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  • EBSB52
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    • 10-30-08
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    #36
    Originally posted by pimike
    I did, Bush is pretty quick, he should have had his people shoot the guys Ass, i would have shot his ass.
    I don't get it, he can't eat a pretzel w/o choking, yet he ducks the show like a majician.
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    • EBSB52
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      #37
      Originally posted by daggerkobe
      That Iraqi journalist is an American hero.
      And an Iraqi hero....
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      • crisp
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        • 06-02-08
        • 1377

        #38
        Originally posted by EBSB52
        Is this a joke? Bush, fine president? WHat defines him as a fine pres?
        what doesn't define him as a fine pres?
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        • EBSB52
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          #39
          Originally posted by crisp
          bush should've left saddam alone, they never found any weapons of mass destruction. now iraq has no leader, with saddam they at least had some leadership.
          Yea, when we leave the US puppets will not be able to keep the sectarian religions in check; it will be civil war.
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          • Deuce
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            • 01-12-08
            • 29843

            #40
            Originally posted by daggerkobe
            That Iraqi journalist is an American hero.
            Originally posted by EBSB52
            And an Iraqi hero....
            Pathetic fukks.
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            • Kingctb27
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              • 07-16-08
              • 2258

              #41
              You fuccs dissing him should move to Iraq.

              We all know HE is the only one who has anything to do with the economy.
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              • The Seer
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                • 10-29-07
                • 10641

                #42
                Originally posted by Deuce
                Pathetic fukks.
                probably communists too
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                • Cloak & Dagger
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                  • 11-15-07
                  • 4781

                  #43
                  Originally posted by seaborneq
                  You must have pulled all of your investments last year, or you are an illegitimate son.
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                  • InTheHole
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                    • 04-28-08
                    • 15243

                    #44
                    Originally posted by crisp
                    what doesn't define him as a fine pres?
                    All I know is that I haven't had to deal with another 9-11 and unfortunetely I don't think the trend is going to continue under Obama
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                    • reno cool
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                      • 07-02-08
                      • 3567

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Kingctb27
                      You fuccs dissing him should move to Iraq.

                      We all know HE is the only one who has anything to do with the economy.
                      I'm sure we want to move to Iraq so we can get bombed by Bush. Yeah, that makes sense.
                      bird bird da bird's da word
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                      • reno cool
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                        • 07-02-08
                        • 3567

                        #46
                        Originally posted by tacomax
                        The clip I saw showed 2 throws, and appeared to be coming from a different direction. Is this a separate event? Does he get pelted with shoes regularly?
                        bird bird da bird's da word
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                        • JoshW
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                          #47
                          One journalist, two shoes.
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                          • Thor4140
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                            • 02-09-08
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by EBSB52
                            Is this a joke? Bush, fine president? WHat defines him as a fine pres?
                            A retard would define him as that or one of those backward ass hillbilly's in the south
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                            • Thor4140
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                              • 02-09-08
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by InTheHole
                              All I know is that I haven't had to deal with another 9-11 and unfortunetely I don't think the trend is going to continue under Obama
                              u mean we haven't dealt with one since the one on his watch?
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                              • InTheHole
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                                • 04-28-08
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                                #50
                                Those attacks were planned well before Sept of 2001. I remember a series of them under a previous administration with no response.
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                                • tacomax
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by pags11
                                  SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                  Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                  I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                  Originally posted by curious
                                  taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                  • tacomax
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by pags11
                                    SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                    I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                    Originally posted by curious
                                    taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                    • tacomax
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                                      #53
                                      ....
                                      Originally posted by pags11
                                      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                      Originally posted by curious
                                      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                      • therber2
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                                        • 12-22-08
                                        • 3715

                                        #54
                                        You know, I'm no pro-Bush advocate or even a republican, but damn....you people in this thread are disgusting. For eight years you all sat and bitched and moaned about the little ****er, and didn't do a goddamn thing. Why didn't any of YOU go throw the shoe at the President of the United States.

                                        I feel sorry for Obama. Don't you see how he tries to appease just about everybody for fear of getting "shoes" thrown at him? Have some respect for the President or get off your asses and do something about it. We are headed for a hell of a ride in the next four years, and don't blame it on politics...please. God!

                                        Bush's decisions in his presidency are not the only causes of the current economic turmoil. Research some economics.

