obama sending more troops

[Bookman]

"Yes, I have seen war up close. I have two bullet holes in my back courtesy of the Iraqi army. I have seen first hand what our enemies do to civilians. I have seen the aftermath of a marketplace blown up by a lunatic Islamic Jihadist because some mullah used the idiot in the great game."

---Curious

I honor and salute your service, no matter what I think of your views. I am lucky to have escaped injury, except for seeing real unnecessary death, but my younger brother is about to head off for his 3rd tour in Afghanistan and I can only hope he is as 'lucky' as I.

The 'nuke' comment was in response to an earlier post in which you said we should threaten our enemies by showing them pictures of the lunar surface, the message being we could make them so. No weapon causes such lifelessness, except nuclear weapons, so I feel the conclusion I drew is justified.

[reno cool]

the reason is that every man is a brother, colored or not
you guys seem to think the world is supposed to look at everyone as another person standing in their way

interesting viewpoint, but what that will probably end humanity soon enough

yes,this is how they define their self worth and justify their hate.

[reno cool]

mostly because the social-economic system they were bred to defend gives no value to humanity apart from its worth to the market.

[curious]

"Yes, I have seen war up close. I have two bullet holes in my back courtesy of the Iraqi army. I have seen first hand what our enemies do to civilians. I have seen the aftermath of a marketplace blown up by a lunatic Islamic Jihadist because some mullah used the idiot in the great game."

---Curious

I honor and salute your service, no matter what I think of your views. I am lucky to have escaped injury, except for seeing real unnecessary death, but my younger brother is about to head off for his 3rd tour in Afghanistan and I can only hope he is as 'lucky' as I.

The 'nuke' comment was in response to an earlier post in which you said we should threaten our enemies by showing them pictures of the lunar surface, the message being we could make them so. No weapon causes such lifelessness, except nuclear weapons, so I feel the conclusion I drew is justified.

I was using a hyperbole to make a point. But, a fleet of B1s and B52s will give you a really bad day.

[curious]

yes,this is how they define their self worth and justify their hate.

Who is "they"?

[curious]

mostly because the social-economic system they were bred to defend gives no value to humanity apart from its worth to the market.

As opposed to the high worth that socialist states like Venezuela, and communist states like North Korea and China, and Islamic states like Yemen give to humanity?

I was bred? Like in a laboratory? Or a dairy farm?

So, you talk about a people as if they are lab animals to make your point that those people put no value on humanity? Nice.

[curious]

I am not sure what you mean by "identifies with". No matter what, he does likely feel some bond with that person and you saying "brother" did not come out of nowhere, there is a reason to it.

Well, I have friends who get quite insulted over terms like "black culture" and "black community", pointing out to me that use of such terms is the epitome of racism, that is the assignment of belief systems to people because of their skin color.

I never thought too much about this until I made a lot of friends with young adults from the inner city when I taught young people who graduated from high school unable to read and write how to read and write. It was they who expressed disgust at this notion of a homogeneous "black community".

The term "brother" came from the radical movement in the early 60s. I was being sarcastic in using it.

[ryanXL977]

if we werent in iraq, nobody would have been killed in iraq

if iraq invaded and occupied us, im sure we should shoot them also
why are we allowed to occupy them? bc we are bigger and richer? they are a soveriegn nation. what gives us the right to go in there and expect no resistance?

[curious]

if we werent in iraq, nobody would have been killed in iraq

if iraq invaded and occupied us, im sure we should shoot them also
why are we allowed to occupy them? bc we are bigger and richer? they are a soveriegn nation. what gives us the right to go in there and expect no resistance?

So the Islamic Jihadists have every right to murder women and children because something is going on they don't like?

Interesting philosophy that you have.

[losturmarbles]

i want us off oil, we could have spent the trillion dollars from iraq, on new energy, would have created millions of jobs AND gotten us off oil, which is a problem because

a: its running out
b: it ruins the environment
c: it forces the usa to support awful regimes and creates a ton of anti american sentiment when we do

when we stop acting like the world is our walmart, we will be able to solve problems

we arent entitled to rule the world, we are no better than anyone else. we have no right to start wars anymore than china or russia does

a:so how much is left?
b:youre ruining the environment, maybe you should exterminate yourself to preserve the environment
c:then why are you so opposed to domestic drilling?

