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  • pimike
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    • 03-23-08
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    #1
    CHARGERS are A STRONG Play Saturday
    Ok I love the Chargers tomorrow because the way they have played down the stretch they are on a run at the right time, yes colts have won nine in a row, but they are due for a fall.

    four straight wins down the stretch during which San Diego outscored its opponents, 149-73. That is two to one, this is major and this was not against easy teams, they went into Tampa and won handly flying across the cost.

    Yes COLTS did beat Chargers 23-20 in San Diego. Yet CHARGER could have won and should have won, but they are playing better now then they did that game.

    Also don't forget last years playoff game CHARGERS won.

    Chargers and Colts have played 25 times and the Chargers lead the series, 15-10.

    With Philip Rivers under center for the Chargers and Peyton Manning for the Colts. Rivers finished the regular season as the NFL’s top-rated passer with a 105.5 rating, which was also a team record. Rivers set another team record and tied for the NFL lead with 34 touchdown passes, while throwing for 4,009 yards. Manning was the NFL’s fifth-highest rated passer (95.0), throwing for 4,002 yards with 27 TDs.

    What to look for

    The Chargers are looking for win No. 10 in their playoff history. .

    This is the Chargers’ sixth night game at home this season. The Bolts are 4-1 at home this season under the lights and are averaging 36.8 points a game. This includes their most recent nighttime outing, a season-ending 52-21 pasting of the Denver Broncos. San Diego’s other nighttime victories include a 48-29 win over the New York Jets, a 30-10 decision over New England and a 34-7 win over Oakland.

    The Chargers are 2-1 against the Colts in nationally-televised night games. The victories include a 31-0 win on Monday Night Football in 1992 and a 23-21 win on Sunday Night Football in 2007.

    The Chargers come into the playoffs riding a four-game win streak. Three times in the last five years (since 2004), the Chargers have had a win streak of at least eight games. It would take four more wins, including one Saturday against Indianapolis to win the Super Bowl.


    Darren Sproles comes into the playoffs on a roll he racked up his second-career 100-yard rushing game with 115 yards and a touchdown. He also scored on a 13-yard reception. Always dangerous, whether handling the ball on offense or special teams, Sproles has had tremendous success against Indianapolis, including a 56-yard touchdown catch in the Divisional Playoffs and a two-touchdown game during the 2007 regular-season, scoring on a 45-yard punt return and an 89-yard kickoff return. Sproles totaled 2,297 all-purpose yards and scored seven touchdowns in 2008, including 330-1 as a rusher, 342-5 as a receiver, 249 as a punt returner and 1,376-1 on kickoff returns.

    What to look for – defense

    Antonio Cromartie has four of his 14 career interceptions, including playoffs, against Indianapolis’ Peyton Manning. Cromartie had a team-record-tying three-interception performance against the Colts in an NBC Sunday Night Game in San Diego in 2007. In the Divisional Playoff Game, Cromartie forced a fumble against Marvin Harrison early in the game that led to a possible 10 or 14-point swing. Up 7-0, the Colts were driving for a potential score when Cromartie forced the fumble. San Diego recovered and drove for a touchdown to make the score 7-7. In that same game late in the first half, Cromartie also had an interception and apparent 89-yard TD return. While the runback was called back by a holding penalty, the interception stood.

    Fellow cornerback Quentin Jammer had his second interception this season against Indianapolis on Nov. 23.

    Defensive tackle Jamal Williams has saved some of his best games for the Colts. In the ’07 regular-season meeting, Williams tallied a season-high nine tackles, including one for loss. In this year’s regular-season tilt, Williams again tacked on a season-high with seven stops, including one for no gain, one for a loss and a five-yard sack. Williams had a career-high 10 TFLs in 2008.

    With Williams anchoring San Diego’s run defense, the Colts have rushed for just 75, 44 and 91 in the last three meetings with the Chargers. Including Indianapolis, the Chargers held seven of their 16 opponents under 100 yards rushing this season.

    What to look for – special teams

    Mike Scifres, who averaged a team-record 40.9 net yards per punt this season, has been a great weapon for the Chargers in games against Indianapolis. In last year’s regular-season meeting, three of Scifres’ five punts landed inside the 20 and he posted a higher net average (46.0) than gross (45.0), as Indianapolis had -5 yards in returns. In the playoffs, his 66-yard bomb late in the game helped seal the win. And earlier this year, he was called upon only three times, landing one inside the 20 and allowing only six total yards in returns.

    So I am banking and praying for the CHARGERS tomorrow.



