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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #36
    Originally posted by frostno98
    Memo to Charger fans, your team is 8-8 which=to not very good. Your not going to beat a 12-4 Colts team on a 9 games winning streak. With an MVP QB that is known to dissect every teams secondary, especially against a 31st ranked Charger's passed Defense.
    All due respect frostno, you are pretty blatantly a Denver homer

    I don't mean to make it sound like I'm giving the Chargers no chance, of course they are live, especially at home. I just think Indy is the better team.
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    • BadBeatBodog
      SBR MVP
      • 06-05-08
      • 1006

      #37
      Originally posted by frostno98
      Memo to Charger fans, your team is 8-8 which=to not very good. Your not going to beat a 12-4 Colts team on a 9 games winning streak. With an MVP QB that is known to dissect every teams secondary, especially against a 31st ranked Charger's passed Defense.
      Stop quoting flawed stats.

      Indy allows a 68.4% comp. against; SD 67.9% against
      Indy allows 6.7 yds/att; SD 6.8 yds/att
      Indy allows a 34.3 1st down%; SD allows a 35.2 1st down%
      Indy allowed 33 pass plays of 20 or more yards; SD allowed 37

      Also, luckily, records reset in the playoffs. The 8-8 and 12-4 are now irrelevant.
      "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

      "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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      • Shortstop
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        • 01-02-09
        • 27281

        #38
        Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
        Stop quoting flawed stats.

        Indy allows a 68.4% comp. against; SD 67.9% against
        Indy allows 6.7 yds/att; SD 6.8 yds/att
        Indy allows a 34.3 1st down%; SD allows a 35.2 1st down%
        Indy allowed 33 pass plays of 20 or more yards; SD allowed 37

        Also, luckily, records reset in the playoffs. The 8-8 and 12-4 are now irrelevant.
        Don't over analyze.

        Vegas Dave is right on. Indy wins this game.
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        • BadBeatBodog
          SBR MVP
          • 06-05-08
          • 1006

          #39
          It's not over-analyzing it's looking at stats that actually tell the story...I really am astonished that people still use YPG stats when capping... I'm trying to steer you guys away from stats that are going to MISLEAD and LIE to you. Never in this thread have I even said who I'm on in this game, I was simply trying to correct an extremely common misconception about this game.
          "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

          "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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          • slacker00
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-06-05
            • 12262

            #40
            Originally posted by VegasDave
            But if you want to ignore all that, then by all means, its the best bet of the year
            Hi VegasDave,

            I enjoy your opinions and I definitely respect your opinions over this NFL season. Stats don't lie and you've certainly provided some compelling stats.

            Here's a stat that might be a fun reminder: the 2006 Colts were ranked 32nd in the league for rushing defense in the regular season but they went on to win the Super Bowl. I'm a Colts fan, so I remember these little stats.

            My point is that the playoffs is a different animal than the regular season. You can throw out a lot of the regular season stats. 12-4 versus 8-8 is totally meaningless now. Both teams are 0-0. Sure, the Chargers flopped around a little bit early in the regular season, but so did Indy at the very beginning. Now the Chargers are riding a 4 game win streak and Indy is riding a 9 game streak. Seriously, this should be one hell of a game. But the Chargers remind me of a wounded animal, they'll come out fighting. Not to mention, they still have the team that was a top favorite to go far in the playoffs this year. Finally, the Chargers are at home in a playoff game, which might be the energy they need to carry the momentum from the Denver game.
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            • BadBeatBodog
              SBR MVP
              • 06-05-08
              • 1006

              #41
              Slacker stats don't lie but the people who use them do. Ignore YPG. It's useless. Context is most important when it comes to stats and YPG offers absolutely zero context.
              "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

              "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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              • slacker00
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-06-05
                • 12262

                #42
                Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                Slacker stats don't lie but the people who use them do. Ignore YPG. It's useless. Context is most important when it comes to stats and YPG offers absolutely zero context.
                I agree that stats can be skewed to show only what one wants people to see. I don't think VegasDave is trying to lie, he's just trying to make a case for his pick. But, yes, definitely take ALL stats with a grain of salt. Maybe I'm too used to seeing stats thrown around on here and mostly ignoring them.

                For the record, I'm not playing this game, so I hope my opinion comes across as unbiased. I concede that my bias as a Colts fan is impossible to ignore. Bottom line for this game is that if one thinks Marvin, Bob Sanders, Dwight Freeney, Dallas Clark, etc are all 100% healthy, then go with the Colts, but those are some big "ifs". Remember last year when Dungy was declaring Marvin as healthy and Marvin played like he had a ruptured spleen, sitting on the sideline for most of the game. I'm just saying. This game is going to be a bitch from my perspective as a Colts fan. We've NEVER handled the Chargers easily.