                                        I am so sick of the shittalk.....man
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                                        • reno cool
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                                          #55
                                          yeah, looks like Obama will be another worthless backpedaling shitbag like Clinton.

                                          The shoe throwing however, is highly symbolic. Coming from an Iraqi it is almost perfect. And that will be Bush's legacy.
                                          bird bird da bird's da word
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                                          • EBSB52
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by therber2
                                            You know, I'm no pro-Bush advocate or even a republican, but damn....you people in this thread are disgusting. For eight years you all sat and bitched and moaned about the little ****er, and didn't do a goddamn thing. Why didn't any of YOU go throw the shoe at the President of the United States.

                                            I feel sorry for Obama. Don't you see how he tries to appease just about everybody for fear of getting "shoes" thrown at him? Have some respect for the President or get off your asses and do something about it. We are headed for a hell of a ride in the next four years, and don't blame it on politics...please. God!

                                            Bush's decisions in his presidency are not the only causes of the current economic turmoil. Research some economics.

                                            I am so sick of the shittalk.....man

                                            You know, I'm no pro-Bush advocate or even a republican,.....


                                            Right...denial, a common trait amongst Republicans these days, as well as Obama basjing.


                                            but damn....you people in this thread are disgusting. For eight years you all sat and bitched and moaned about the little ****er, and didn't do a goddamn thing.

                                            We voted him out as best we could, what should we do other than that? WHat can we do?


                                            We are headed for a hell of a ride in the next four years, and don't blame it on politics...please. God!


                                            Because you think Obama is bad? That's a joke, let the man do something, many things and then judge him.


                                            Bush's decisions in his presidency are not the only causes of the current economic turmoil. Research some economics.

                                            His were front-runners. You can also say that Clinton's major successes weren't all of his credit, which is true, he presided over very robust economic times and did very good things, so I'm not judging the intangibles with Bush, just the tangibles and he's as asshole; can you disagree?
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                                            • EBSB52
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by reno cool
                                              yeah, looks like Obama will be another worthless backpedaling shitbag like Clinton.

                                              The shoe throwing however, is highly symbolic. Coming from an Iraqi it is almost perfect. And that will be Bush's legacy.

                                              yeah, looks like Obama will be another worthless backpedaling shitbag like Clinton.

                                              We've been thru this before, but explain and contrats with other presidents as to what they did and what they could have done. Please use data to support your argument, because I will with my counterargument.
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                                              • EBSB52
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by InTheHole
                                                Those attacks were planned well before Sept of 2001. I remember a series of them under a previous administration with no response.

                                                Those threats go back to GHWB's days, right after the Gulf War, which is what infuriated OBL. GHWB did nothing to shore up port security, Clinton did nothing and GWB did nothing including taking the entire month of August off on vacation. A simple executive order could have stopped that and it could have been complete in 2 weeks. If congress overrode him, let it be, but this current Bush is as culpable as the rest. Neo-garbage will never admit that, and Bush had 7 months and 3 weeks to do something, yet not 1 action to shore up port security other than try to sell the ports off to some Arab nations after 911.
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                                                • EBSB52
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Deuce
                                                  Pathetic fukks.

                                                  Idiotic, uneducated dick.
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                                                  • curious
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                                                    • 07-20-07
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                                                    #60
                                                    I wish our President would have pulled out a pistol and smoked the mother ****er and stared right into the camera and told all those ****ing lunatics in the middle east "THIS is what happens when you **** with Amerika you ****ing ragheads".

                                                    Imagine what would have happened if that had been Putin or Ping Pong (whatever the **** China's current dictator is called) or Skorzy that this raghead had thrown a shoe at.
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                                                    • flyingillini
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by curious
                                                      I wish our President would have pulled out a pistol and smoked the mother ****er and stared right into the camera and told all those ****ing lunatics in the middle east "THIS is what happens when you **** with Amerika you ****ing ragheads".