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  • VegasDave
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    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #2
    I just don't see it at all, but good luck Mike
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    • The Seer
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      • 10-29-07
      • 10641

      #3
      road team favored for a reason
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      • pimike
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 03-23-08
        • 37140

        #4
        Originally posted by VegasDave
        I just don't see it at all, but good luck Mike
        Dave they will win this game, they are on a roll, RIVERS is the hottest QB in the playoffs.
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        • gm2022
          SBR MVP
          • 02-28-08
          • 4128

          #5
          Just did my pool at work, and we also do a thing where we pick 1 team out of a hat for 20$ each and if your team wins the big dance u win da money. I got da Colts so I have to go against you Mike. But GL!
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          • pimike
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            • 03-23-08
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            #6
            Originally posted by The Seer
            road team favored for a reason
            Home dog is like 9-2 in the plyoffs
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            • pimike
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 03-23-08
              • 37140

              #7
              Originally posted by gm2022
              Just did my pool at work, and we also do a thing where we pick 1 team out of a hat for 20$ each and if your team wins the big dance u win da money. I got da Colts so I have to go against you Mike. But GL!
              GM how much is the pool worth 20 or what?
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              • VegasDave
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                • 01-03-07
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                #8
                Originally posted by pimike
                Dave they will win this game, they are on a roll, RIVERS is the hottest QB in the playoffs.
                Your roll of 4 games is trumped by the Colts roll of 9 games.

                Your 7th ranked passing attack VS. The Colts 5th ranked passing defense, compared to The Colts 5th ranked passing offense VS. The Chargers 31ST RANKED PASSING DEFENSE.

                You don't get to the quarterback nearly enough.

                The Chargers are 8 - 8...

                Two against the Raiders
                Two against the Chiefs (both by 1 point)
                One against the Patriots (before Cassel came into his own)
                One against the Jets (who clearly can't play on the West coast, also losing to Oak, SF, and Sea on this coast)
                One against a reeling Tampa Bay team (off of 3 straight division games)
                One against a choke-job Denver team

                Please forgive me that I'm not blown away by this team.

                They've lost the close games all year (save the Chiefs), while the Colts have won the close games all year.

                Tony Dungy > Norv Turner

                Peyton Manning VS 31st passing defense > Philip Rivers VS. 5th best passing defense

                ---

                But if you want to ignore all that, then by all means, its the best bet of the year
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                • hoopster42
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                  • 02-12-08
                  • 6099

                  #9
                  dave, tomlinson is running better now that the turf toe has healed and he was still hobbling when the colts beat them by 3 in late nov. the chargers played like crap that game yet the colts needed a 51 yd fg at the end of regulation to win. also, the fact that indy is a dome, turf team coming outdoors on grass in the night time and raucous san diego environment is much more compelling than the stats youre throwing out. there are situational angles and intangibles that trump those types of stats and the fact this game is in san diego is the biggest one.
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                  • VegasDave
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                    • 01-03-07
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hoopster42
                    dave, tomlinson is running better now that the turf toe has healed and he was still hobbling when the colts beat them by 3 in late nov.
                    You don't seem to be bothered by the fact that he is questionable with a groin injury.

                    Granted, of course he'll play, but if you are counting on him being 100%, I think you are mistaken.

                    I think most Chargers backers are expecting this to be the same team from years past, with a dominant defense and running game. I think you'll be disappointed.

                    But I've been wrong plenty of times before.
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                    • diogee
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                      • 01-11-08
                      • 19477

                      #11
                      I personally think that the over is the best play in this one. Side can go either way imo...SD seems to be meshing at the right time but have a few players that have been held out of practice and Indy has been on fire. Don't think I can bring myself to go against Manning in this one after the run they have been on.
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                      • gm2022
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-28-08
                        • 4128

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pimike
                        GM how much is the pool worth 20 or what?
                        we each(12 of us) throw in 50 bucks,

                        we each pick one team out of a hat and winner takes home 550
                        superbowl runner up gets there money back! Im just glad I didnt get Minn or Arz!
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                        • frostno98
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                          • 09-11-07
                          • 9769

                          #13
                          The Chargers are a fraudulent team, don't be deceived by their 4 game winning streak. They haven't beat anybody!.

                          They beat the Raiders, who's the hell is the raiders.

                          They beat the 2 win Chiefs, took a miracle onside kick recovery just to have that happen.

                          They beat the Buccaneers in Tampa bay, so did the 4-11 raiders so this buc's team wasn't as good as they appeared to be. The needed to beat the raiders to make the playoffs

                          They beat a Broncos that have pretty much everybody on the infrimary list.

                          When you look at their 4 game winning who have they beaten. Nobody! While their 52-21 dismantle of the Broncos looks impressive, that is the biggest deception of all. The Broncos have absolutely no playmaker on defense in that game, Champ who was probably the Broncos best D was only 80% at most.

