Peyton is definately not past his prime.. Qbs get better from a mental aspect but lose their physical attributes mcuh after 31 years old.. Peyton is in his prime now. The talent around him is what is worse than it was a few years ago.
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i would have to agree except for the fact if you fade his ridiculous picks, you can win $ from his stupidityOriginally posted by daggerkobeComment -
My first answer is 'neither'. Both are 1st ballot HOF, both deserve it.
Put a gun to my head, I pick Favre. He's definitely the iron man and the gunslinger as well as MVP & SB XXXI, he's got the goods. But he's got a lot of game ending interceptions that haunt me. I'd rather take Manning when I need a game winning drive.Comment -
Here is a key point you all are missing... I say Manning because Farve, incase you are not paying attention, is completing well over 70% of his passes this year on a NEW TEAM... He doesn't have years with these recievers so the timing is not what it could be and completing well over 70% of his passes at nearly 40 years of age on a totally new team in a totally new system...? Yeah I'd say that is not over rated...
IF "gun slinger" means he throws into coverage then you people need to stop jockin' the clique "gun slinger" because there is not one QB in the NFL that does not throw into coverage on most of their passes... They ALL do hoping the DB is not looking so lose the "gun slinger" sh*t... I know I know the media told you to say it...
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I don't think gunslinger is a bad word. I didn't mean that at least. It just means that he has more of a tendency to live by the sword and die by the sword. Brett has made a fine living in the NFL, so his "swordsmanship" is maybe one of the best ever in this regard.
The opposite end of this spectrum is the "game manager", which is just as cliche. In reality, all competent QBs have game managing abilities & skills. I've also never quite understood exactly if this cliche is complementary or not. I've always thought it was complementary because a good game manager will excel in the 2-minute drill, as well as in other hurry-up situations, as well as managing stuff like timeouts and audibles. Maybe I took it as most similar to "student of the game". Gunslinger is closer to "playground football". It's all cliche, so it's tough to get at the truth of what exactly this all means.
As for the New York Bretts, I prefer to simply say "Jet Favre". It probably comes from my Packer roots. "Brett Favre" will always be wearing green & gold in my heart. "Jet Favre" is that other guy, that phantom, that came back and played for the Jets after "Brett Favre" retired. The term "Jet Favre" also symbolizes Favre's team leadership abilities, rather than "New York Bretts" implying that the team is a bunch of Bretts, which doesn't really fit for me.Comment -
it really is annoying that Brett Favre is getting bashed for being "overrated".
Its not his fault that the media is in love with him. yeah, he throws alot of picks. so does every other QB that throws it alot. Drew Brees is having a sick record-breaking year, yet he has as many INT's (14) as Tyler Thigpen and Chad Pennington combined.
the most overrated QB has got to be Tony Romo. followed by P. Rivers
the most overpaid? Jamarcus Russell.
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Originally posted by VictorFavre is my pick. He exemplifies the height of being overrated. He thinks that the Jets are rolling courtesy him.
Now if it had been for Favre, he would have renamed the
'New York JETS' as the 'New York BRETT-S'
Visit http://xxxxxxxxxxx.com/ and you will find surplus criticism directed towards Brett Favre.
Dude, the jets ARE rolling courtesy OF him. I realize they made key improvements in other areas, but if you honestly believe that the jets are 8-4 with Kellen Clemens under center, you are smoking crack!!!
slacker00 - you make it seem as if Favre coined the phrase "Jet Favre" or "NY Bretts"
both of these names are created by the media, and are totally lame. As is this mentality that Brett thinks he is a savior to NY football. what a joke. the media sucksComment -
a better title to this thread would have been "which team's line is more inflated because of their over-hyped QB: COLTS, JETS OR COWBOYS ???