                                                      Imagine what would have happened if that had been Putin or Ping Pong (whatever the **** China's current dictator is called) or Skorzy that this raghead had thrown a shoe at.
                                                      hahaha
                                                      המוסד‎
                                                      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                      • curious
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by EBSB52
                                                        Those threats go back to GHWB's days, right after the Gulf War, which is what infuriated OBL. GHWB did nothing to shore up port security, Clinton did nothing and GWB did nothing including taking the entire month of August off on vacation. A simple executive order could have stopped that and it could have been complete in 2 weeks. If congress overrode him, let it be, but this current Bush is as culpable as the rest. Neo-garbage will never admit that, and Bush had 7 months and 3 weeks to do something, yet not 1 action to shore up port security other than try to sell the ports off to some Arab nations after 911.
                                                        Wow, what a bunch of bullshit. Ben Laden was "infuriated" long before the first gulf war. Our problems with Islamic terrorism go back to 1918 when the British sold out the Arabs who had helped defeat the Ottoman Turks. The only thing that is different now is that our enemies now have oil money and modern technology.

                                                        "Islam" is a political as well as religious ideology which has had as its primary motivation world domination since its founding. If you knew anything about the tribes that actually control Saudi Arabia (the king is a figurehead put in place to look nice to the west) and the holy sites of Mecca and Medina (the tribe that Osama Ben Laden is from) you would understand that. Global Jihad is not new, it is 1300 years old. The global Jihadists never quit, they only appear to be peaceful when peace serves their purposes. There is a long list of terrorist acts directed at the west that precede the first gulf war.

                                                        What Amerika does or does not do will not change the motivations of the global Jihadists.

                                                        The DemoCong stripped our intelligence agencies (we used to have the best in the world) so much that after the Clintonistas were done we had the equivalent of the camp fire girls for an intelligence agency. Terrorist acts against our facilities, soldiers and civilians were allowed to go unpunished. Three times we had Osama Ben Laden in our grasp and three times the Clintonistas let him go. Why was that? The worst thing you can do is show a Muslim that you are weak. When Carter allowed Muslims to invade sovereign US territory and kidnap our people, and when the Cintonistas let numerous terror attacks go unpunished this only emboldened our enemies. Islamists only understand one thing, the sharpened blade, the barrel of the gun.

                                                        The fact that we have not had another 9/11 is not due to a lack of trying by the terrorists. In every case when captured high level terrorist operatives are asked "why aren't you more active in Amerika?" the answer is "it is too dangerous". Say what you want about President Bush, but it is due to vigilance that we have not had an event far worse than 9/11 on Amerika's shores.

                                                        Now we have a President who preaches this appeasement bullshit. He wants to "understand" our enemies and "dialogue" with them. The only dialogue we should be having with these murderers is to ask them if they want a blindfold just prior to being executed by firing squad. The global Jihadists are going to feel emboldened by the election of this man who wants to sit with them and sign Kumbaya (spelling?) and they are going to test his resolve.

                                                        Given the perils that we face, what is our new president's first act? He appoints a Clintonista as secretary of state. Are you ****ing kidding me? Eight years of appeasement, backroom deals, "aid" packages, ignoring terrorist base camps which were operating in the open all over the world led us directly to 9/11.

                                                        I can only hope that the terrorists are stupid enough to attack something that will get the soccer moms riled up. A shopping center, or a school. Because Amerika needs to get mad and needs to tell our so-called leaders in no uncertain terms that we expect global Jihadists to be hunted down and killed no matter where they are in the world and there is to be no appeasement, no negotiation, no backing down.
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                                                        • EBSB52
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by curious
                                                          Wow, what a bunch of bullshit. Ben Laden was "infuriated" long before the first gulf war. Our problems with Islamic terrorism go back to 1918 when the British sold out the Arabs who had helped defeat the Ottoman Turks. The only thing that is different now is that our enemies now have oil money and modern technology.

                                                          "Islam" is a political as well as religious ideology which has had as its primary motivation world domination since its founding. If you knew anything about the tribes that actually control Saudi Arabia (the king is a figurehead put in place to look nice to the west) and the holy sites of Mecca and Medina (the tribe that Osama Ben Laden is from) you would understand that. Global Jihad is not new, it is 1300 years old. The global Jihadists never quit, they only appear to be peaceful when peace serves their purposes. There is a long list of terrorist acts directed at the west that precede the first gulf war.

                                                          What Amerika does or does not do will not change the motivations of the global Jihadists.

