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  • pico
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-05-07
    • 27321

    #1
    MNF
    tampa ml +165

    i might get screwed with a fg. oh well.
  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #2
    I only played Panthers -2 1st Half
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    • riggs
      Restricted User
      • 11-06-08
      • 1100

      #3
      Re-thinking Tonight's Game

      The more I look into it, I think this is either a no play or a small play on Carolina-3. My early lean was Tampa, case in point:

      Tampa Bay Buccaneers +3, I really like this game. I have already expressed my opinion of Garcia, I honestly believe he's a top QB in the league and by far the most underrated QB in the NFL. TB with Garcia is more than a formidable team. Last week's game vs. NO wasn't nearly as close as the score would have you believe. TB physically dominated NO on both sides of the ball and held Drew Brees in check, for the most part. Carolina won a big game in GB, YES THEY DID, but how many times has Carolina beat a team on the road in dramatic fashion only to come home and lose the next week??? Sometimes to crap teams too!!! Carolina is the most inconsistent team in the NFL from week to week. I absolutely love the Bucs in this spot.

      WARNING: TB has several injuries on the Defensive Line, 2 starters are questionable and 1 is out indefinitely. I'm waiting on this one to pull the trigger either way! I might make a small play on the over AND NOW LEANING THE OTHER WAY IN FAVOR OF CAROLINA! If Tampa is short-handed by 3 on defense (especially the D-Line) there's no reason to bet them in this spot. Add to that, Carolina is home (6-0 on the year) and this game is much more important for them.
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      • pico
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 04-05-07
        • 27321

        #4
        good info riggs.
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        • Shark79
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-19-07
          • 11211

          #5
          Anybody looking at the OVER on this one?
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          • fiveteamer
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-14-08
            • 10805

            #6
            Tampa is a different team at home.
            They can be had on the road, Carolina is playing pretty well. I would def. buy the half point, though.
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            • bypp
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-05-08
              • 664

              #7
              Tampa kicked the crap out of Carolina in week six, 27-3. Now, it was at home for the Bucs, but still. Delhomme turns over the ball constantly, and both teams are going to be fired up to take the lead in the NFC South. Right now I'm leaning Bucs, but I'm gonna keep doin some research on it. It'll probably be a small play no matter what because it's just hard to predict what Panthers team is going to show up.
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              • pico
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-05-07
                • 27321

                #8
                how many points is this home field advantage. i think it is more than 3 pts
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                • fiveteamer
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-08
                  • 10805

                  #9
                  If you like Tampa, I'm pretty sure the line will go to 3.5 before kick off.
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                  • MrMonkey
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-09-08
                    • 2278

                    #10
                    Thanks for the update!

                    Originally posted by riggs
                    The more I look into it, I think this is either a no play or a small play on Carolina-3. My early lean was Tampa, case in point:

                    Tampa Bay Buccaneers +3, I really like this game. I have already expressed my opinion of Garcia, I honestly believe he's a top QB in the league and by far the most underrated QB in the NFL. TB with Garcia is more than a formidable team. Last week's game vs. NO wasn't nearly as close as the score would have you believe. TB physically dominated NO on both sides of the ball and held Drew Brees in check, for the most part. Carolina won a big game in GB, YES THEY DID, but how many times has Carolina beat a team on the road in dramatic fashion only to come home and lose the next week??? Sometimes to crap teams too!!! Carolina is the most inconsistent team in the NFL from week to week. I absolutely love the Bucs in this spot.

                    WARNING: TB has several injuries on the Defensive Line, 2 starters are questionable and 1 is out indefinitely. I'm waiting on this one to pull the trigger either way! I might make a small play on the over AND NOW LEANING THE OTHER WAY IN FAVOR OF CAROLINA! If Tampa is short-handed by 3 on defense (especially the D-Line) there's no reason to bet them in this spot. Add to that, Carolina is home (6-0 on the year) and this game is much more important for them.
                    Riggs, appreciate you coming back with this. Really liked Carolina all week but yours was a good writeup to possibly stay away or go small. When you put out a play that early for MNF, things can change so much, especially sometimes with outcomes from Sunday. Thanks.

                    MrMonkey
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                    • fiveteamer
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-14-08
                      • 10805

                      #11
                      riggs, are you a Tampa Bay fanboy???
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                      • MrMonkey
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-09-08
                        • 2278

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fiveteamer
                        If you like Tampa, I'm pretty sure the line will go to 3.5 before kick off.
                        Fiveteamer, so you really believe it will go to 3.5? No way can do Carolina at that, better do it now then, just not liking the 1-1.25? Push won't hurt me.

                        MrMonkey
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                        • fiveteamer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-08
                          • 10805

                          #13
                          Well it's already 3.5 at Matchbook and it's -3 -120 at pinny, pretty sure the line will move.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            FYI:

                            Collectively, NFC South teams are an unbelievable 23-2 straight up in all home games this season, going a wallet filling 18-6-1, 75.0 percent against the spread. Furthermore, in divisional games, NFC South home teams are a perfect 9-0 straight up and 8-1 ATS, winning those critical home battles by an average of +13.3 points.

