NCAA Week 9 Opening Line Discussion (200 point Giveaway)

t-wizzle · 10-20-13, 05:18 PM

Wait what exactly is this?

A contest to see who can guess which line moves the most? Did I read that right?

Louisvillekid1 · 10-20-13, 05:20 PM

Houston Coming off that shootout 1 point loss against BYU @ home, and now they have to travel all the way to Jersey and Play Rutgers who has 16 days to prepare! What a horrible spot for them.

Rutgers has to be worth a look right off the bat.

Louisvillekid1 · 10-20-13, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Wait what exactly is this?

A contest to see who can guess which line moves the most? Did I read that right?

I want to see who can beat the closing line from that list of openers

Just to add to the thread

You are non pro so it doesn't concern you

The Giant · 10-20-13, 05:22 PM

I'll give it a shot:

North Carolina State +29.

Looks like a sandwich game for Florida State.

The Giant · 10-20-13, 05:29 PM

I guess I should've realized the line was already -30.

Meh, whatever, keep my points, you prick.

Ra77er · 10-20-13, 05:30 PM

This is an awesome idea, Im in and im gonna add 300 to prize pool.

Louisvillekid1 · 10-20-13, 05:33 PM

Utah in a bounce back spot +6.5???

Does Miami rebound and roll Wake, with the extra prep time?

Texas Tech +8???

Stanford/Oregon St. is very interesting match up.

Iowa St. +14 looks tasty.

Louisville/USF should be a very low scoring game. They always seem to struggle down there and are clearly going to have the hangover of blowing their season.

jarvol · 10-20-13, 05:37 PM

Furman @ LSU

frogsrangers · 10-20-13, 05:43 PM

Virginia Tech big

Vinnie Paz · 10-20-13, 06:10 PM

Texas tech will beat that lame OU squad straight up

N Texas should read 16.5

Chong Wizard · 10-20-13, 06:14 PM

Ill take shot in the dark with Illinois +11.5 feel like line moves down to 9.5 or 8.5 even 7.5

Noles1992 · 10-20-13, 06:18 PM

nebraska should be -13.5+ IMO

Louisvillekid1 · 10-20-13, 06:51 PM

EArly LEans:

Iowa St +14
Rutgers -8
Louisville/USF u anything above 55
Texas Tech +7

jjgold · 10-20-13, 06:56 PM

Baylor

Good work kid

Ra77er · 10-20-13, 07:13 PM

Fresno State

thebiggbird · 10-20-13, 07:34 PM

whats the grambling line?

Louisvillekid1 · 10-20-13, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Houston Coming off that shootout 1 point loss against BYU @ home, and now they have to travel all the way to Jersey and Play Rutgers who has 16 days to prepare! What a horrible spot for them.

Rutgers has to be worth a look right off the bat.

Line down to 7 from 9 ???

What am I missing here?

Louisvillekid1 · 10-20-13, 09:43 PM

500 points to the person who beat's the closer by the most

Closed Monday Midnight

Also we still are using this thread to post any thoughts on this weeks card

Louisvillekid1 · 10-20-13, 09:45 PM

I'll go with NAVY they should get bet down

MoneyLineDawg · 10-20-13, 09:56 PM

I'll try Auburn -24.5 (-110) right now at 5dimes

Ralphie Halves · 10-21-13, 03:30 AM

Some things that jump out to me early

- I like Texas +2. They had everything an elite Big XII team should have except for confidence, and they finally have that now. TCU about as unexciting as it gets.

- North Texas is my daddy. If it drops to -10, I'm all over it. So Miss is awful, but Tulane was too and they won outright. Gotta play the odds here though.

- Wyoming in a tailspin. This is not the same team that almost beat Nebraska. Couldn't even keep it close as a TD home fave against Colorado State, now only +5.5 on the Road against a solid SJSU team? SJSU BEAT Colorado State in Ft. Collins, and is coming off a bye. Big play here for me, unless one of my gurus say otherwise. This line is way off.

- And the "_________ isn't ________ points better than anybody" award for this week is -- Rice. Unimpressive team, and even through UTEP sucks, they do put up points, and teams like that can cover 17.5 against a below average team with ease. I'll go as far as to say it's an upset alert. Rice has no home field advantage ever. Most of their students are Asian and don't give a shit about football. El Paso to Houston is a boring but relatively painless bus ride, and I can say this from experience.

