Tomlin, the best coach in the NFL?

element1286 · 02-02-09, 02:35 AM

I don't know if I would go that far, but he is proving himself more and more.

Panic · 02-02-09, 02:37 AM

It took Cowher 15 years to do what Tomlin has done in 2. The Steelers are the best when it comes to picking coaches. No one had ever heard of Cowher when he was hired. No one ever heard of Tomlin when he was hired. Now everyone wants both.

element1286 · 02-02-09, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by Panic

It took Cowher 15 years to do what Tomlin has done in 2. The Steelers are the best when it comes to picking coaches. No one had ever heard of Cowher when he was hired. No one ever heard of Tomlin when he was hired. Now everyone wants both.

Common denominator is the QB, when Cowher got a real one (although I thought O'Donnell was good enough), he won.

Panic · 02-02-09, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by element1286

Common denominator is the QB, when Cowher got a real one (although I thought O'Donnell was good enough), he won.

No way, any of us Steeler fans could imagine what Tomlin has done this far. I dont care if he had Montana as QB.

diogee · 02-02-09, 02:44 AM

Tomlin has done a solid job but he inherited a team that was already solid.

element1286 · 02-02-09, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by diogee

Tomlin has done a solid job but he inherited a team that was already solid.

Agreed.

Panic · 02-02-09, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by diogee

Tomlin has done a solid job but he inherited a team that was already solid.

So did Norv Turner. How has that done for him? Lets see what the guy in Indy does next year....he inherited a good team there as well. Lets not kid ourselves. This young guy, Tomlin, just had the hardest schedule in football and coached them to a Super Bowl win in his 2nd year.

diogee · 02-02-09, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by Panic

So did Norv Turner. How has that done for him? Lets see what the guy in Indy does next year....he inherited a good team there as well. Lets not kid ourselves. This young guy, Tomlin, just had the hardest schedule in football and coached them to a Super Bowl win in his 2nd year.

Toughest prior to the season but ended up being the 7th toughest...still equally solid. The advantage Tomlin has over those 2 is a great defense which is usually a solid starting foundation to any franchise.

Chi_archie · 02-02-09, 02:54 AM

his w-l record is decent

and winning a SB 50% of your season's ain't bad either....

will he be around as long as knoll or cowher? that will be interesting..... when he has to rebuild.... give imput in the draft ect.... didn't like alot of his decisions this year, but when it comes down to it... players love him and he has a great coaching staff

Panic · 02-02-09, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by diogee

Toughest prior to the season but ended up being the 7th toughest...still equally solid. The advantage Tomlin has over those 2 is a great defense which is usually a solid starting foundation to any franchise.

I can keep throwing names out there, dio. What about Wade Phillips in Dallas? He has all kinds of talent when he inherited the team, but he couldnt get them to the playoffs. Tomlin is the real deal.

diogee · 02-02-09, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by Panic

I can keep throwing names out there, dio. What about Wade Phillips in Dallas? He has all kinds of talent, but he couldnt get them to the playoffs. Tomlin is the real deal.

Still defense my friend...I'll take a team with an extra solid D and a decent offense over a team with a mediocre D and an offense loaded with studs. Pitt has it's fair share of big play guys on offense as well.

Not trying to take anything away from Pitt...they did what was most important and that was find a way to win no matter what. That is what champions are made of whether they do it on D or O.

That being said I am more interested in what Singletary will do in 2 years.

Panic · 02-02-09, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by diogee

Still defense my friend...I'll take a team with an extra solid D and a decent offense over a team with a mediocre D and an offense loaded with studs. Pitt has it's fair share of big play guys on offense as well.

Not trying to take anything away from Pitt...they did what was most important and that was find a way to win no matter what. That is what champions are made of whether they do it on D or O.

That being said I am more interested in what Singletary will do in 2 years.

I knew you were going there.

Good Luck to your 9er's.

diogee · 02-02-09, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by Panic

I knew you were going there.

Good Luck to your 9er's.

Long road ahead...

