Did anyone just see GWB get shoes thrown at him??

[ryanXL977]

seriously people
if some dumbass invaded our country and ****ed it up, wouldnt you throw a shoe at him, or more? you guys think our government, or this administration, has the right to start any war they like without the invaded country having any say about it? nice.

[EBSB52]

seriously people
if some dumbass invaded our country and ****ed it up, wouldnt you throw a shoe at him, or more? you guys think our government, or this administration, has the right to start any war they like without the invaded country having any say about it? nice.

What? America is always right

[Boner_18]

seriously people
if some dumbass invaded our country and ****ed it up, wouldnt you throw a shoe at him, or more? you guys think our government, or this administration, has the right to start any war they like without the invaded country having any say about it? nice.

Women get to vote there now. I think that is pretty cool.

[curious]

Just having fun.... relax. I'm sure 99.9% of the people in the south are aware that an airport is a port. Just the .1% that call their dad both dad and uncle are not aware.

Anytime you want to back up your shit talking feel free to drop by. Punk ass mother ****er.

I just love you internet jackasses who sit in your mother's basement and talk shit to people when you don't know the first thing about what the **** you are talking about.

Thank god for the ignore feature.

[curious]

seriously people
if some dumbass invaded our country and ****ed it up, wouldnt you throw a shoe at him, or more? you guys think our government, or this administration, has the right to start any war they like without the invaded country having any say about it? nice.

The Iraqis should have thought about that before they started the first gulf war. The first gulf war was not ended with a peace treaty, but with a truce. Iraq violated the terms of the truce. If they didn't want to be occupied then they should not have started a war they could not win and then when they lost they should have kept to the terms of the truce.

[pavyracer]

Curious is responsible for obliterating a 5,000 strong Iraqi armored battalion during first Gulf War.

[EBSB52]

Anytime you want to back up your shit talking feel free to drop by. Punk ass mother ****er.

I just love you internet jackasses who sit in your mother's basement and talk shit to people when you don't know the first thing about what the **** you are talking about.

Thank god for the ignore feature.

See, loser, I back up my assertions via supporting evidence, data, etc. I've backed everything up, you have not and when inbreds like you get slammed you get frustrated and want to fight the world, then say I don't know what I'm talking about. Epic

[EBSB52]

Women get to vote there now. I think that is pretty cool.

Well let's throw another 800B and 4k plus lives around here and there to ensure all the women of the world vote. Should only take 100 years, 50 trillion dollars and a million lives, but at least women will be able to vote everywhere in the world.

From a country that executed people for crimes as juveniles just 2 years ago, I think we need to wash our windows first.

[EBSB52]

The Iraqis should have thought about that before they started the first gulf war. The first gulf war was not ended with a peace treaty, but with a truce. Iraq violated the terms of the truce. If they didn't want to be occupied then they should not have started a war they could not win and then when they lost they should have kept to the terms of the truce.

And the US being imperialistic, we have control of all of the corners of the world. I guess that justifies us to kill as many inncoents as we are in the mood to do.

[EBSB52]

Curious is responsible for obliterating a 5,000 strong Iraqi armored battalion during first Gulf War.

I for one am proud, I'm sure his mommy is too.

[EBSB52]

I'm not a republican shithead.

Port "security" will not keep determined infiltrators out of our country. So, an executive order could have closed the ports and stopped 9/11 from happening if Bush had only just done so in the 7 months prior to the attack. And how would this executive order to "secure" the ports have kept the hijackers who were already in this country from getting in? Your "logic" escapes me here.

Did you not learn to read maps in school, such as the ones that show the thousands of miles of open border between us and Mexico and between us and Canada.

If you want to call me a loser to my face mother ****er, my address is 701 James St
Hattiesburg, MS
feel free to drop by anytime.

Gawd what a ****ing jackass.