                                                          The DemoCong stripped our intelligence agencies (we used to have the best in the world) so much that after the Clintonistas were done we had the equivalent of the camp fire girls for an intelligence agency. Terrorist acts against our facilities, soldiers and civilians were allowed to go unpunished. Three times we had Osama Ben Laden in our grasp and three times the Clintonistas let him go. Why was that? The worst thing you can do is show a Muslim that you are weak. When Carter allowed Muslims to invade sovereign US territory and kidnap our people, and when the Cintonistas let numerous terror attacks go unpunished this only emboldened our enemies. Islamists only understand one thing, the sharpened blade, the barrel of the gun.

                                                          The fact that we have not had another 9/11 is not due to a lack of trying by the terrorists. In every case when captured high level terrorist operatives are asked "why aren't you more active in Amerika?" the answer is "it is too dangerous". Say what you want about President Bush, but it is due to vigilance that we have not had an event far worse than 9/11 on Amerika's shores.

                                                          Now we have a President who preaches this appeasement bullshit. He wants to "understand" our enemies and "dialogue" with them. The only dialogue we should be having with these murderers is to ask them if they want a blindfold just prior to being executed by firing squad. The global Jihadists are going to feel emboldened by the election of this man who wants to sit with them and sign Kumbaya (spelling?) and they are going to test his resolve.

                                                          Given the perils that we face, what is our new president's first act? He appoints a Clintonista as secretary of state. Are you ****ing kidding me? Eight years of appeasement, backroom deals, "aid" packages, ignoring terrorist base camps which were operating in the open all over the world led us directly to 9/11.

                                                          I can only hope that the terrorists are stupid enough to attack something that will get the soccer moms riled up. A shopping center, or a school. Because Amerika needs to get mad and needs to tell our so-called leaders in no uncertain terms that we expect global Jihadists to be hunted down and killed no matter where they are in the world and there is to be no appeasement, no negotiation, no backing down.

                                                          Wow, what a bunch of bullshit. Ben Laden was "infuriated" long before the first gulf war. Our problems with Islamic terrorism go back to 1918 when the British sold out the Arabs who had helped defeat the Ottoman Turks. The only thing that is different now is that our enemies now have oil money and modern technology.
                                                          True, hell, we can go back 500 or more years and fight strife. Most of the anger comes from the 1948 Palestinian War where we sided with the Jews and reallocated what is now Israel. But OBL with his inherited money become the most enraged as Iraq invaded Kuwait and OBL went to the Saudis and wanted to handle the matter within the Muslim world. Of course Saudi said no, went back and forth with, “I insists” until the Saudis revoked his passport. Then OBL turned all of his hatred toward the US and made it his life agenda, let’s say his #1 bucket list agenda. That is what directly affected the 2 WTC attacks as well as the Cole and other attacks.
                                                          BTW, what did Reagan do after the Beirut bombing? Here, I have it for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
                                                          Besides a few shellings, there was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans. In December 1983, U.S. aircraft attacked Syrian targets in Lebanon, but this was in response to Syrian missile attacks on planes, not the barracks bombing.
                                                          In the meantime, the attack gave a boost to the growth of the Shi'ite organization Hezbollah. Hezbollah denied involvement in the attacks but was seen by Lebanese as involved nonetheless as it praised the "two martyr mujahideen" who "set out to inflict upon the U.S. Administration an utter defeat not experienced since Vietnam ..." Hezbollah was now seen by many as "the spearhead of the sacred Muslim struggle against foreign occupation".

                                                          ZERO, ZIP, NADA, YOUR FVCKING PARTIES HERO DID NOTHING YET YOU HOLD HIM IN PRAISE. LOOK IN THE MIRROR, GENIUS.

                                                          "Islam" is a political as well as religious ideology which has had as its primary motivation world domination since its founding. If you knew anything about the tribes that actually control Saudi Arabia (the king is a figurehead put in place to look nice to the west) and the holy sites of Mecca and Medina (the tribe that Osama Ben Laden is from) you would understand that. Global Jihad is not new, it is 1300 years old.
                                                          I know plenty, how, in your feeble mind can you infer that I think the entire Arab-Anglo conflict is 18 or so years old? It goes in waves, since WWII the Palestinian War, The Munich Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre), the 1979 Iranian Hostage crisis, then the Gulf War. There are several different militant factions that carry out these attacks and OBL was the founder of Al-Qaeda.

                                                          The global Jihadists never quit, they only appear to be peaceful when peace serves their purposes. There is a long list of terrorist acts directed at the west that precede the first gulf war.
                                                          No sh!t. Tjanks, my obvious. What immediately motivated OBL was the Gulf War and Saudis reaction as well as the US involvement.

