I will have my lawyers call your lawyers to draft a contract of rules that we will both obey.
wtf kind of contest is this?
wtf kind of contest is this?
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Originally posted by SBR_JohnComment -
aao, leave him alone. he's just talking for nothing.. i know his type.. i've seen 2090 pavers before in my life. he's talking a big game here. he ain't sending squat.. and you can take that to the bank..Originally posted by AgainstAllOddsComment -
Pavy you should question his judges. There should be a no-blood rule, and we all know that Onner is Nicky's son.Comment -
You don't understand. You will never see $50,000 in your lifetime. People make contracts for $500 personal training sessions. It's about 3 pages long. Ask Slickfazzer.Originally posted by AgainstAllOddsComment -
He chose the only 4 people he knows in this forum.Originally posted by Bread
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whatever you wanna do, i'm ok with it.. lets just get the wheels in motion. we will hire someone to put up pinny lines at 8 am or whatever time you want and grade the games too. we will pay him 1k for the whole year..the guy that wins the 50k will pay for the 1k and the guy that loses will pay nothing.. or we could split it 500 apiece..Comment -
diogee is the guy, obviously.Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
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That's not the only silly thing about Pavy, but I agree Dagger. Nicky would win running away. It'd be like the team contest, Pavy would just stop posting plays after four months, realizing his efforts were more futile than those of Sisyphus (who was punished by Tartarus to roll a boulder up a hill for eternity).Originally posted by daggerkobe
Pavy is the only person on the forum who's obsessed with telling anyone who'll stop to listen that he always hits between 60%-80%. In my opinion, this constant display of hubris is evidence of the fact that much of what he says must be taken with a grain of salt. He's been on a hot streak lately, but nothing of unprecedented proportions.
Nicky has been sharing wisdom with the denizens of this forum for years now, and all of what he shares has held up to intense scrutiny. Nicky makes videos that entertain and enlighten, Pavy makes videos where we don't even know which person he is. Nicky made everyone else in the team contest look like they were standing still. Pavy's greatest accomplishment here is trying to prove people are ghosting.
Pavy has come up with every crazy rule in the book to try to make this contest unappealing to his opponent, including but not limited to: an unusually long duration, a staggering winner's stake, an offshore bank with no details as to who would be the account holder, unusual sports, a contract, a panel of arbitrators, and multiple pages of rules. To me, that is the behavior of a weasel trying to wriggle out of trap which he knows will cause him to lose face.
Nicky, you have my support, and if you request it, my skills in serving as your advocate to the panel of arbitration. I hope this contest goes through so Pavy will finally be quiet and get off his high horse. I have no problem with anyone who wants to turn tout, but his constant advice to everyone to follow his picks and make millions strikes me as disingenuous. No one who achieves the level of success that he claims would be so anxious to throw it in everyone's face, the money he's making would be his own reward.
Kick his butt, Nicky!
Originally posted by StraitShooterComment -
Looks like Mr.Pavy has some sharps picking him.
Code:View Poll Results: Who wins a fair contest? pavyracer 15 55.56% Nicky Santauro 12 44.44%
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great post, rogie.. you're one of the few here that can read right through this guy.. you also noticed the cayman islands acct, the 3,000 games, the 3 yrs he wanted, the lawyers.. i've been posting 11 yrs and i never heard any of this in a 1 on 1 contest. he's trying to weasel his way out, when he never even had intentions to enter before.. but i called his bluff, and i agreed to all, and if he really does want to go by those rules, i am in..
i just dont get it why we cant just do a 1,000 game contest for 6 months at 5k-10k and put mony at wsex? if he was that serious, that's what he'd do.. not 50k and lawyers and all..
paver, how about a 5k-10k contest then till baseball all star break.. let wsex hold it, 10 games max per day till July 10 or so, or after 1,000 games, whichever comes first, cause you know and i know you ain't sending 50k and you nver had intentions to either.Comment -
Pavy...if you had lawyers..... which you prob don't..... how could you get them to call Nicky's? where would they get the #... if Nicky had a lawyer....why would you make such a ridiculous statement if you ever really wanted to do this contest?