What a tool. For fun I wanted to see what kind of slum this guy lives in, so I Yahoo mapped it and he gave the addy of the local police dept.

http://www.switchboard.com/detail.htm?KW=Police+Departments&LO=Hattiesburg+MS&SD=&PARMAPI=SRC%3Dswbdaff20022%26sessionId%3D6922DD64E33863F635749B4549FDFCAD%26C%3DPolice%2BDepartments%26PS%3D10%26STYPE%3DS%26L%3DHattiesburg%2BMS%26XSL%3Doff%26AL%3D%26LID%3D2074326874%26display%3D1%26map.x%3D212%26map.y%3D125%26level%3D8%26lat%3D031317445%26lng%3D-089286104%26POI1lat%3D031317445%26POI1lng%3D-089286104%26POI1name%3DHattiesburg%2BPolice%2BDepartment%26streetaddress%3D701%2BJames%2BStreet%26city%3DHattiesburg%26state%3DMS%26zip%3D39401%26SWB%3D1

So either this guy is a total loser that has no identity and wants to appear tough and act as though he's brave enough to post his home addy, or he's a rogue cop posting crap on the net and stirring sh!t, something his superiors would disagree with, if indeed he is a cop. If you are a cop you are in violation of your dept's rules by stirring sh!t and then using your postion to intimidate. If you're average loser joe trying to post an addy for cred, well, you just look like a bigger loser.

[ryanXL977]

The Iraqis should have thought about that before they started the first gulf war. The first gulf war was not ended with a peace treaty, but with a truce. Iraq violated the terms of the truce. If they didn't want to be occupied then they should not have started a war they could not win and then when they lost they should have kept to the terms of the truce.

so a war in 1991 has what to do with the next one again? seriously. we should invade germany now bc of what they did in 1941 damnit.
the iraqis had little to do with anything. i think our guarantees of protection for kuwaiti oil fields did.
you are out of your league here. i am no fan of clinton or bush, but to say "the iraqis should have thought about that before they started the first gulf war..." is ignorant. i dont think they started the first gulf war my man, check your notes

[andywend]

Ryan, have you actually posted 16,555 messages since you joined 10 months ago? That works out to an average of 55 posts each and every day.

As far as EBSB52 is concerned, he is an ABSOLUTE JACKASS in every sense of the word.

[pavyracer]

I'm not a republican shithead.

Port "security" will not keep determined infiltrators out of our country. So, an executive order could have closed the ports and stopped 9/11 from happening if Bush had only just done so in the 7 months prior to the attack. And how would this executive order to "secure" the ports have kept the hijackers who were already in this country from getting in? Your "logic" escapes me here.

Did you not learn to read maps in school, such as the ones that show the thousands of miles of open border between us and Mexico and between us and Canada.

If you want to call me a loser to my face mother ****er, my address is 701 James St
Hattiesburg, MS
feel free to drop by anytime.

Gawd what a ****ing jackass.

Last time this douchebag invited me to kick his ass he gave me as address Boston's police department's address. The funny thing is that even with a fake address I managed to track him down and beat his ass and donated his wheelchair to a local VE hospital and now he crawls like a serpent to move around.

[EBSB52]

Ryan, have you actually posted 16,555 messages since you joined 10 months ago? That works out to an average of 55 posts each and every day.

As far as EBSB52 is concerned, he is an ABSOLUTE JACKASS in every sense of the word.

Thanks for spending your posts adding absolutely zero to the subject matter. As usual, the neo-con demographic illustrates why America is sick of you as demonstrated on Nov 7. Have a nice day staying pissed and while we rejoice the departure of Larry Craig, Bush and the whole neo-con electorate.

Why not show or pretend you have a clue and actually constructively address issues? Oh, you are unable? We kinda realized that

[EBSB52]

Last time this douchebag invited me to kick his ass he gave me as address Boston's police department's address. The funny thing is that even with a fake address I managed to track him down and beat his ass and donated his wheelchair to a local VE hospital and now he crawls like a seprent to move around.

LOL

[curious]

so a war in 1991 has what to do with the next one again? seriously. we should invade germany now bc of what they did in 1941 damnit.
the iraqis had little to do with anything. i think our guarantees of protection for kuwaiti oil fields did.
you are out of your league here. i am no fan of clinton or bush, but to say "the iraqis should have thought about that before they started the first gulf war..." is ignorant. i dont think they started the first gulf war my man, check your notes

Conquering Kuwait and threatening to conquer the other Gulf states (Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, et al), and threatening to conquer Saudi Arabia did not start the first gulf war?