Congrats again to your Steelers and their season.

jjgold · 02-02-09, 05:53 AM

He is a good motivator

Pitt won on D

The Seer · 02-02-09, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Panic

It took Cowher 15 years to do what Tomlin has done in 2. The Steelers are the best when it comes to picking coaches. No one had ever heard of Cowher when he was hired. No one ever heard of Tomlin when he was hired. Now everyone wants both.

Cowher was a popular D coordinator under Shottenheimer.

The Seer · 02-02-09, 12:35 PM

Labeau's D and Roth won this game. A fukin monkey coulda been the head coach.

mmike032 · 02-02-09, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by The Seer

Labeau's D and Roth won this game. A fukin monkey coulda been the head coach.

ironic

jjgold · 02-02-09, 12:38 PM

Tomlin has no clue what the fuk even goes on during the game, he is a strong figure head type only. He knows zero about Football, Pitt has the players. It also means Cowher was overrated. The Rooneys is why Pitt wins.

Casperwaits · 02-02-09, 12:41 PM

Not for nothing, but have we forgotten about Bill Belicheck? The guy is an all around motivator, coach, eye of talent. Pretty strong coach I must say.

The Seer · 02-02-09, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Casperwaits

Not for nothing, but have we forgotten about Bill Belicheck? The guy is an all around motivator, coach, eye of talent. Pretty strong coach I must say.

easily best coach hands down, loses assts and GMs all the time and still win. Went 11-5 with a guy at QB that hadn't started since high school.

daggerkobe · 02-02-09, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Panic

So did Norv Turner. How has that done for him? Lets see what the guy in Indy does next year....he inherited a good team there as well. Lets not kid ourselves. This young guy, Tomlin, just had the hardest schedule in football and coached them to a Super Bowl win in his 2nd year.

Turner inherited a team that couldn't win a playoff game. He took them to the AFC Championship.

Tomlin inherited the SB champions.

Shortstop · 02-02-09, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by The Seer

Labeau's D and Roth won this game. A fukin monkey coulda been the head coach.

Ah......... Nevermind.

Panic · 02-02-09, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Turner inherited a team that couldn't win a playoff game. He took them to the AFC Championship.

Tomlin inherited the SB champions.

Turner inherited a 14-2 football team. Tomlin inherited a 5-11 team.

fiveteamer · 02-02-09, 01:36 PM

Kevin Colbert.

element1286 · 02-02-09, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Panic

Turner inherited a 14-2 football team. Tomlin inherited a 5-11 team.

Tomlin inherited an 8-8 team one year removed from being the Super Bowl Champs.

Panic · 02-02-09, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Tomlin inherited an 8-8 team one year removed from being the Super Bowl Champs.

You're right. Why was I thinking they only won 5 or 6 games that year? Still missed the playoffs though. Tomlin is the real deal. How many does he have to win before people give him credit?

element1286 · 02-02-09, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Panic

You're right. Why was I thinking they only won 5 or 6 games that year? Still missed the playoffs though. Tomlin is the real deal. How many does he have to win before people give him credit?

There is a difference between credit, and going overboard.

Panic · 02-02-09, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by element1286

There is a difference between credit, and going overboard.

I dont think I'm overboard at all. You would be hard pressed to name 3 better coaches in the NFL right now. After Belichick, its not so easy.

daggerkobe · 02-02-09, 02:21 PM

Jon Gruden won a SB his first season with Tampa..... and never won another playoff game after that.

Hold off on that HoF induction for Tomlin.

daggerkobe · 02-02-09, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Tomlin inherited an 8-8 team one year removed from being the Super Bowl Champs.

And you can blame the subpar season on Big Ben's motorcycle accident and emergency appendectomy.

When healthy, this is a SB team.

Panic · 02-02-09, 02:31 PM

I'm not gonna deny that Tomlin got a very good team when he arrived but you still have to be a good coach to take them to Super Bowl champs. Just look at all the talent Dallas has and they were one of the favorites to win it all this year, but they missed the playoffs.

element1286 · 02-02-09, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

And you can blame the subpar season on Big Ben's motorcycle accident and emergency appendectomy.

When healthy, this is a SB team.

Agreed.

Shortstop · 02-02-09, 02:35 PM

Too many egos and individuals on that Dallas team.

biggamer3 · 02-02-09, 02:44 PM

Love Tomlin!

But Coughlin is the best