I'll have my lawyers call your lawyers... c'mon....
just do us this post your lawyer's firm's website, or number, email or street address or anything here...Nicky can do the same...Comment -
I'll be Nicky's lawyer for free. I'll match my skills at written argument, and I have no Juris Doctor, against any of Pavy's imaginary lawyers, or his imaginary local, or his imaginary bankroll. In fact, Nina is a lawyer, I wonder if she would represent Mr. Nicky. It would really mean a lot to me to see Pavy get humiliated by exposing all the fallacies he spews to this forum in the hopes of being free from his constant self-aggrandizement.
Originally posted by StraitShooterComment -
This time it's Pavy's fault.
Last time it was LT's fault.
Are you starting to notice a trend here?? Unreal.Comment -
don't worry, there is no lawyer, there is no money there and there is no bet. this is all a game to pavy.. trust me on this.. paver is just acting like some big shot sharpie with money..
don't waste your time boys.. carry on with your lives, there is not going to be a contest, especially for 50k.. maybe had i said 50 bucks, then maybe.. he might have done it.. i'm still not sure.
come on paver, send that 50k i want to teach you a lesson..
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it's obvious you and i and your wife have a problem with each other, but you dont have to make it look that obvious by taking his side here. i already said that i will abide by any rules he suggested, so what's your point.Originally posted by Bread
and i will challenge LT in same contest... AND........ give him +140 to boot.. i will put up 7000 for his 5k..Comment -
Gentlemen,
This a $50,000 contest. This contest can only be handled legally. When two celebrity cappers face off in a battle for $50,000 their legal teams have to come in agreement before the contest starts. I will not risk my $50,000 at a book that may cease to exist by the end of the year. I want the funds guaranteed at a bank with FDIC insurance. This contest has to be prepared methodically. Every loophole has to be plugged in (which actually is RogueScholar's expertise) before I duel with Nicky.
If some of you think is easy to challenge someone for $50,000 without legal guarantees then they can challenge Nicky themselves. I will not risk my reputation and career for nothing.Comment -
Huh? I have no problem with you. Bread loves everyone. Except Binar-99.
I just call em as I see em.
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if no pm's or phone calls have taken place..then NEITHER wants to do this contest...
just 2 drama queens playin chicken WWE style on a forum...Comment -
I nominate LT Profits to post lines and grade
He would do it for $1kComment -
you're right.. not one pm by him.. i am not taking this seriouly at all cause i can read through his posts that he is only toying with us.Originally posted by Chi_archie
you're right because with LT, him and i exchanged about 16 pm's during that big 24 hr period..
speaking of LT, he agreed to do this contest with me before.. he even said it's not fair cause he'd beat me, then changed his mind after.. he is lucky he backed out cause this LT guy ended up -20 units with stale lines and i ended up +49 units..he saved himself 2k.. i would've slaughtered that fukkin thief tout.. even over a 100 game contest vs 20 yr old onner, he ended up -10 units..lol.. and that's over 100 games only.. over 100 games, your avg square loses 4.54 units.. he lost 10 units, not including the -20 units in the stale contest.. wow, and this guy is charging people 900 bucks for his picks. that's sad.
If LT challenges me in this contest, i am willing to give him +150.. i will put up 7500 to his 5k..Comment -
No one has said that a contract is unreasonable, but this is a rather straightforward test of skill, and I fail to see why two men of honor (not that I'm saying Pavy has any honor, just putting forth a hypothetical) can't come to an equitable agreement without having to hide behind the craftiness of their respective attorneys.Originally posted by pavyracer
Putting aside that the stake for this contest seems extremely disproportionate to the task at hand, I can understand why Pavy wants some sort of guarantor of funds, and the interest which would come with a more regulated financial institution than a sportsbook. The question remains though, why did he recommend Cayman National for locating the account? CN doesn't have FDIC insurance! His arguments are already unraveling.
And what reputation does Pavy have to put at stake? His status as #1 Ghost Hunter on SBR? #1 Bullshitter? Someone needs to explain this to me, the only thing I feel Pavy has a reputation for around here was backing up every statement EnglishMike made when he was here. That behavior wouldn't afford credibility to anyone.
If $50,000 would truly risk his career, as he states above, then that is proof positive that Pavy generated that figure not to give weight to the contest, but to encourage Nicky to be the first to abandon the idea. Pavy is outing himself as a fraud the more he asserts these terms and conditions for the contest.
