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  • mcduggly
    SBR MVP
    • 01-22-12
    • 2489

    #36
    Originally posted by tto827
    If you are right about them coming back and winning then definitely. But if you bet them earlier, do you really want to tack more on? NBA games especially, early points mean very little.

    And did you really expect them to be down early? Most of the time it comes out as almost a chase play, at least when I do it
    Not necessarily. Like today in the Syracuse/Seton Hall game, with like 10 minutes left in the 1st half, SH was sitting with a 10-point lead. Knowing that Syracuse was favored by double digit points, you had to assume that they were going to come back, so why not take them in-play? I have never bet live so I'm not sure what the line would have been at that point in the game since it was still fairly early, but I have to assume that it was better than the moneyline given before the game, right?
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    • tto827
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-01-12
      • 9078

      #37
      Originally posted by mcduggly
      Not necessarily. Like today in the Syracuse/Seton Hall game, with like 10 minutes left in the 1st half, SH was sitting with a 10-point lead. Knowing that Syracuse was favored by double digit points, you had to assume that they were going to come back, so why not take them in-play? I have never bet live so I'm not sure what the line would have been at that point in the game since it was still fairly early, but I have to assume that it was better than the moneyline given before the game, right?
      Yes it was better than that. It was likely accurately priced for the likelihood that Syracuse could overcome a 10 point deficit at that point in the game.

      My guess is it was close to even money, heck maybe even worse than that.
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      • mcduggly
        SBR MVP
        • 01-22-12
        • 2489

        #38
        Originally posted by tto827
        Yes it was better than that. It was likely accurately priced for the likelihood that Syracuse could overcome a 10 point deficit at that point in the game.

        My guess is it was close to even money, heck maybe even worse than that.
        And I would have taken that all day long. I think that's considered value.
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        • tto827
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-01-12
          • 9078

          #39
          Originally posted by mcduggly
          And I would have taken that all day long. I think that's considered value.
          And in this case it was value. But bet every favorite who gets down DD early, and just like any system, you'll end up around 50% (against a standard evenly juiced spread) and down vig in the long run.

          I'm not trying to say there isn't value live betting Duggly. Just saying that you're often looking at betting into -115 lines, and theoretically that's going to end up worse than betting into -105 lines pregame at 5dimes. Just like any sort of bet, if you pick your spots and win more often than the implied odds (given by the line with vig) then you are going to make money doing it.
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          • mbs4
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-14-10
            • 388

            #40
            Originally posted by mcduggly
            And I would have taken that all day long. I think that's considered value.
            Value is unknown, only expected value can be estimated at the wager time.
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            • tto827
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-01-12
              • 9078

              #41
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              • mcduggly
                SBR MVP
                • 01-22-12
                • 2489

                #42
                Wait, so did you make the bet? If so, I'll root the middle in for you.
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                • tto827
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-01-12
                  • 9078

                  #43
                  Ya, I threw a hundy on St +3

                  Thanks
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                  • tto827
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-01-12
                    • 9078

                    #44
                    15-0 run, unreal
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                    • mcduggly
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-22-12
                      • 2489

                      #45
                      In the money with 49 seconds to go.
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                      • mcduggly
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-22-12
                        • 2489

                        #46
                        22 seconds.
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                        • tto827
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-01-12
                          • 9078

                          #47
                          That turnover at 49 seconds worked out perfect. Then the missed shot by the Huskies, just hoping St shoots as time expires now.
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                          • mcduggly
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-22-12
                            • 2489

                            #48
                            You're in a great situation here with State having the ball and only 14 seconds left. They should hold for the last shot, so no free throws hopefully.
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                            • mcduggly
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-22-12
                              • 2489

                              #49
                              No they fouled!
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                              • tto827
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-01-12
                                • 9078

                                #50
                                Anyone know how to find out if its being inbounded, or 1-1, or 2 shots?
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                                • tto827
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-01-12
                                  • 9078

                                  #51
                                  Not even in the bonus yet, c'mon!!!!!!!
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                                  • mcduggly
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-22-12
                                    • 2489

                                    #52
                                    Nice win, TT.
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                                    • InTheDrink
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-23-09
                                      • 23983

                                      #53
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                                      • tto827
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-01-12
                                        • 9078

                                        #54
                                        You can just gimme the leg lamp for March now guys.
                                        Thanks in advance.
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                                        • BigDeem5
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-26-11
                                          • 17191

                                          #55
                                          Line was 3, over under 126 lol

                                          Grats
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                                          • InTheDrink
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-23-09
                                            • 23983

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by tto827
                                            You can just gimme the leg lamp for March now guys.
                                            Thanks in advance.
                                            how can you lose the college hoops pool and get the leg lamp

                                            nice hit tito
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                                            • mcduggly
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-22-12
                                              • 2489

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                              Line was 3, over under 126 lol

                                              Grats
                                              Crazy how close they get to these outcomes.
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                                              • tatddy
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-02-10
                                                • 10779

                                                #58
                                                Nice!
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                                                • tto827
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-01-12
                                                  • 9078

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by tatddy
                                                  Nice!
                                                  Gracias
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