Before you post total nonsense please at least try to familiarize yourself with the facts. Here are the facts:
1. Iraq conquered Kuwait and threatened to conquer all the other oil producing countries on the Arabian peninsula.
2. The United Nations went to war with Iraq to liberate Kuwait and end the threat to the other Arabian peninsula countries.
3. The war ended in a cease fire, not a treaty.
4. Sadaam violated the terms of the cease fire and the war was started back up again to remove Sadaam.

The time span between the signing of the truce and the violations of the terms of the truce are irrelevant.

[ryanXL977]

he didnt violate the truce. he didnt invade, was non aggressive, and posessed no weapons
the war was made up, this isnt really debated any longer

[curious]

he didnt violate the truce. he didnt invade, was non aggressive, and posessed no weapons
the war was made up, this isnt really debated any longer

Sadaam did not invade Kuwait in 1991? Please put the crack pipe down.
Iraq didn't violate the terms of the truce which ended the '91 war? Then the UN passed countless resolutions saying that Iraq was in violation of the truce why? For fun?

[ryanXL977]

i am talking about 2001, not 1991
im not debating the justifications for 1991, thats long over with. simply put, we went in to protect oil pipelines, ask any vet who was there

i am saying 1991 had nothing to do with 2001. those old reasons are done, finished, fini, as the dagos say

[EBSB52]

Sadaam did not invade Kuwait in 1991? Please put the crack pipe down.
Iraq didn't violate the terms of the truce which ended the '91 war? Then the UN passed countless resolutions saying that Iraq was in violation of the truce why? For fun?

Idiot, read. Ryan isn't negating the Gulf War need or justification, he's saying there's no essesntial need connection between the Gulf War and the Iraq War.

Here's one account of the 1991 cease fire agreement: http://www.truthaboutiraq.org/index....f_The_Iraq_War

The article states, "Security Council Resolution 1441 gave Saddam Hussein a final chance to comply with all previous UNSC resolutions, which he failed to do."

But further investigation shows the UN didn't approve of the US to invade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Secu...lution_on_Iraq

While some politicians have argued that the resolution could authorize war under certain circumstances, the representatives in the meeting were clear that this was not the case.

The resolution gave the UN reason to show more attention, not to invade. Bush took that as a reason to invade. He has since shown regret for the intelligence that was either faulty or cherrypicked and fed to congress by Bush. Either way it was errant to go into Iraq in 2003, he realizes this and the world has known this since the invasion.

Bush wanted to be a war president to satisfy his own ego as well as avenge Saddam for threatening his dad, this sliver of nothing gave him justification, pseudo justification as it turns out and as the world views it.

The Iraq War was and is a mistake and after we leave the US-appointed puppet government will have a hell of a time doing what Saddam was able to do; quell sectarian violence.

Furthermore, Bush's reason given was, "to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

The only claimed violations in that statement are WMD's and active terrorism, which were never proven, hencce there were no vilations to the 1991 cease fire agreement making the 2003 invasion illegal.

[therber2]

Right...denial, a common trait amongst Republicans these days, as well as Obama basjing........Just having fun.... relax. I'm sure 99.9% of the people in the south are aware that an airport is a port. Just the .1% that call their dad both dad and uncle are not aware.

You are the type of person who is tearing down the country. I don't know what you are (I would assume you call yourself democrat). I have faith and respect for both parties; you however, have an extremely distorted sense of reality. I am a traditional republican (now more commonly referred to as libertarian or moderate if you want to put a term on my party of choice...). I am an American. I believe in America, and I think the last thing it needs is someone like you slandering our nation's leader. I am sure you will do it with Obama as well (which is why I say I pity him, or any other future leader of this once great nation).

I would be happy to give you my address as well, as an American it is my duty. I am from the "union" states as you might like to refer to them. Not the confederate states so you probably won't have to go to your nearest PORT. We are most likely neighbors. Drop me a line, I will throw my shoe in your face and stick my foot up your ass.

You can come here, recite your lines and bullshit, and I will simply proceed to knock you out.

Now, how about some proactive debate, and support for the leaders we have. We need to get the nation back in order and flush out maniacs like this guy that will just continue to tear it down.

[reno cool]

Running around committing atrocities around the world doesn't make a country great. Just because you were told something repeatedly doesn't make it true.
However, standing up to and struggling against such action is indeed worthy of respect.

