Garret Anderson? future Hall of famer??

fiveteamer · 02-10-09, 07:41 PM

Yeah, very underrated. All with one team. Champion.
I say YES.

Chi_archie · 02-10-09, 07:43 PM

you are a smart man Fiver...

I'd say yes with 3-5 more years of consistent play...he IS maybe the most under-rated player in baseball....super consistent

fiveteamer · 02-10-09, 07:48 PM

Look at his RBI's over the years. All he does is drive in runs and is productive. I'm not familiar with his character, but I've never heard of him trying to run over kids with an SUV or slipping girls mickeys...

tullamore · 02-10-09, 07:52 PM

I have been a big fan of his for some time, always was underrated, did a lot of things well. I am not sure if he was every great in one category. The HOF often comes down to numbers, his are solid across the board but he was never dominate in one category. He has 2368 hits and 272 HR, if he could get to over 3000 hits and 350 HR, I think he may get a shot. I have a feeling he gets lost on the shuffle do the lack of eye popping stats.

fiveteamer · 02-10-09, 07:53 PM

avg. like 105 rbis a year after 14 seasons. Pretty badass. Who knows if he will get in or not, but I have always said I would vote for him.

element1286 · 02-10-09, 08:17 PM

No. Decent numbers at a corner OF spot does not make him a Hall of Famer. His .327 OBP is pretty awful.

Chi_archie · 02-10-09, 08:24 PM

he should get 3,000 hits.... and that's an automatic....... well for a non-roid user..... but hey he might have used too, his hr numbers jumped up quite a big in the middle of his career....

but I don't think people will suspect them....screw OBP, this is the HOF, they don't look at real stats.....

element1286 · 02-10-09, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

he should get 3,000 hits.... and that's an automatic....... well for a non-roid user..... but hey he might have used too, his hr numbers jumped up quite a big in the middle of his career....

but I don't think people will suspect them....screw OBP, this is the HOF, they don't look at real stats.....

I doubt he gets 3,000 hits. He is still a free agent now, and GM's are realizing that veteran corner OF's that play poor defense aren't that valuable at all.

13th Inning · 02-10-09, 08:29 PM

Nice player... very nice player, but not a Hall of Famer.
He's a notch or two below that level.

15 seasons, only an allstar 3 times... only 4 years over 100 RBI... Never in top-3 in MVP voting.

I'm not knocking him - I've always been a fan of his - but he's not a Hall of Famer. I'm just happy that he has a ring; it'd be a shame to have a career like his and not get a ring.

fiveteamer · 02-10-09, 09:40 PM

If Bernie Williams gets in, he has to get in.

daggerkobe · 02-10-09, 09:42 PM

Bread · 02-10-09, 09:44 PM

I hit him big when he won the Home Run event as the biggest dog.

I love Garrett.

ryanXL977 · 02-10-09, 10:21 PM

no chance
none
zip

never gets on base, takes no pitches, never walks
not a fan at all

13th Inning · 02-10-09, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by fiveteamer

If Bernie Williams gets in, he has to get in.

Bernie Williams isn't getting in either...
It's like if Steve Garvey doesn't get in, then Keith Hernandez doesn't get in...
(and I'm a HUGE Keith Hernandez fan...)

Sinister Cat · 02-10-09, 10:28 PM

I agree with Ryan. Not even the baseball writers would vote this guy in. 3 all-star teams. No MVPs. Only 2 really good years. Only bbref comparable who's in is Tony Perez, and he's a better player and a marginal HOFer.

Also notice his only power years are now looking like possibly the peak 'roid years in baseball-- could his name pop up on a list?

ryanXL977 · 02-10-09, 10:32 PM

bernie williams no chance either
but a better chance than GA bc he was a much much better fielder.
is jeter a clear first ballot?

daggerkobe · 02-10-09, 10:33 PM

GA couldn't even get in the Angels Hall of Fame.

roasthawg · 02-10-09, 10:34 PM

Not even close.

13th Inning · 02-10-09, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

bernie williams no chance either
but a better chance than GA bc he was a much much better fielder.
is jeter a clear first ballot?

Not sure if Jeter is first ballot (probably not), but I think he'll get in eventually... Very nice player, and the New York market certainly helps his case, especially considering he was a middle infielder. He's a no doubt Hall of Famer IMO. And I don't even like him....

I mean, if Sandberg has gotten in, then Jeter is a no brainer...

ryanXL977 · 02-10-09, 10:39 PM

if jeter played for, say, the pirates, would he be in? i mean he is an awful fielder, he hits into 150 gidps per yr

tullamore · 02-10-09, 10:42 PM

Is Jeter best stat for the hall the 4 rings?

Sinister Cat · 02-10-09, 10:42 PM

Jeter will be in and I think he deserves it. I do think he will be a first balloter, because he is so famous.

If he was on the Pirates I don't think he would get in. Trammell and Whitaker have pretty similar qualifications to Jeter. If they played in NY they are in.

ryanXL977 · 02-10-09, 10:43 PM

well put in brosius for 3 then
and leyritz
and many others

obv jeter was good, but he aint now

daggerkobe · 02-10-09, 10:48 PM

.312 career BA. Just 465 hits away from 3000, which he'll accomplish in 2.5 years. Most post season hits in MLB history.

1st ballot for Jeter.

ryanXL977 · 02-10-09, 10:49 PM

its true
i just hate his awful defense

element1286 · 02-10-09, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

its true
i just hate his awful defense

Me too.

seaborneq · 02-11-09, 12:10 AM

next question

Chi_archie · 02-11-09, 12:47 AM

I think the key with Anderson is longevity..... if he can last as a dh for 4 or more years, and stay as healthy as he did last year, he should get 3,000 hits very easily.... and then he's basically a lock to get 3,000 hits.

is Craig Biggio a HOF-er???

I think a good example of someone with similar stats at a corner outfield spot is Jim Rice....

He just made it in... Rice had a bit more pop and played on a bigger market team with better players, but he struck out a ton, and didn't walk much either....

unless Jeter gets hurt or retires very early, he will be in the Hall very fast..

tullamore · 02-11-09, 12:51 AM

Biggio, yes. Was arguable the best 2nd baseman for a 10 year period.

ryanspeer2001 · 02-11-09, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by tullamore

Biggio, yes. Was arguable the best 2nd baseman for a 10 year period.

If anyone was to make odds on this bet what would it be.

Biggio or Bagwell to make HOF

Yes -????
No -????

I'd say...

Yes +115
No -125

Its such a toss up and I would like to see both get in but we will know in the next few years as long as their names, paticularly bagwells stay out of Roid talk.

tullamore · 02-11-09, 01:00 AM

I think Biggio gets in on the 1st ballot, Bagwell is not going to get in because of the steroid talks. I always thought Biggio was a better player, despite Bagwell's MVP.

Chi_archie · 02-11-09, 01:04 AM

biggio should get in no prob.... he kills sandberg in stats...at the same position for most of his career not first ballot though
bagwell???? maybe, but it might take awhile... there are so many other power hitters in his era.... he did hit for a real good avg though...

tullamore · 02-11-09, 01:10 AM

Is there a difference between McGwire and Bagwell? McGwire did not get many votes this year probably because of his appearance before the Senate.

ryanspeer2001 · 02-11-09, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by tullamore

Is there a difference between McGwire and Bagwell? McGwire did not get many votes this year probably because of his appearance before the Senate.

I would say you answered your own question to an extent. While both players have had stellar careers and both fan favorties for a long time there are a few factors that seperate them.

1. 70 Home Run season

2. Mcgwire and Bonds were and up until now (Arod) the FACE of the steroid battle.