                            Carolina fits the mold, as they are 6-0 at home with an AMOV of +14.7 points per game.
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                            • fiveteamer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-08
                              • 10805

                              #15
                              Thanks LT. Good info.
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                              • pico
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 04-05-07
                                • 27321

                                #16
                                i think that is why tampa is +165.

                                if they're at a neutral field, tampa should be around -130
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #17
                                  Not knocking your play pico, reason I only played Carolina first half is that I expect them to get off to good start at home, but Tampa Bay defense is awesome and I think they will make the proper adjustments at halftime.
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                                  • pico
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 04-05-07
                                    • 27321

                                    #18
                                    +165 is like 37.74% chance of winning.

                                    i think that is about the right odds for tampa today.
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                                    • pico
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-05-07
                                      • 27321

                                      #19
                                      accuscore has tampa 29% chance of winning.
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                                      • Salcas
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-24-08
                                        • 1211

                                        #20
                                        WagerType: TeaserDate:Team:
                                        Dec 08NFL [163]BUCCANEERS (TB) +13EV (B+10)
                                        Dec 08NFL [163] TOTAL o29-110 (B+10) (BUCCANEERS (TB) vrs PANTHERS (CAR))
                                        Dec 08NBA [703] WARRIORS (GST) +10½-110 (B+7)
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                                        • fiveteamer
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-14-08
                                          • 10805

                                          #21
                                          That makes sense LT.

                                          Going to take them 1st half. -2.5
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                                          • Bake
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 11-25-08
                                            • 25

                                            #22
                                            I'm going TB +10, o31 on a 7 point tease (-130). TB keeps it close here and I don't think the o31 should have any problem covering. Yes, I am getting juiced at 20% but I didn't like either line by itself. Let's go Bucs
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                                            • Sforz
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-07-08
                                              • 2221

                                              #23
                                              Panther -3 (-120)
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                                              • riggs
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-06-08
                                                • 1100

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                riggs, are you a Tampa Bay fanboy???
                                                Haha, not at all. At the moment I have no team in any professional sport, the only teams I like are the one's who win me money from week to week. Following teams with your heart is reserved for little kids and perpetual teenagers! I think I stopped following teams when I was about 18-20, somewhere in that age range.

                                                I like teams with good coaching, strong line play, good defense, and a QB who knows how to manage games. TB has all 4 components, BUT, with injuries on the D-Line against a team who loves to run the ball and make big plays down the field off play action = disaster!
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                                                • whatdafuxup
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-25-08
                                                  • 1307

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Shark79
                                                  Anybody looking at the OVER on this one?
                                                  I was thinking about taking the over, but everyone being on the under is making me nervous.
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                                                  • fiveteamer
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-14-08
                                                    • 10805

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by whatdafuxup
                                                    I was thinking about taking the over, but everyone being on the under is making me nervous.
                                                    That should make you un-nervous.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Teaser is way to go on this game either side if your doing a 10 pointer with hoops
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                                                      • Brock Landers
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 06-30-08
                                                        • 45359

                                                        #28
                                                        this division is Totally hometeam dominant, as LT stated earlier, eye poping stats home vs road.
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                                                        • AC1318
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 10-09-06
                                                          • 6712

                                                          #29
                                                          TB will not cover the 10 either
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Carolina -2.5 1st half

                                                            God Bless
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                                                            • pokernut9999
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-25-07
                                                              • 12757

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by pico
                                                              how many points is this home field advantage. i think it is more than 3 pts
                                                              Home teams are 23-2 in the division this year.
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                                                              • MoneySportsGuy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-09-07
                                                                • 4891

                                                                #32
                                                                I like Tampa Bay to win this
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                                                                • losturmarbles
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-01-08
                                                                  • 4604

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i live in NC and normally see every carolina game. carolina is NOT a good football team, they are WAY overrated right now. and they will get exposed.

                                                                  carolina is 2-3 ats in their last 5, 0-2 ats in their last 2 at home.

                                                                  since their bye,
                                                                  they played terrible @ oak and only won because oak was even more terrible than they were
                                                                  came close to losing to det at home
                                                                  got their butt kicked @atl
                                                                  and got lucky @gb

                                                                  tb's defense is going to be the difference here. carolina's losses this year are against teams with above average defenses. WHO has carolina beat? all their wins have come against below average defenses.

                                                                  the only thing that gives me pause is to what extent the injured defensive players that are out for tb will have on the game.

                                                                  if it wasnt for that, tb+3.5 is gold. i still might play it small.
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                                                                  • losturmarbles
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-01-08
                                                                    • 4604

                                                                    #34
                                                                    also the nfc south home record trend is due to break

                                                                    and carolina WILL miss the playoffs, just watch.
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                                                                    • boys/heels fan
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 11-17-08
                                                                      • 25

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I am a N.C. native as well and not a Panthers fan but I like Carolina -3 (local) for 1 unit. Jake will throw for at least 250 yards and the current at home streak along with the defensive injuries for TB make this a small play.
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