every week these 3 teams' lines are a joke because of their "gunslingers"Comment -
Peyton had 3 TDs/0 picks in Pittsburgh this year...how many QBs have done that lately? The Colts had O-line problems early and Peyton was coming off of knee surgery w/no preseason so cut him some slack. Favre is protecting the ball better and not taking as many chances...very impressive w/a new team! Both have had their playoff chokes but I would take Manning overall! In most of the Colts playoff losses...Manning has still put up numbers and they didn't lose because of him! I think he had 3 TDs in the loss to San Diego last year. Favre seems to blow games w/key picks like last year in Lambeau! Anyone remember the stupid Hail Mary into triple coverage in Philly? He was the one that was supposed to thrive in the cold in Lambeau last year not Eli Manning! Both HOFs nevertheless!!Comment -
Career playoff numbers:
Manning 14 wins/7 losses 21 TDs/17 INTs 84.6 QB rating
Favre 12 wins/10 losses 39 TDs/28 INTs 85.2 QB rating
Pretty close numbers but I wonder how Favre's #s would look if he had to play in Foxboro in January several times like Manning! My Colts D was weak so we couldn't get Brady off the field and Ty Law just owns Peyton...he even had 2 picks for the Chiefs in our SB run! The AFC has been much better than the NFC over Peyton's career although the NFC (Dallas, SF, etc.) was much better when Brett came into the league!Comment -
They are two of the best QB's in the game today and to ever play the game period. That said, I think a lot of people are scared to bet against the Colts because Manning is on the team...Indy lines are too high week in and week out. I've done very well this year fading the Colts because of the public's overrating Peyton Manning's ability to single handedly win games so my vote goes to Manning.Comment -
Niether. Your a Dumbass worry about your picks.Originally posted by bigboydanComment -
Ha ha, that's laughable. All the haters that bash Romo have no clue. He's probably the most valuable to his team than any of these guys. I think we saw what the Cowboys are without him. He covers for the Oline by creating plays and keeps the defense playing with a lead.Originally posted by patsfan2727Comment -
Peyton is actually 8-8, Favre is 13-10.Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
Yep. Even though the Colts covered ATS on the road this year. They were only 4-4-1 at home so far. I do think a lot of public perception overvalues Peyton.Originally posted by roasthawg
I thought this thread was worth a bump, since it's doubtful we'll get a Favre/Peyton Super Bowl. It'll be interesting if one or both of these QBs choke this weekend and who'll get dragged through the mud on Monday!
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Brett Favre
too old and it will show on in the NFCCComment -
Didn't manning just win another MVP? overrated? past his prime? hogwash, he's the best there is.Comment -
Manning is not overrated at all.. I don't think that's possible... Nor is Favre...I think you used the wrong QB's here.Comment -
This post is retarted on so many levels...Comment -
Neither of the guys are "Overrated" ... They are Legends ... Yes, of course Brett is past his prime, hes 40 yrs old! But still putting up one of his greatest seasons ever. And there is no way Peyton is past his prime, thats just stupid ... He will be an elite QB in the NFL for years to come.Comment -
lets see here...Peyton Manning one of the greatest of all time.
Brett Favre...drama queen, crybaby, overrated because he's from the south, interception king, playoff choker...throws picks that cost his teams the season, painkiller junkie, always looks like he's gonna cry during interviews, i think the answer's obviousComment -
They need to change the style of the Pro BowlComment -
I don't think either of these QB's are Overrated. they're 2 great QB's you'll see in the Hall Of Fame.Comment -
I DON'T KNOW IF BRETTis playing over his ability or if hes overated, I THINK THIS YEAR HE IS PLAYING OVER HIS ABILITY,I remember last year and previous years at times when it counted he wold get frustrated and start throwing the ball over the field and usually get intercepted.Comment -
niether
niether, but brett is annoyingComment -
Both are Hall of Fame QBs. The most overrated QB in the NFL is Tony Romo - Choke city.Comment -
they are both rated at just about the right about. Big ben and Rivers are the over rated onesComment -
Both qb's are great but manning controls so many parts of the game with his knowledge of opposing defenses. You gotta say favre is more over ratedComment -
Both are great and rated the way they should be. Rivers, Romo, Palmer, Cutler the most overrated. Mcnabb and Eli are most underrated.Comment -
favre is way over rated. manning one of the smartest quarterbacks ever! he will put on a clinic in front of that pumped home crowd! sanchez take notesComment -
Wow, I don't want to be rude, but this is an extraordinarily dumb thread! Why are you wasting energy on this?? Yeah, this just in, you're talking about two of the greatest QBs of ALL TIME and they are BOTH playing awesome AS WE SPEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Instead of saying who is more overrated, you should be celebrating how frigging AWESOME both of these QBs are. And in particular, you should be celebrating how Brett Favre arguably had his BEST season at the age of 40.
I hate negative threads, especially when they're pulling negative sh-t out of thin air when it's not even there!
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Neither you can not be serious with this question rightOriginally posted by bigboydan
You are talking about arguably the best two QB's of all time.
Your question should have the names Eli Manning and Jay Cutler in it.Comment -
How about who is the most underrated Quarterback by a landslide??
This would be without a doubt Ben Roethlisberger
no one comes close when under pressure like this man he thrives on pressure which is rare as Jake Delhomme not to ever throw another interception
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Niether
But farve
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Neither is overrated. Here's the tally: Peyton 4 MVPs to Brett's 3 MVPs. Not sure how a multiple MVP winner is overrated...Comment -
Favre by far is the more overrated.Comment