- Fresno State will either win by 3 TDs or get beat outright.

- Virginia is pretty bad. If they played Syracuse right now, the score would end up being a tie somehow. Pound GTech at anything under 10, and don't be afraid to play it after that. GT has a mountain of confidence and steam, UVA knows their season is a wash this year. This is one of those games where people will say that "Sharps are on Virginia". Well sharps don't watch a lot of college football. I'm a really happy square at -9.5.

- Somebody explain to me why Maryland is almost a 2 TD favorite on the road at Duke. Anybody.

- I would have capped the BSU/BYU game at a pick'em. Just sayin.

The week I get cocky like this is usually the week I get my balls blown out, so take this all for what it is.

Ralphie Halves · 10-21-13, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Line down to 7 from 9 ???

What am I missing here?

Absolutely nothing. Rutgers should roll.

bigballa · 10-21-13, 06:24 AM

surprised texas hasnt gotten more hype...why the hell they +2?!?!?! bye week last week having finally played like they should the week before...yeah i know its @ TCU but does that mean anything?? woulda thought line woulda been atleast -3.5?

broadway6 · 10-21-13, 06:29 AM

Biggest points move---

Lkids Sbr points (aka tokens)

Pin Fish · 10-21-13, 06:38 AM

Oregon -21......... see it going to 23-24 by weekend....They are getting no respect.... got jumped in polls need to pound the piss out of an OK UCLA in a BIG statement game................

TexasJayhawk · 10-21-13, 08:32 AM

True about Rice home field advantage or lack thereof. I should know...I live 2 minutes away. Quite a bit of wealthy neighbors and/or alumni usually show up to Rice games in October/November so not going to be empty...

Don't know which El Paso you went to but Houston-EP drive is minimum 10-12 hours, hardly a "painless bus ride".

UTEP is absolute trash (#122 or 123rd defense depending on site...) and could easily lose this game by 20-21 points.

RudyRuetigger · 10-21-13, 08:39 AM

best way to guess biggest line movement:

1. away from key numbers. a game at 7 or 7.5 isnt likely to jump over 3 points in a direction. same can be said for 3.

2. pick a smaller game. big games with big bets have alot of action. small games with big bets have even more movement.

3. huge spreads tend to move more and each point has less value.

TexasJayhawk · 10-21-13, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by bigballa

surprised texas hasnt gotten more hype...why the hell they +2?!?!?! bye week last week having finally played like they should the week before...yeah i know its @ TCU but does that mean anything?? woulda thought line woulda been atleast -3.5?

Because TCU has a great defense and Texas' offense is suspect and extremely inconsistent.
It'd be wise to discount the OU game as UT is not going to play that good again end of story.
Mack Brown' fate is sealed, the OU game merely provided an extension until the end of the season.

thetrinity · 10-21-13, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Line down to 7 from 9 ???

What am I missing here?

nothing really favorite being bet down to a td so sharp money can come back with rutgers

thetrinity · 10-21-13, 09:01 AM

saw this kinda late im gona take a shot with miami ohio goes down from +25, line move big against ohio last week and they still covered

thetrinity · 10-21-13, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Ralphie Halves

Some things that jump out to me early

- I like Texas +2. They had everything an elite Big XII team should have except for confidence, and they finally have that now. TCU about as unexciting as it gets.

- North Texas is my daddy. If it drops to -10, I'm all over it. So Miss is awful, but Tulane was too and they won outright. Gotta play the odds here though.

- Wyoming in a tailspin. This is not the same team that almost beat Nebraska. Couldn't even keep it close as a TD home fave against Colorado State, now only +5.5 on the Road against a solid SJSU team? SJSU BEAT Colorado State in Ft. Collins, and is coming off a bye. Big play here for me, unless one of my gurus say otherwise. This line is way off.

- And the "_________ isn't ________ points better than anybody" award for this week is -- Rice. Unimpressive team, and even through UTEP sucks, they do put up points, and teams like that can cover 17.5 against a below average team with ease. I'll go as far as to say it's an upset alert. Rice has no home field advantage ever. Most of their students are Asian and don't give a shit about football. El Paso to Houston is a boring but relatively painless bus ride, and I can say this from experience.