                          The Colts have a Defense and a Great QB. Dwight Freeney and Bob Sanders will be impactful on this game. If the broncos were just good enough to stop the Charger once or twice when the game was still competitive, they would still had shot at winning. Payton Manning won't have this problem. And his Defense is will get stops for him, that's why the Colts will beat this fraudelent Chargers team, with a really bad Defense.
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                          • gm2022
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-28-08
                            • 4128

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VegasDave
                            Peyton Manning VS 31st passing defense > Philip Rivers VS. 5th best passing defense
                            Anyone who wants to bet the Chargers tommorrow should read this one line before clicking there mouse on the submit button
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                            • hanco21
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-19-06
                              • 3414

                              #15
                              Most of the Chargers losses came under Ted Cottrell as defensive Coordinator. Ron Rivera has improved this defensive unit considerably and they are getting better every week. Too bad we didn't have Mr. Merriman. I have a future at 75-1 when the Chargers 5-8.

                              Thanks Donkeys
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                              • BadBeatBodog
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                                • 06-05-08
                                • 1006

                                #16
                                Everyone, please pleASE PLEASE stop looking at yards per game. From here on out yards per game doesn't exist. There is no such thing. You will not get anywhere in sports betting (or sports in general) if you think that stat should be used.
                                "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                • hanco21
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-19-06
                                  • 3414

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by frostno98
                                  The Chargers are a fraudulent team, don't be deceived by their 4 game winning streak. They haven't beat anybody!.

                                  They beat the Raiders, who's the hell is the raiders.

                                  They beat the 2 win Chiefs, took a miracle onside kick recovery just to have that happen.

                                  They beat the Buccaneers in Tampa bay, so did the 4-11 raiders so this buc's team wasn't as good as they appeared to be. The needed to beat the raiders to make the playoffs

                                  They beat a Broncos that have pretty much everybody on the infrimary list.

                                  When you look at their 4 game winning who have they beaten. Nobody! While their 52-21 dismantle of the Broncos looks impressive, that is the biggest deception of all. The Broncos have absolutely no playmaker on defense in that game, Champ who was probably the Broncos best D was only 80% at most.

                                  The Colts have a Defense and a Great QB. Dwight Freeney and Bob Sanders will be impactful on this game. If the broncos were just good enough to stop the Charger once or twice when the game was still competitive, they would still had shot at winning. Payton Manning won't have this problem. And his Defense is will get stops for him, that's why the Colts will beat this fraudelent Chargers team, with a really bad Defense.
                                  Fraudulent team, don't be a hater. The Donkeys flat out choked and Cutler is no Pro-bowler.
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                                  • BadBeatBodog
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                                    • 06-05-08
                                    • 1006

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Seer
                                    road team favored for a reason
                                    Solid logic. Alabama favored by 10 for a reason. Pats favored by so much in SB for a reason. Etc.....
                                    "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                    "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                    • VegasDave
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                                      • 01-03-07
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by gm2022
                                      Anyone who wants to bet the Chargers tommorrow should read this one line before clicking there mouse on the submit button
                                      I'm stunned how many people are just throwing this out.

                                      The Chargers being 25th overall averaging 349.9 yards per game against (Compared to Indy's 310.9 yards per game) and 31st overall averaging 247.4 in passing yards against (Compared to Indy's 188.1) doesn't seem to be bothering people at all.

                                      Not to mention San Diego's rushing game is ranked 20th with 107.9 yards per game, their first year out of the top 10 in a LONG time. Does everyone really think that Ladanian Tomlinson, injured groin and all, is going to magically re-emerge? Sproles is solid, don't get me wrong... but again, I'm just not seeing it.
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                                      • VegasDave
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                                        • 01-03-07
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                                        Everyone, please pleASE PLEASE stop looking at yards per game. From here on out yards per game doesn't exist. There is no such thing. You will not get anywhere in sports betting (or sports in general) if you think that stat should be used.
                                        Should we handicap the game on rainbows and butterflies instead?
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                                        • BadBeatBodog
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                                          • 06-05-08
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                                          #21
                                          How about not use retarded stats that have extremely low correlation with any team success?
                                          "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                          "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                          • hanco21
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-19-06
                                            • 3414

                                            #22
                                            Everyone is on Indy, but the line is going SD way. Even with LT and Gates hurt they will play.

                                            Sharp money is on the Chargers.

