MANNY PACQUIAO I'm on him

[MickChunky]

Graham Houston (ESPN.com contributor and all-around sharp boxing guy) posted his analysis on his site today... it's a good read:

http://www.fightwriter.com/?q=node/1992

Very good insight. I'm seeing Oscar at -175 now, waiting a little bit longer to see if it goes down more.

[SBR_John]

Very good insight. I'm seeing Oscar at -175 now, waiting a little bit longer to see if it goes down more.

The more I think about it I could see the line go higher. Lets face it all the public angles are with Oscar. Wouldnt shock probably anyone to see this close in the -190 range.

[JsmooveFTW]

I got on him at -195 cause I honestly didn't see it getting any lower. Mick, what book was that at?

[teaserpleaser]

rebate wager has -180

[Matt Rain]

The more I think about it I could see the line go higher. Lets face it all the public angles are with Oscar. Wouldnt shock probably anyone to see this close in the -190 range.

The public is you, John. Oscar is seen as washed up.

I think there'll be some back and forth, but the line will close not far from where it is now IMO.

[turbozed]

The likelihood of Pac KO'ing Oscar is so remote that BetUS is offering bettors their money back on Oscar if it happens on the two-way fight line. lolz

Maybe Pac by decision +300 plus is a better bet for Pac backers.

I wonder how much more action Manny gets. I've bet DLH at -200 and again at -175. Wish I had waited.

[Matt Rain]

I would like to know the % of bettors on each side. I'd guess 60-65% are on Pacquiao.

[Dark Horse]

De La Hoya is a smart and calculating business man. He throws the public some bs lines, but it's all about the money. There's no point in him losing this fight, because nobody will care about a rematch. And he's not going to risk his reputation by losing his last fight against a feather weight. I say he KO's the guy and goes out on a high note. That would also leave the door open to one other 'last' lucrative fight. He's going to milk 'a legend going out' for all its worth, and it will to a large extent be scripted.

[brock]

From what I here Oscar De La Hoya has paid for the promotion
of the fight. I have been hearing is commercials all week for this.
I think the promoter wins.

[bruce_outside]

to me, the fight comes down to pac's average defense. he wins his fights by an overwhelming offense. he won't be able to do this against oscar. pac will take clean shots, just like in most of his fights, but by a much harder puncher. i'll be adding to my bet on oscar since the price has come down.

[Matt Rain]

Oscar 145 Manny 142



Oscar's face looks bad. I dunno why he didn't stop cutting weight at precisely 147.

He'll probably regain over 10 pounds by tomorrow, while Manny gains 2-3 tops.

[Matt Rain]

BTW, Manny's wearing shoes and Oscar is only wearing socks in this pic.

[pat venditto]

stop with this value smalue bs rtj. this match is a coinflip. manny could knock out oscar. oscar could knock out manny. it could go all 12. we will find out tommorow. i could not take either side.
betting manny is fading a great fighter. betting oscar is fading a determined as **** underrated fighter who could school oscar tommorow night at 11.

[manong36]

hey, cock sucker. just post ur opinion in a play. no need for racist remarks. i respect ur picks, but fu

Good points guys except the part about Filipinos moving the line LOL... There is not enough Filipinos WITH money to even move a $100 handle at a cock fight.

And maybe you guys are putting too much stock in the weight factor and not enough in the age dept we will see. Good points though on DLH he does have a chin and I agree he will not be hurt in this fight unless he slips off his stool.

[Matt Rain]

manny could knock out oscar.

No.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Oscar 145 Manny 142



Oscar's face looks bad. I dunno why he didn't stop cutting weight at precisely 147.

He'll probably regain over 10 pounds by tomorrow, while Manny gains 2-3 tops.

Yea Manny at 142 5 pounds under the 147 limits is low. Oscar at 145, said post fight he'd gain 5 pounds at the most for the fight. He wanted to keep light for the speed.