[EBSB52]

You are the type of person who is tearing down the country. I don't know what you are (I would assume you call yourself democrat). I have faith and respect for both parties; you however, have an extremely distorted sense of reality. I am a traditional republican (now more commonly referred to as libertarian or moderate if you want to put a term on my party of choice...). I am an American. I believe in America, and I think the last thing it needs is someone like you slandering our nation's leader. I am sure you will do it with Obama as well (which is why I say I pity him, or any other future leader of this once great nation).

I would be happy to give you my address as well, as an American it is my duty. I am from the "union" states as you might like to refer to them. Not the confederate states so you probably won't have to go to your nearest PORT. We are most likely neighbors. Drop me a line, I will throw my shoe in your face and stick my foot up your ass.

You can come here, recite your lines and bullshit, and I will simply proceed to knock you out.

Now, how about some proactive debate, and support for the leaders we have. We need to get the nation back in order and flush out maniacs like this guy that will just continue to tear it down.

You are the type of person who is tearing down the country.

How, why, because???? Can you neo-con spew anything besides rhetoric? Give a detailed reason why, or do you fear eating it later on?

I don't know what you are (I would assume you call yourself democrat).

I do now, but I voted for Dole and Perot, so I’m not an ideologue like you.

I have faith and respect for both parties; you however, have an extremely distorted sense of reality.

How, why, because???? Can you neo-con spew anything besides rhetoric? Give a detailed reason why, or do you fear eating it later on?

I am a traditional republican (now more commonly referred to as libertarian or moderate if you want to put a term on my party of choice...).

At least you admit what most Libertarians don’t; they are disgruntled Republicans. Libertarians are nuttier than Republicans, as at least the Repub doctrine has a plan, the Libertarians one just says cut taxes, kill services and let the fireworks begin. If we went with the Libertarian platform the movie Madmax would become a reality.

I am an American. I believe in America, and I think the last thing it needs is someone like you slandering our nation's leader.

So, real American, the crap about peaceful dissent is all BS? Hell, Libertarians are strict Constitutionalists, looks like you just sh!t on your own so-called beliefs. I don’t advocate violent dissent, just peaceful dissent via free speech, voting, etc., apparently you are more of the type to advocate censorship and tyranny.

I am sure you will do it with Obama as well (which is why I say I pity him, or any other future leader of this once great nation).

If he does stupid sh!t I will be glad to point it out, unlike the Repub/Libertarians who cover for the idiocy executed by their leaders.

I would be happy to give you my address as well, as an American it is my duty.

#1, the other idiot that gave his address gave either his work addy, as he is a rogue cop trying to use his position to intimidate, or just another loser like you trying to appear as tough and above board. #2, I don’t want your addy, even if it’s next door. I prefer you address the issues here rather than impress us all with what you don’t know, disguised with some kind of sick bravado.

I am from the "union" states as you might like to refer to them.

No, you refer to theme as such, you are still nutted out over the civil war, not me. Why would I call them union states vs. confederate states? I’m from Seattle originally, we didn’t get stupid over a war that was over almost 100 years before I was born.

Not the confederate states so you probably won't have to go to your nearest PORT.

This must be that same idiot curious that promised to put me on ignore, but reregistered. Do you think others don’t see it? Still stinging over you not being smart enough to understand that an airport is a port?

We are most likely neighbors. Drop me a line, I will throw my shoe in your face and stick my foot up your ass.

I posted a video of me doing a tandem, I’m not a small guy and I’m not afraid of trash like you making threats, but I choose to fight with my fingers since I can do it better than most. If a fight comes to me, hell, I’d be glad to oblige. Next thing, are you stupid or just young (same thing)? Do you realize that communications can be tracked via ISP/IP and many criminals, like you, are caught by linking idiocy they’ve looked up or stated thru their computer? There are ways around it, but unless you throw away your computer every time you make a threat you are primed. What if you get busted for a crime and the detectives seize your laptop, then they bypass the password and discover you make threats via the internet, then they discover your crime has a link to violence etc, etc,… It’s just dumb to make threats via the computer, or at all, but esp the computer as they are memorialized forever.
Here’s an idea, take one of the many assertions I’ve made and try to address it, even if you need help from others, just answer it using ornate words and cogent syntax, maybe you’ll succeed.