                                                          What Amerika does or does not do will not change the motivations of the global Jihadists.
                                                          Nice that you can predict things, try not to put yourself on presumptive limbs.

                                                          The DemoCong stripped our intelligence agencies (we used to have the best in the world) so much that after the Clintonistas were done we had the equivalent of the camp fire girls for an intelligence agency.
                                                          - Illustrate how he did so,
                                                          - Illustrate how it would take a genius to know that an attack could be expected after the Gulf War and furtherance of OBL
                                                          - And then illustrate what GHWB or GWB did during their term to counter this

                                                          Terrorist acts against our facilities, soldiers and civilians were allowed to go unpunished.
                                                          Which?

                                                          Three times we had Osama Ben Laden in our grasp and three times the Clintonistas let him go. Why was that?
                                                          That’s as reliable as GWB’s fiscal polies. That has never been proven, just more RW rhetoric.

                                                          The worst thing you can do is show a Muslim that you are weak. When Carter allowed Muslims to invade sovereign US territory and kidnap our people, and when the Cintonistas let numerous terror attacks go unpunished this only emboldened our enemies. Islamists only understand one thing, the sharpened blade, the barrel of the gun.
                                                          And when Reagan did ZERO after the Beirut attack….. I see you left that off of pour list. And be your inane self and claim the Dems in congress blocked it, war powers are executive; Reagan did the very things you illustrate here.

                                                          The fact that we have not had another 9/11 is not due to a lack of trying by the terrorists. In every case when captured high level terrorist operatives are asked "why aren't you more active in Amerika?" the answer is "it is too dangerous".
                                                          Do you have independent examples, or just ones from the American torture chambers? And the reason terrorists have not attacked is that we have shored up deficiencies in our border and port security, something that could have been wholly w/o the Iraq War. The Iraq War is just an expensive hobby, it did nothing to find WMD’s to do anything constructive but to cost 4k+ lives, 800B and create hate around the world for us. Security is something both Bush’s and Clinton should have done, which is why we have not had attacks since 911.

                                                          Say what you want about President Bush, but it is due to vigilance that we have not had an event far worse than 9/11 on Amerika's shores.
                                                          Yes, his domestic security as well as congress’s acts to fund security measures. The war does nothing but perhaps occupy their time a bit. Of course when the terrorists are in Afghanistan and you attack Iraq because daddy was threatened by them, that explains why the Iraq War has done nothing to enhance US security.

                                                          Now we have a President who preaches this appeasement bullshit. He wants to "understand" our enemies and "dialogue" with them.
                                                          Right, Bush has illustrated how aggravating our allies and enemies has helped so much.

                                                          The only dialogue we should be having with these murderers is to ask them if they want a blindfold just prior to being executed by firing squad.
                                                          Right, then they will plan more attacks. You retributionists crack me up, you actually believe that these other factions fear this, when in reality it fires them up.

                                                          The global Jihadists are going to feel emboldened by the election of this man who wants to sit with them and sign Kumbaya (spelling?) and they are going to test his resolve.
                                                          Actually they don’t give a sh!t about our politics, amazing you think they would care. If they were so scared of the great GWB they wouldn’t have attacked under his watch, perhaps Bush is a bigger pussy than you claim and his election emboldened them, using your illogic.

                                                          Given the perils that we face, what is our new president's first act? He appoints a Clintonista as secretary of state.
                                                          Bets of luck for you getting help for your Clinton hate syndrome; sucks to be you.

                                                          Are you ****ing kidding me? Eight years of appeasement, backroom deals, "aid" packages, ignoring terrorist base camps which were operating in the open all over the world led us directly to 9/11.
                                                          Riiiiiiiiight and your boy GWB did FVCKING NOTHING TO COUNTER IT BUT ROUND UP DOGGIES ON HIS RANCH THE MONTH IMMEDIATLEY PROCEDING THE ATTACK. And you stand by your ignorance that Clinton was the bad guy when your turd had 7 months, 3 weeks to fix the so-called mess Clinton left? Get a clue, even if you have to borrow the money for it.