                If you can tease the Chargers to +7, that might be the smartest angle I see on this game. I see this game as back & forth with the last team to score winning the game.
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                • unde0087
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                  • 03-27-08
                  • 28969

                  #43
                  First off, Chargers won there last 4 games, but if you look at who they beat:

                  Oakland (one of the worst teams in football)
                  KC (another one of the worst teams in football)
                  Tampa Bay (who totally self destructed the final games)
                  Denver (a total pretender)

                  they beat 3 teams out of the second worst conference in football and you say they are on fire?

                  San Diego 2 best players Tomlinson and Gates both injured and even if they play won't be even close to 100%. San Diego's defense isn't all of a sudden good, they played a bunch of teams that have no offense so it made them look good.

                  Indy hasn't lost since Oct 27 and if anyone is on fire it is Payton Manning. The guy is tearing it up throwing a boat load of touchdowns with only a couple picks. I really dont see there being a chance for Chargers to win this game. I can't even believe they get a home game with how pathetic that division is. 8-8, what a joke!
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                  • unde0087
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                    • 03-27-08
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                    #44
                    What the NFL should have done is match Chargers vs Cardinals and call it the toilet bowl, I am almost positive Charmin would be more than happy to sponsor the game. Two teams that have no business even being in the playoffs to begin with. If they were in any other division, both teams would have been eliminated from playoff contension about 4 weeks ago.
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                    • daggerkobe
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-25-08
                      • 10744

                      #45
                      Chargers 0-5 vs playoff teams.
                      LT & Gates gametime decisions.

                      Take the Dolts to the max. Payback for last season.
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                      • madmaxx
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-14-07
                        • 3289

                        #46
                        fvckin raining here ... it rains 4 days a year and always on the day of a playoff game....
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                        • madmaxx
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-14-07
                          • 3289

                          #47
                          Michael Bennett 7 rushes 88 yards 1 TD today
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                          • pimike
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                            • 03-23-08
                            • 37140

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Shortstop
                            Weather report? Should we expect any wind or rain?
                            no and yes
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                            • fiveteamer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-08
                              • 10805

                              #49
                              Do not want to bet against Peyton.
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                              • pimike
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                                • 03-23-08
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                                #50
                                I promise if Chargers lose I will not bet another game until Sunday
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82895

                                  #51
                                  Chargers roll today. Peyton Manning will choke as usual. Philip Rivers will have a career day.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #52
                                    The more I look at this the more Indy is a lock, early in the week I was on SD but now heavy on Indy.
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                                    • pimike
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                                      • 03-23-08
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                                      #53
                                      Thanks for your inputs, but this thread was made for you to cash money not throw money away.


                                      I gave detailed info on Why Chargers win. I tried to help guys, but its your money.


                                      I didn't spend all this time to tell me I'm wrong.


                                      GL all who FADE
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                                      • losturmarbles
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-01-08
                                        • 4604

                                        #54
                                        ok mike

                                        jump in!
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                                        • pimike
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                                          • 03-23-08
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                                          #55
                                          Sorry but I don't get it?
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                                          • losturmarbles
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-01-08
                                            • 4604

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by pimike
                                            Sorry but I don't get it?
                                            dont worry after tonights game you will
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                                            • pimike
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                                              • 03-23-08
                                              • 37140

                                              #57
                                              WOW

                                              Just got back from the game. Talk about exciting, damn that is the best playoff game I have ever went too.



                                              I am so jazzed, not sure I will be able to sleep tonight.



                                              Congrats on those who took the SUPER CHARGERS
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                                              • The Seer
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-29-07
                                                • 10641

                                                #58
                                                congrats guy
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                                                • pimike
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                                                  • 03-23-08
                                                  • 37140

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by The Seer
                                                  congrats guy
                                                  Seer THANKS, nothing better than having money on a playoff game, and being at that game with OT

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                                                  • The Seer
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-29-07
                                                    • 10641

                                                    #60
                                                    I ended up taking the chargers too when I saw pinny had Colts at 1.5 and everyone else had SD at 2.5 or 3. It told me to take the Chargers which is cool because I had Indy as the last team in a 3 team 10 pt teaser and I hit both.
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                                                    • pimike
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                                                      • 03-23-08
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by The Seer
                                                      I ended up taking the chargers too when I saw pinny had Colts at 1.5 and everyone else had SD at 2.5 or 3. It told me to take the Chargers which is cool because I had Indy as the last team in a 3 team 10 pt teaser and I hit both.
                                                      Now I fell great that you did that NICE Fen HIT there.


                                                      Chargers controlled the game special Teams were on fire.

                                                      The stadium was electric Congrats on your winingS
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                                                      • pimike
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                                                        • 03-23-08
                                                        • 37140

                                                        #62
                                                        Sorry for the BUMP just still excited from todays game
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