- Fresno State will either win by 3 TDs or get beat outright.

- Virginia is pretty bad. If they played Syracuse right now, the score would end up being a tie somehow. Pound GTech at anything under 10, and don't be afraid to play it after that. GT has a mountain of confidence and steam, UVA knows their season is a wash this year. This is one of those games where people will say that "Sharps are on Virginia". Well sharps don't watch a lot of college football. I'm a really happy square at -9.5.

- Somebody explain to me why Maryland is almost a 2 TD favorite on the road at Duke. Anybody.

- I would have capped the BSU/BYU game at a pick'em. Just sayin.

The week I get cocky like this is usually the week I get my balls blown out, so take this all for what it is.

explain this to me too since clemson plays maryland

mikemca · 10-21-13, 10:01 AM

I'll take UL Monroe -11.5

ChalkyDog · 10-21-13, 10:07 AM

Ralphie, as far as the Boise St game goes, I think the line reflects the fact that Southwick is out, or at least he was last I looked.

Had that game at roughly -3.5, but -7 is about right without Southwick.

ChalkyDog · 10-21-13, 10:29 AM

I have Rutgers as slight favorites, -9 has to be adjusting to the letdown aspect.

Pitt v Navy is a PK - IMO, slightly favoring Pitt obviously - but not close to a full TD better.

Just using raw numbers, Stanford is favored by 4 pts too many. Going to be a fun game.

Feel like Nevada is not getting enough respect. Should be favored by 10, IMO.

I always like WKU more than I should, and my numbers are skewed as a result, because I have WKU as close to two TD better than troy this week.

My numbers have Hawai'i as 6.5 dogs at home. Vs. CSU. I have a hard time believing that. Lean Hawai'i, but not significantly.

The Arizona game seems right number wise. I have Arizona as 21 point favorites over Colorado, but traveling to CU is probably worth 5 points with this Arizona team. QB is getting better each week, RB is trying to set records, Coach wont be the reason we lose, defense is improved enough to play tough. If you're betting CU, it's a backdoor cover scenario.

My pick for this contest is Florida Atlantic. Feel Auburn should be 3 TD favorites max.

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	8:00 PM	102	ARKANSAS STATE		+2½-110<input name="text_" value="1_313118_2.5_-110" type="checkbox">

Oct 24	105	KENTUCKY		+9½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312936_9.5_-110" type="checkbox">
	7:30 PM	106	MISSISSIPPI STA		-9½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312936_-9.5_-110" type="checkbox">

Oct 25	109	BOISE STATE		+7-110<input name="text_" value="0_312817_7_-110" type="checkbox">
	8:00 PM	110	BRIGHAM YOUNG		-7-110<input name="text_" value="1_312817_-7_-110" type="checkbox">