                                                          I can only hope that the terrorists are stupid enough to attack something that will get the soccer moms riled up. A shopping center, or a school. Because Amerika needs to get mad and needs to tell our so-called leaders in no uncertain terms that we expect global Jihadists to be hunted down and killed no matter where they are in the world and there is to be no appeasement, no negotiation, no backing down.
                                                          Right, because getting mad and doing irrational things as your hero Bush has done is the answer. Why not get smart instead of getting mad? The neo-cons will be ousted until they figure this one out. Did you not listen to the voters? The trash you have elected over the last 3 decades has been heard by the electorate.


                                                          Now, onto the points you avoided. don’t make me compare you to Slacker for running from points.

                                                          1) GHWB did nothing to shore up port security,
                                                          2) GWB did nothing including taking the entire month of August off on vacation.
                                                          3) A simple executive order could have stopped that and it could have been complete in 2 weeks. If congress overrode him, let it be, but this current Bush is as culpable as the rest.
                                                          4) Neo-garbage will never admit that, and Bush had 7 months and 3 weeks to do something, yet not 1 action to shore up port security other than try to sell the ports off to some Arab nations after 911.
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                                                          • Richkas
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-03-08
                                                            • 19396

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by EBSB52
                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>Wow, what a bunch of bullshit. Ben Laden was "infuriated" long before the first gulf war. Our problems with Islamic terrorism go back to 1918 when the British sold out the Arabs who had helped defeat the Ottoman Turks. The only thing that is different now is that our enemies now have oil money and modern technology.

                                                            True, hell, we can go back 500 or more years and fight strife. Most of the anger comes from the 1948 Palestinian War where we sided with the Jews and reallocated what is now Israel. But OBL with his inherited money become the most enraged as Iraq invaded Kuwait and OBL went to the Saudis and wanted to handle the matter within the Muslim world. Of course Saudi said no, went back and forth with, “I insists” until the Saudis revoked his passport. Then OBL turned all of his hatred toward the US and made it his life agenda, let’s say his #1 bucket list agenda. That is what directly affected the 2 WTC attacks as well as the Cole and other attacks.
                                                            BTW, what did Reagan do after the Beirut bombing? Here, I have it for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
                                                            Besides a few shellings, there was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans. In December 1983, U.S. aircraft attacked Syrian targets in Lebanon, but this was in response to Syrian missile attacks on planes, not the barracks bombing.
                                                            In the meantime, the attack gave a boost to the growth of the Shi'ite organization Hezbollah. Hezbollah denied involvement in the attacks but was seen by Lebanese as involved nonetheless as it praised the "two martyr mujahideen" who "set out to inflict upon the U.S. Administration an utter defeat not experienced since Vietnam ..." Hezbollah was now seen by many as "the spearhead of the sacred Muslim struggle against foreign occupation".

                                                            ZERO, ZIP, NADA, YOUR FVCKING PARTIES HERO DID NOTHING YET YOU HOLD HIM IN PRAISE. LOOK IN THE MIRROR, GENIUS.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Islam" is a political as well as religious ideology which has had as its primary motivation world domination since its founding. If you knew anything about the tribes that actually control Saudi Arabia (the king is a figurehead put in place to look nice to the west) and the holy sites of Mecca and Medina (the tribe that Osama Ben Laden is from) you would understand that. Global Jihad is not new, it is 1300 years old.

                                                            I know plenty, how, in your feeble mind can you infer that I think the entire Arab-Anglo conflict is 18 or so years old? It goes in waves, since WWII the Palestinian War, The Munich Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre), the 1979 Iranian Hostage crisis, then the Gulf War. There are several different militant factions that carry out these attacks and OBL was the founder of Al-Qaeda.
                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The global Jihadists never quit, they only appear to be peaceful when peace serves their purposes. There is a long list of terrorist acts directed at the west that precede the first gulf war.

                                                            No sh!t. Tjanks, my obvious. What immediately motivated OBL was the Gulf War and Saudis reaction as well as the US involvement.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>What Amerika does or does not do will not change the motivations of the global Jihadists.

                                                            Nice that you can predict things, try not to put yourself on presumptive limbs.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The DemoCong stripped our intelligence agencies (we used to have the best in the world) so much that after the Clintonistas were done we had the equivalent of the camp fire girls for an intelligence agency.

                                                            - Illustrate how he did so,
                                                            - Illustrate how it would take a genius to know that an attack could be expected after the Gulf War and furtherance of OBL
                                                            - And then illustrate what GHWB or GWB did during their term to counter this

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Terrorist acts against our facilities, soldiers and civilians were allowed to go unpunished.