[losturmarbles]

there is no evidcece, ever, that tax cuts accomplish anything. none. zero

and pretty soon we wont have a planet to make money on bc it will be 90% underwater!
but i agree with your general sentiments other than the free market stuff. thats been pretty much disproven finally

then why does your boy obama keep saying that the stimulus is going to provide tax cuts to 95%?

you logic is reversed. most taxes are unnecessary and a burden to business and the economy. tax cuts are only rewards for political support.

90% underwater? why and when?

http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSL0636899020080306?feedType=RSS&feedName=environmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true

free market disproven finally? when?

[losturmarbles]

Really? Greenland must be crapping themselves - they recently voted for independence from Denmark partly on the basis of the natural resources which will be uncovered from the melting of the ice.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1131848/Nato-military-presence-Arctic-melting-ice-leads-scramble-energy-reserves.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4791047.ece

However, I can think of someone who does get thicker every year.

greenland's net ice growth is positive.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/30/the-ice-in-greenland-is-growing/

[losturmarbles]

id be interested in real capitalism, not just for a few poor people, while the rich are the ones who practice solcialism.
let me know when we have real capitalism, real free markets without intervention, without cheats and no bids. there can and never will be a true free market bc someone will always find a way to get rich manipulating it
always has been
always willbe

you can't manipulate the free market without the government's help.

[losturmarbles]

maybe if we didnt rape mexico, if we used our resources to help build up our neighbor, they wouldnt want to leave their country for ours
has anyone addressed this?

we rape mexico?

mexico rapes mexico.

its not our job to build up anyone else. funny how you think that mexico is our business but other countries aren't.

[ryanXL977]

if we have a problem with a country sending in immigrants, then do something about it
there is a reason they want to come here.
there are ways to build our economy up without starting made up wars

theres no grey area in your world eh mister rageful?

[losturmarbles]

if we have a problem with a country sending in immigrants, then do something about it
there is a reason they want to come here.
there are ways to build our economy up without starting made up wars

theres no grey area in your world eh mister rageful?

i dont have a problem with immigrants coming here, i have a problem with our government giving them health care, education, etc and putting the bill on tax payers.

at least you acknowledge mexico sends in immigrants

people do do something about it (ie minutemen) and they get called racist scum by people like you

made up wars are now stimulus??

[curious]

if we have a problem with a country sending in immigrants, then do something about it
there is a reason they want to come here.
there are ways to build our economy up without starting made up wars

theres no grey area in your world eh mister rageful?

So when we try to do something about it you can call us racists?

Yes, they want to come here to siphon off money to send back home and get free medical care and free education and not have to pay taxes. Lots of reasons to want to come here and work underground.

What does starting made up wars have to do with illegal immigrants pouring over the Mexican border?

[ryanXL977]

any poor people are going to want to go into any rich country

common sense

if the amount of money we spend on illegals is such a problem, then help them build their infrastructure and maybe they will stop sending their poor here. also, if there were no jobs, they wouldnt come. you wanna mow lawns and hand out titty bar cards in vegas? im sure you can get $5 an hr if you like

made up wars are stimulus, or at least an attempt to mask our failing economy. why is it you think we went into iraq. i assume oyu dont support made up wars. we havent fought a war we needed to fight in AT LEAST 65 years, if then.

me and pat buchanan agree on that.

[curious]

any poor people are going to want to go into any rich country

common sense

if the amount of money we spend on illegals is such a problem, then help them build their infrastructure and maybe they will stop sending their poor here. also, if there were no jobs, they wouldnt come. you wanna mow lawns and hand out titty bar cards in vegas? im sure you can get $5 an hr if you like

made up wars are stimulus, or at least an attempt to mask our failing economy. why is it you think we went into iraq. i assume oyu dont support made up wars. we havent fought a war we needed to fight in AT LEAST 65 years, if then.

me and pat buchanan agree on that.

So you approved of the Islamic Jihadists' murdering 3,000 Americans on 9/11? We should not have gone to war with them over that?

I don't give a **** why the illegals come here, it is ILLEGAL, they need to stay home.

We gave Mexico billions in aid, they wasted it all or stole it.

Why is it our obligation to give money to Mexico, let them build their own ****ing infrastructure.