I'm just plugging the loopholes, since Pavy already has agreed that I have expertise in this area and my judgment can be trusted. I hope those of you reading give some consideration to the way this proposition has unfolded.
Originally posted by StraitShooterComment -
Whatever happens Nicky, by the end of the week there has to be a contest between either pavy or LT and you.Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
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Look pavy has no chance, I have been paying attention to every player on this site over the past six months, they are only a few players here that could compete with nicky, He studies the line not the game and that is how you win in this business. Look pavy had a good run and that is why this is even being brought up, Hellanybody can have a good run. I will even put my money up , I will take anybody's action on this, does not matter, only if Nicky is serious about it. Sometimes its hard to take novices serious.
I will lay 100K on nick, now this can get serious.Comment -
RogueScholar,
I originally offered Cayman Islands bank because no questions would have to be asked from an american and a canadian wanting to open an offshore account. Cayman Islands encourage offshore investors.
When I realized that Nicky has never travelled outside his neighborhood in Montreal/East LA (you have to see the street hockey video to figure out he is not well travelled) I offered him the option to deposit the money in Vegas bank that also offers FDIC insurance. The money in Cayman Islands would be safe. They are the offshore capital of the world. I travel to Cayman Islands for business frequently and I can arrange with the local bank manager to send monthly statements to Montreal/East LA for Nicky to review.Comment -
paver, i am in buddy.. just do the work and lets get the wheels in motion here so we can start asap.. 50k it is.. so the bet is on.. i expect to hear from you in the next few days regarding this matter. let me know.. i am getting the 50k ready..
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nicky is ready to put up 50k,pavy wants it sent to an unknown island
nicky gives good all around gambling advice,pavys only advise is to play his picks.
nicky has many years of all around gamblinng experience,from bookmaking to gambler,plus a lot of industry knowledge, years of posting at many gambling forums, pavys experience starts and stops here.
nicky drives a truck,pavey drives a go-cart.
nicky would be a clear cut favorite,the good news for pavey is favorites don`t always win.Comment -
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Pavyracer,
First of all, I think it's cute that we're writing letters to each other now. We're pen pals!
I had no misunderstanding about the reasoning behind using the Cayman Islands as a financial center. I'm well aware of their reputation as a premier world banking center, with almost all of the world's largest private banks holding a license to operate there. You specifically said FDIC, though, which would only be available with an American bank.
Sincerely,
RogueScholarOriginally posted by StraitShooterComment -
Proof that Pavy has been to the Cayman Islands
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So sick of people that call others out, challenging them to capoffs, and when their bluff is called, they start including all sorts of silly & moronic stipulations to get them to back out.
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Originally posted by daggerkobeSo sick of people that call others out, challenging them to capoffs, and when their bluff is called, they start including all sorts of silly & moronic stipulations to get them to back out.
exactly dagg, kind of like langs response to losing, I am perfect in the super bowls,lolComment -
Dear Nicky,
You need to call the law firm of Carey Trotz. Just google him and ask to speak to Felicia B.G. Buttocks. She has the account number where the $50,000 needs to be deposited. She will provide you the contract than needs to be signed by you or your representatives in the presense of a notary public. Be careful and read all the fine print because sports gambling is not legalized in every state. I will be calling Felicia tomorrow afternoon to confirm the reception of the signed contract and then we are ready to start gambling.
Respectfully,
Pavy RacerComment -
wait wait.. slow down.. slow down.. we're talking 50k here.. who am i sending this 50k to? i never heard of this person. i am not going to get scammed for 50k.. before i do this, does anyone know these people. has anyone heard of them? who the fukk are these people.. lets do it at a legit bank that i've heard of.. and what are we paying these lawyers.. lol... i need some research done.. if someone can confirm this is all legit, i'm in.. and i'm from canada, don't forget this.. i hope this ain't a problem.
someone pls do some research for me on this.. this is 50k here. i dont want to get scammed by paver.. even though i know this is all a game to him..Comment -
The bank is 100% legit, I've had offshore accounts with them for years.Originally posted by Nicky SantoroOriginally posted by pags11Originally posted by BuddyBearOriginally posted by curiousComment