You can come here, recite your lines and bullshit, and I will simply proceed to knock you out.

Are you really angry? Do you think that bothers me? You must be stupid or you would understand that that makes me laugh.

Now, how about some proactive debate, …

Are you fvcking joking? You incite violence and ask for debate. You are delusional, someone contact the asylums to see if someone snuck in a cell phone.

…and support for the leaders we have.

Most now are trash, I will not support that. What if your attitude was prevalent during the Boston Tea Party, the Revolutionary War, etc? Do you have any education?

We need to get the nation back in order and flush out maniacs like this guy that will just continue to tear it down

By censoring dissent? You’ve fully shown your colors.

[ryanXL977]

the gop is dead, it doesnt exist
libertarians are stupider than anyone else in the world. we need government. and democrats are simply less willing to make up bullshit wars, but they suck as well.
this is bush's war, its made up, needless, like almost every single war this country fights. you guys spend too much time listening to people talk and spend more time reading books and getting your head out of your own asses.
the best thing about america is we have the unlimited right to say what we think, and yet you buffoons so easily throw around the word traitor when we do.
go read what the founding fathers wrote you parrot hillbillys.

[therber2]

How, why, because???? Can you neo-con spew anything besides rhetoric? Give a detailed reason why, or do you fear eating it later on?

I do now, but I voted for Dole and Perot, so I’m not an ideologue like you.

How, why, because???? Can you neo-con spew anything besides rhetoric? Give a detailed reason why, or do you fear eating it later on?

At least you admit what most Libertarians don’t; they are disgruntled Republicans. Libertarians are nuttier than Republicans, as at least the Repub doctrine has a plan, the Libertarians one just says cut taxes, kill services and let the fireworks begin. If we went with the Libertarian platform the movie Madmax would become a reality.

If he does stupid sh!t I will be glad to point it out, unlike the Repub/Libertarians who cover for the idiocy executed by their leaders. (**I am sure you will, and most thouroughly** thank you for your patriotism!!!!)(insert)

No, you refer to theme as such, you are still nutted out over the civil war, not me. Why would I call them union states vs. confederate states? I’m from Seattle originally, we didn’t get stupid over a war that was over almost 100 years before I was born.

This must be that same idiot curious that promised to put me on ignore, but reregistered. Do you think others don’t see it? Still stinging over you not being smart enough to understand that an airport is a port?

I posted a video of me doing a tandem, I’m not a small guy and I’m not afraid of trash like you making threats, but I choose to fight with my fingers since I can do it better than most. (insert)(good rhetoric!!) If a fight comes to me, hell, I’d be glad to oblige. Next thing, are you stupid or just young (same thing)? (insert) Yeah, I am young, but not stupid (maybe just not as aged and decrepid as you)

Do you realize that communications can be tracked via ISP/IP and many criminals, like you, are caught by linking idiocy they’ve looked up or stated thru their computer? There are ways around it, but unless you throw away your computer every time you make a threat you are primed. What if you get busted for a crime and the detectives seize your laptop, then they bypass the password and discover you make threats via the internet, then they discover your crime has a link to violence etc, etc,… It’s just dumb to make threats via the computer, or at all, but esp the computer as they are memorialized forever." (insert)(As an American, I will stand up for my Constitution, and whoever goes against it. If that is a crime God help us).

"Most now are trash, I will not support that. What if your attitude was prevalent during the Boston Tea Party, the Revolutionary War, etc? Do you have any education?" (I know all about these things, and I think it is a bad comparison, and perhaps a dangerous one on your part.)

By censoring dissent? You’ve fully shown your colors.

I have nothing to hide; also I'm not "curious"... and I'm not going to burn my computer. You must have a criminal mind.

I said nothing about censorship. You assumed that.

Okay to answer your question plain and simple: tremendous shit-talking one's president does a few things to him/her and the country:

1. It makes him unable to perform his job.
2. It makes us look weak to our enemies (not a good thing in a time of war and economic crisis).
3. It makes Americans believe that every single problem in this country is the man's fault.
4. It sets the next president up for failure as well.