[JsmooveFTW]

De La Hoya is a smart and calculating business man. He throws the public some bs lines, but it's all about the money. There's no point in him losing this fight, because nobody will care about a rematch. And he's not going to risk his reputation by losing his last fight against a feather weight. I say he KO's the guy and goes out on a high note. That would also leave the door open to one other 'last' lucrative fight. He's going to milk 'a legend going out' for all its worth, and it will to a large extent be scripted.

He's already said he's going to fight against because of the shame his ducking Margarito caused. However he's also said that if he loses he will duck and cower into retirement. Talk about shame if he loses. This is just another fight that shouldn't have been made, but the casual boxing fan gets suckered in to thinking someone like Pac has a chance. Get on DLH while you can. Easy money like this in boxing comes along maybe twice a year.

[SBR_John]

hey, cock sucker. just post ur opinion in a play. no need for racist remarks. i respect ur picks, but fu

Must of missed the racist part. I do apologize if there is something in any of my posts that seemed to be. If you are around here much you might already know I live part time in the Philippines and am marrying a Filipina pictured in my avatar. I'm pretty sure I'm not racist against Filipinos or any other race. Go Pacman!

[turbozed]

I thought it was legitimately funny John. Most Filipinos I know would've laughed at and agreed with the statement.

[losturmarbles]

i think manong is just a ghost trying to razz john

[likewhoaa]

de la hoyas stamina has been and WILL always be horrible. he has faded in every fight from his prime til now ... he fights in spurts. if he can't KO pac in 1st 2 rounds I see pac just outworking him over 12. He hasn't fought@ weltrweight in a decade nor used his jab as a real weapon...takin pac dec @ +350

[Dan]

No.

I agree. No way Manny knocks Oscar out.

[mv09]

People seem to forget that in Pacquiao's last fight, he weighed in at 135, but fought at 147 and completely destroyed David Diaz.

Tremendous Value for The Pacman.

[JsmooveFTW]

Comparing David Diaz the BUM to De La Hoya the WELTERWEIGHT is just plain silly

[Matt Rain]

People seem to forget that in Pacquiao's last fight, he weighed in at 135, but fought at 147 and completely destroyed David Diaz.

Tremendous Value for The Pacman.

No. There'd be value on Pacquiao at about +400. I got -170 on DLH and I still can't believe it.

[mv09]

Comparing David Diaz the BUM to De La Hoya the WELTERWEIGHT is just plain silly

The point of the post was to prove that he gained 12 lbs FOUGHT at 147 and did not lose speed or strengrh

Pacman is faster, more conditioned, and a better overall boxer, Oscar has strength, but the Pac will win this fight

[Matt Rain]

Nice hit, John.

[pimike]

Yea John

[MexicanStallion]

Great call. You nailed this pick days earlier and stuck with it. I had no play on this, but was leaning on Manny.

[JsmooveFTW]

The point of the post was to prove that he gained 12 lbs FOUGHT at 147 and did not lose speed or strengrh

Pacman is faster, more conditioned, and a better overall boxer, Oscar has strength, but the Pac will win this fight

Sorry but that was more of a shot fighter in there today than Morales ever looked. Whether you find pride in your blind pick or not, no expert in boxing saw DLH looking like that and entering the ring only 2 pounds higher than the weigh in. That was a money grubbing piece of shit that managed to pull another rouse on even the biggest of boxing experts.

[pat venditto]

LMAO MATT RAIN "NO" OWNED.

btw RTJ worst post ever on sbr this could be worse than dabacviets locks. No value in manny un****in real you don't know shit.

[rjt721]

LMAO MATT RAIN "NO" OWNED.

btw RTJ worst post ever on sbr this could be worse than dabacviets locks. No value in manny un****in real you don't know shit.

LOL. That didn't take long.

Congrats to those on Pac tonight. I obviously couldn't have been more wrong on this one.

venditto, I'm sure you more than anyone else can relate to being wrong.

And nowhere did I ever say it was a "lock".

[pat venditto]

you said impossible you ****. burried nice capping.

[pat venditto]

Fuking Burried Rjt You Got Crushed.

[SBR_John]

Thanks guys, Oscar is too far past his prime to take on complete fighters even with the weight difference.