                                            Bolts will suprise people tomorrow.
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                                            • frostno98
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                                              • 09-11-07
                                              • 9769

                                              #23
                                              Chargers is a fraud. I ain't no hater, it just reality. You don't go 8-8 for reason. You have to be mentally delusional if you really think an 8-8 Chargers team is going to beat a Colts team lead a by the 2008 NFL MVP. The Colts is lead by a guy that has already won the big game, while you sorry Chargers fvcks are known for choking. Just ask the 2006 NFL MVP LT, who cry like a baby when Tom Brady and Co. came in and stun you guys after clinching home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Yeah you Chargers fans remember that really well, because they made fun of Shawn Merriman pathetic lighting Bolt dance.
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                                              • BadBeatBodog
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                                                #24
                                                Wait wait wait let me guess: the MLB MVP should be given out based on HR, R, AVG, and RBI right? NFL MVP given out based on QB rating and passing ypg? Cy Young based on Wins?
                                                "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                • gm2022
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-28-08
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                                                  Everyone, please pleASE PLEASE stop looking at yards per game. From here on out yards per game doesn't exist. There is no such thing. You will not get anywhere in sports betting (or sports in general) if you think that stat should be used.
                                                  it is relivant though.

                                                  One teams throws for alot of yards and one gives up a lot over a 16 game spand, I think that has some relevance to the game being played.
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                                                  • VegasDave
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                                                    • 01-03-07
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                                                    How about not use retarded stats that have extremely low correlation with any team success?
                                                    Please share with us the smart stats that have extremely high correlation to team success?
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                                                    • BadBeatBodog
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                                                      • 06-05-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by frostno98
                                                      Chargers is a fraud. I ain't no hater, it just reality. You don't go 8-8 for reason. You have to be mentally delusional if you really think an 8-8 Chargers team is going to beat a Colts team lead a by the 2008 NFL MVP. The Colts is lead by a guy that has already won the big game, while you sorry Chargers fvcks are known for choking. Just ask the 2006 NFL MVP LT, who cry like a baby when Tom Brady and Co. came in and stun you guys after clinching home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Yeah you Chargers fans remember that really well, because they made fun of Shawn Merriman pathetic lighting Bolt dance.
                                                      How about you think about the beatdown Rivers and co. gave your Donks and look at your avatar for a while?
                                                      "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                      "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                      • BadBeatBodog
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                                                        #28
                                                        Don't you guys care about context though? Don't you think it's important to know the circumstances the yards were gained under? Who was the opponent? Down and distance? Time of game and situation? There are great advanced stats out there.

                                                        As for conventional stats, if you are going to use them, concentrate on ones that offer a little context. Focus on yards per play.
                                                        "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                        "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                        • VegasDave
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                                                          #29
                                                          If you believe the Chargers are the pick, thats totally fine. I seriously do wish you good luck.

                                                          But calling stats retarded just because they clearly go against the side you like isn't really taking the high road.
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                                                          • BadBeatBodog
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                                                            • 06-05-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            All yards are not created equal. Here is exactly the reason why those passing YPG stats people are throwing around are bogus. In reality the Chargers' pass defense is not far behind the Colts'.

                                                            Indy allows a 68.4% comp. against; SD 67.9% against
                                                            Indy allows 6.7 yds/att; SD 6.8 yds/att
                                                            Indy allows a 34.3 1st down%; SD allows a 35.2 1st down%
                                                            Indy allowed 33 pass plays of 20 or more yards; SD allowed 37

                                                            The big difference comes from a very flawed stat, QB rating against. Indy allowed a 78 QB rating while SD a 90.3. Why the big difference despite similar numbers in most categories? Well that's why the stat is flawed; teams chose to run in the red zone versus Indy while they passed versus SD so SD ended up giving up a lot more TDs through the air. SD's red zone pass defense has actually been better than its run defense in the same area.
                                                            "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                            "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                            • BadBeatBodog
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                                                              • 06-05-08
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by VegasDave
                                                              If you believe the Chargers are the pick, thats totally fine. I seriously do wish you good luck.

                                                              But calling stats retarded just because they clearly go against the side you like isn't really taking the high road.
                                                              Do you really think that's what I'm doing? I'm actually trying to help you and you are ignoring it. Let me try again.

                                                              Don't you guys care about context though? Don't you think it's important to know the circumstances the yards were gained under? Who was the opponent? Down and distance? Time of game and situation?
                                                              "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                              "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                              • VegasDave
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                                                                • 01-03-07
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                                                                #32
                                                                I apologize for misinterpreting.

                                                                Good luck tomorrow!
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                                                                • frostno98
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Memo to Charger fans, your team is 8-8 which=to not very good. Your not going to beat a 12-4 Colts team on a 9 games winning streak. With an MVP QB that is known to dissect every teams secondary, especially against a 31st ranked Charger's passed Defense.
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                                                                  • Shortstop
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Weather report? Should we expect any wind or rain?
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                                                                    • BadBeatBodog
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      No response related to the stats I supplied VD? I thought this forum was about discussion, or is it only to post your play and then close your mind to anything remotely against it?
                                                                      "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                                      "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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