                                                            Which?

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Three times we had Osama Ben Laden in our grasp and three times the Clintonistas let him go. Why was that?

                                                            That’s as reliable as GWB’s fiscal polies. That has never been proven, just more RW rhetoric.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>The worst thing you can do is show a Muslim that you are weak. When Carter allowed Muslims to invade sovereign US territory and kidnap our people, and when the Cintonistas let numerous terror attacks go unpunished this only emboldened our enemies. Islamists only understand one thing, the sharpened blade, the barrel of the gun.

                                                            And when Reagan did ZERO after the Beirut attack….. I see you left that off of pour list. And be your inane self and claim the Dems in congress blocked it, war powers are executive; Reagan did the very things you illustrate here.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>The fact that we have not had another 9/11 is not due to a lack of trying by the terrorists. In every case when captured high level terrorist operatives are asked "why aren't you more active in Amerika?" the answer is "it is too dangerous".

                                                            Do you have independent examples, or just ones from the American torture chambers? And the reason terrorists have not attacked is that we have shored up deficiencies in our border and port security, something that could have been wholly w/o the Iraq War. The Iraq War is just an expensive hobby, it did nothing to find WMD’s to do anything constructive but to cost 4k+ lives, 800B and create hate around the world for us. Security is something both Bush’s and Clinton should have done, which is why we have not had attacks since 911.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Say what you want about President Bush, but it is due to vigilance that we have not had an event far worse than 9/11 on Amerika's shores.
                                                            Yes, his domestic security as well as congress’s acts to fund security measures. The war does nothing but perhaps occupy their time a bit. Of course when the terrorists are in Afghanistan and you attack Iraq because daddy was threatened by them, that explains why the Iraq War has done nothing to enhance US security.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now we have a President who preaches this appeasement bullshit. He wants to "understand" our enemies and "dialogue" with them.

                                                            Right, Bush has illustrated how aggravating our allies and enemies has helped so much.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>The only dialogue we should be having with these murderers is to ask them if they want a blindfold just prior to being executed by firing squad.

                                                            Right, then they will plan more attacks. You retributionists crack me up, you actually believe that these other factions fear this, when in reality it fires them up.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>The global Jihadists are going to feel emboldened by the election of this man who wants to sit with them and sign Kumbaya (spelling?) and they are going to test his resolve.

                                                            Actually they don’t give a sh!t about our politics, amazing you think they would care. If they were so scared of the great GWB they wouldn’t have attacked under his watch, perhaps Bush is a bigger pussy than you claim and his election emboldened them, using your illogic.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>Given the perils that we face, what is our new president's first act? He appoints a Clintonista as secretary of state.

                                                            Bets of luck for you getting help for your Clinton hate syndrome; sucks to be you.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>Are you ****ing kidding me? Eight years of appeasement, backroom deals, "aid" packages, ignoring terrorist base camps which were operating in the open all over the world led us directly to 9/11.
                                                            Riiiiiiiiight and your boy GWB did FVCKING NOTHING TO COUNTER IT BUT ROUND UP DOGGIES ON HIS RANCH THE MONTH IMMEDIATLEY PROCEDING THE ATTACK. And you stand by your ignorance that Clinton was the bad guy when your turd had 7 months, 3 weeks to fix the so-called mess Clinton left? Get a clue, even if you have to borrow the money for it.

                                                            >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I can only hope that the terrorists are stupid enough to attack something that will get the soccer moms riled up. A shopping center, or a school. Because Amerika needs to get mad and needs to tell our so-called leaders in no uncertain terms that we expect global Jihadists to be hunted down and killed no matter where they are in the world and there is to be no appeasement, no negotiation, no backing down.

                                                            Right, because getting mad and doing irrational things as your hero Bush has done is the answer. Why not get smart instead of getting mad? The neo-cons will be ousted until they figure this one out.



                                                            Now, onto the points you avoided. don’t make me compare you to Slacker for running from points.

