times the line wouldn´t be available anymore, which makes it kind of pointless.
                                                            3. Records only mean something over a long period of time, who wouldn´t get bored of posting it every day...
                                                            4. A pro doesn´t laugh about small bettors, bigmouths do which is unprofessional and it bites..so you are calling out the wrong peeps here.
                                                            5. Most people don´t even know that being a pro involves more things than "only" picking winners, why should anyone want to explain it to them.
                                                            6. If i would read some of the bullshit here daily, i would leave and not think about posting any picks =P
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                                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 06-12-07
                                                              • 12144

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by durito
                                                              you can move the line on ncaab totals at every book in the world with $250 at pinny
                                                              Heh. Yeah, I don't doubt that. All those books with cloned lines, etc. Unfortunately, I can't use Pinny though. Just speaking from my vantage point...
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                                                              • curious
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 07-20-07
                                                                • 9093

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by durito
                                                                you can move the line on ncaab totals at every book in the world with $250 at pinny
                                                                Next you idiots will be saying you can move lines with $2.50.
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                                                                • Casi
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 02-16-09
                                                                  • 506

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by durito
                                                                  you can move the line on ncaab totals at every book in the world with $250 at pinny
                                                                  Depends...if Pinny didn´t label you as sharp and there is no reason the line should move, they will adjust it back to the old price fast.
                                                                  They don´t give in on all bets, they might even move it into the other direction...
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                                                                  • durito
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                                    • 13173

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by curious
                                                                    Next you idiots will be saying you can move lines with $2.50.
                                                                    The max bet at pinny moves the line every time unless they've deemed you stupid. Their max nowadays on NCAAB totals is $250. It's a sad reflection of the current state of the industry.
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                                                                    • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 06-12-07
                                                                      • 12144

                                                                      #69
                                                                      curious,

                                                                      Sorry. But you haven't a clue. Come here to Vegas, bet $1100 on a NCAAB total, and tell me who doesn't know what they're talking about.

                                                                      Thanks.
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                                                                      • curious
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 07-20-07
                                                                        • 9093

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                                        curious,

                                                                        Sorry. But you haven't a clue. Come here to Vegas, bet $1100 on a NCAAB total, and tell me who doesn't know what they're talking about.

                                                                        Thanks.
                                                                        Find someone else to harass asshole. I'm sure you are the smartest gambler whoever lived and I am so impressed with your genius. There, feel better now?
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