Sure some criticism is great; this is America, but come on nothing but shit talk and slander from Americans for years on this guy. Why not just impeach him? You talk about free speech. If polls say he's the worst president ever, and you agree; then impeach him. Write some letters to your congressmen, and vote it in or go throw your shoe at him and do a Boston Tea Party tough guy. I wouldn't say that I feel oppressed as early Americans did during the Revolutionary War so I am not going to take these kind of extreme measures.

What I suggest instead of slander or violence is this:
1. Write letters to those that represent you with your complaints.
2. Try to examine the economy. The deep problems we are having now go way back; before Bush senior. Offer suggestions on how to reverse these problems. Try to enact them yourselves; like OP said you have a voice and a pen.
3. If all else fails, pull out your shoes, and do a Boston Tea Party. Just make sure you burn your computer right away.

Another thing....I am not sure what you mean by NEOCON...spewing rhetoric yet I am an idealogue . Every loose definition I've heard I would say I am one really not one of those um..."neocons". I have never thought of myself as a liberal nor do I agree with most modern conservatives. I have told you I see sense in what everyone says....including you...as much as I hate to admit it, but I don't picks sides. I try to do what I believe is best for the country I live in, and right now that would be trying to explain to you why slander, and shit-talk never gets anyone anywhere. You are digging your own grave.

Again, I have nothing to hide. I would be glad for any authority to examine everything I have said here, and they can go ahead and look through my computer if you feel that you or they must.

Another thing, get out of the house. Most libertarians WILL admit that they are tradional republicans, and fiscal conservatives. I do believe in cutting wasteful services, and I strongly believe in tax-cuts IF we feel this strong need to do "bailouts", tax-cuts would be a great way to do it. I know it sounds repetitive to everyone here, and it is sort of rhetoric, but it is from the heart so what can I do.

Tell me this. Why do you think that a Libertarian is "trash" and a "neo-con"? I haven't heard this one before on CNN or Wikipedia.

As far as "union" and "confeds" that was a reference to how liberal media referred to "red" and "blue" states....a little humor. Also, yes, an airport would be a port you are correct, sir. I am not sure why that came up here...

[ryanXL977]

2000: gore is a sore loser
2001: 911 happened, go shopping,
2002: lets go invade iraq
2003: we have to stay the course!
2004: he got us into iraq, we have to give him a chance to turn it aounrd
2005: hey, things are getting better!
2006: he fired rummy, now it will work itself out
2007: the surge is working!
2008: why do you guys want to blame bush? its done and over with

its hilarious, for 7 years they made excuses and now, witht he facts no longer disputed, we should not discuss it bc its done with

its just insane

[therber2]

its not done with... You are missing my point.
there is a difference between discussion and purely tearing down one man.

[ryanXL977]

i wasnt responding to you
and yes, its done

[therber2]

What is done? anti-western strife? bad economy? what?

[ryanXL977]

the reasons for the war, the lies, the stealing of our treasury and reserves
it wasnt an accident
at least i dont think it was
libertarianism are guys who think rainbows have gold at the end of them, guys who believe in unicorns
its a silly dumb dream

[EBSB52]

its not done with... You are missing my point.
there is a difference between discussion and purely tearing down one man.

Here, I'll tear you down with the rest of the neo-tards that cannot address points: You are a waste of skin, not to mention keystrokes, why can't you neo-tards answer any points/questions? I've posted many, if you had a clue you would just go right to those.

[therber2]

Agreed, yes some of them are batty, but at least mostly diplomatic. I said before I am a moderate liberatarian. All of these parties terms are loose so moderate or multiple even party mix is the only way to go. Unfortunately, it seems democrats have taken over, and third parties will become the new repubs.

What are you?

[ryanXL977]

i am not a party, they are all garbage, everyone of them i think.
they are a problem, people pick sides and cheer for them like its a ****ing football game.

put it this way, id vote for just about naything but a republican. unless its chuck hagel, who is honest. the rest of them are garbage, as are most dems. however, 3 of the last 4 presidents have been gop and they have all been garbage, clinton included.

[therber2]

EBS hahah. don't be so bitter. I've answered you questions. Now, how about you go back and answer mine. What makes me "trash" "neo-con" "neotard" etc. I want the best for the country and its people. I simply pointed out that slander and shit-talk is backwards, detrimental, and a waste of time. Now you are trying to slander me and what I represent as well. Where is the democracy and peaceful debate there?