                                                            1) GHWB did nothing to shore up port security,
                                                            2) GWB did nothing including taking the entire month of August off on vacation.
                                                            3) A simple executive order could have stopped that and it could have been complete in 2 weeks. If congress overrode him, let it be, but this current Bush is as culpable as the rest.
                                                            4) Neo-garbage will never admit that, and Bush had 7 months and 3 weeks to do something, yet not 1 action to shore up port security other than try to sell the ports off to some Arab nations after 911.
                                                            Christmas Eve

                                                            You my friend need help.
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                                                            • EBSB52
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 10-30-08
                                                              • 606

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Richkas
                                                              Christmas Eve

                                                              You my friend need help.

                                                              What is it with loser Repubs not being able to express themselves? So much for no child left behind.
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                                                              • curious
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 07-20-07
                                                                • 9093

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by EBSB52
                                                                What is it with loser Repubs not being able to express themselves? So much for no child left behind.
                                                                I'm not a republican shithead.

                                                                Port "security" will not keep determined infiltrators out of our country. So, an executive order could have closed the ports and stopped 9/11 from happening if Bush had only just done so in the 7 months prior to the attack. And how would this executive order to "secure" the ports have kept the hijackers who were already in this country from getting in? Your "logic" escapes me here.

                                                                Did you not learn to read maps in school, such as the ones that show the thousands of miles of open border between us and Mexico and between us and Canada.

                                                                If you want to call me a loser to my face mother ****er, my address is 701 James St
                                                                Hattiesburg, MS
                                                                feel free to drop by anytime.

                                                                Gawd what a ****ing jackass.
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                                                                • Weezy F.
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-29-08
                                                                  • 953

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Internet toughguy
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                                                                  • EBSB52
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 10-30-08
                                                                    • 606

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by curious
                                                                    I'm not a republican shithead.

                                                                    Port "security" will not keep determined infiltrators out of our country. So, an executive order could have closed the ports and stopped 9/11 from happening if Bush had only just done so in the 7 months prior to the attack. And how would this executive order to "secure" the ports have kept the hijackers who were already in this country from getting in? Your "logic" escapes me here.

                                                                    Did you not learn to read maps in school, such as the ones that show the thousands of miles of open border between us and Mexico and between us and Canada.

                                                                    If you want to call me a loser to my face mother ****er, my address is 701 James St
                                                                    Hattiesburg, MS
                                                                    feel free to drop by anytime.

                                                                    Gawd what a ****ing jackass.

                                                                    I'm not a republican shithead.

                                                                    Well then what kind of shithead are you?


                                                                    Port "security" will not keep determined infiltrators out of our country. So, an executive order could have closed the ports and stopped 9/11 from happening if Bush had only just done so in the 7 months prior to the attack. And how would this executive order to "secure" the ports have kept the hijackers who were already in this country from getting in? Your "logic" escapes me here.

                                                                    Perhaps you have lived a sheltered life and have never heard of an airPORT. Ports means seaports and airports; your lack of vocabulary escapes me. So, once the airports would have been secure, as they are now, the ability to get box cutters on board, the ability to defeat the cockpit door and a lot of things would have been secured, so 911 wouldn't have happened even if your guy's hobby in the ME were avoided. The key here is homeland security, not a trillion dollar slaughtering of ours and theirs.

                                                                    Did you not learn to read maps in school, such as the ones that show the thousands of miles of open border between us and Mexico and between us and Canada.

                                                                    You must have been homeschooled in the Ozarks, because any 5th grader knows an airport is a port.


                                                                    If you want to call me a loser to my face mother ****er, my address is 701 James St
                                                                    Hattiesburg, MS
                                                                    feel free to drop by anytime.
                                                                    Yea, I'll drive from Arizona to Mississippi (by the way, that explains volumes) for nothing, let me get right on that, idiot.


                                                                    Gawd what a ****ing jackass

                                                                    You don't even know an airport is a port and I'm a jackass? Yea, there's that good down-south schoolin' fer ya. BTW, is it still legal to fvck your little sister down there?
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                                                                    • Boner_18
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-24-08
                                                                      • 8301

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Are you attacking the South by generalizing and calling them uneducated? That is ridiculous man. Get a grip.
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                                                                      • EBSB52
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 10-30-08
                                                                        • 606

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Boner_18
                                                                        Are you attacking the South by generalizing and calling them uneducated? That is ridiculous man. Get a grip.

                                                                        Just having fun.... relax. I'm sure 99.9% of the people in the south are aware that an airport is a port. Just the .1% that call their dad both dad and uncle are not aware.
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