Oct 26	111	GEORGIA TECH	-9½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312761_-9.5_-110" type="checkbox">
12:30 PM	112	VIRGINIA	+9½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312761_9.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	113	CONNECTICUT	+22½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312877_22.5_-110" type="checkbox">
12:00 PM	114	CENTRAL FLORIDA	-22½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312877_-22.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	115	BALL STATE	-11½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312785_-11.5_-110" type="checkbox">
12:00 PM	116	AKRON	+11½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312785_11.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	117	MIAMI (OHIO)	+25-110<input name="text_" value="0_312801_25_-110" type="checkbox">
2:00 PM	118	OHIO	-25-110<input name="text_" value="1_312801_-25_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	119	BUFFALO
3:30 PM	120	KENT STATE
Oct 26	121	WESTERN MICHIGA	+3½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312797_3.5_-110" type="checkbox">
3:00 PM	122	MASSACHUSETTS	-3½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312797_-3.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	123	HOUSTON	+9-110<input name="text_" value="0_312745_9_-110" type="checkbox">
12:00 PM	124	RUTGERS	-9-110<input name="text_" value="1_312745_-9_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	125	BOSTON COLLEGE	+8-110<input name="text_" value="0_312865_8_-110" type="checkbox">
3:30 PM	126	NORTH CAROLINA	-8-110<input name="text_" value="1_312865_-8_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	127	CLEMSON	-13½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312737_-13.5_-110" type="checkbox">
3:30 PM	128	MARYLAND	+13½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312737_13.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	129	DUKE	+13½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312869_13.5_-110" type="checkbox">
3:30 PM	130	VIRGINIA TECH	-13½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312869_-13.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	131	PITTSBURGH	-6½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312821_-6.5_-110" type="checkbox">
1:00 PM	132	NAVY	+6½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312821_6.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	133	ALABAMA-BIRMING	+3½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312813_3.5_-110" type="checkbox">
5:00 PM	134	TEXAS-SAN ANTON	-3½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312813_-3.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	135	TEMPLE	+10½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312893_10.5_-110" type="checkbox">
3:00 PM	136	SOUTHERN METHOD	-10½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312893_-10.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	137	EASTERN MICHIGA	+30-110<input name="text_" value="0_312805_30_-110" type="checkbox">
3:30 PM	138	NORTHERN ILLINO	-30-110<input name="text_" value="1_312805_-30_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	139	ARIZONA	-16-110<input name="text_" value="0_312989_-16_-110" type="checkbox">
8:00 PM	140	COLORADO	+16-110<input name="text_" value="1_312989_16_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	141	VANDERBILT
12:21 PM	142	TEXAS A&M
Oct 26	143	FLORIDA ATLANTI	+25½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312729_25.5_-110" type="checkbox">
7:30 PM	144	AUBURN	-25½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312729_-25.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	145	TENNESSEE	+28-110<input name="text_" value="0_312873_28_-110" type="checkbox">
3:30 PM	146	ALABAMA	-28-110<input name="text_" value="1_312873_-28_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	147	UCLA	+21½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312889_21.5_-110" type="checkbox">
7:00 PM	148	OREGON	-21½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312889_-21.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	149	UTAH	+6½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312849_6.5_-110" type="checkbox">
4:00 PM	150	SOUTHERN CALIFO	-6½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312849_-6.5_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	151	TULSA
3:30 PM	152	TULANE
Oct 26	153	CALIFORNIA
11:00 PM	154	WASHINGTON
Oct 26	155	WEST VIRGINIA	+9-110<input name="text_" value="0_312773_9_-110" type="checkbox">
3:45 PM	156	KANSAS STATE	-9-110<input name="text_" value="1_312773_-9_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	157	MICHIGAN STATE	-11-110<input name="text_" value="0_312825_-11_-110" type="checkbox">
3:30 PM	158	ILLINOIS	+11-110<input name="text_" value="1_312825_11_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	159	WAKE FOREST	+21-110<input name="text_" value="0_312881_21_-110" type="checkbox">
12:00 PM	160	MIAMI	-21-110<input name="text_" value="1_312881_-21_-110" type="checkbox">
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3:30 PM	162	FLORIDA STATE	-29-110<input name="text_" value="1_312733_-29_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	163	TEXAS TECH	+8-110<input name="text_" value="0_312753_8_-110" type="checkbox">
3:30 PM	164	OKLAHOMA	-8-110<input name="text_" value="1_312753_-8_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	165	TEXAS	+2-110<input name="text_" value="0_312725_2_-110" type="checkbox">
7:30 PM	166	TEXAS CHRISTIAN	-2-110<input name="text_" value="1_312725_-2_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	167	NORTHWESTERN	+4-110<input name="text_" value="0_312897_4_-110" type="checkbox">
12:00 PM	168	IOWA	-4-110<input name="text_" value="1_312897_-4_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	169	UNLV	+4½-110<input name="text_" value="0_312885_4.5_-110" type="checkbox">
6:05 PM	170	NEVADA	-4½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312885_-4.5_-110" type="checkbox">
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4:00 PM	176	WESTERN KENTUCK	-8-110<input name="text_" value="1_312833_-8_-110" type="checkbox">
Oct 26	177	NOTRE DAME
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7:30 PM	184	MISSISSIPPI	-40½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312861_-40.5_-110" type="checkbox">
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7:00 PM	190	MISSOURI
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12:00 PM	192	IOWA STATE	+14-110<input name="text_" value="1_312789_14_-110" type="checkbox">
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7:00 PM	194	KANSAS	+35½-110<input name="text_" value="1_312769_35.5_-110" type="checkbox">
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