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  • blackNgoldjuice
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-25-08
    • 529

    #1
    60 minutes tonight
    Story about poker players that stole 20 mil and got away with it. Thought some of you guys might want to check it out after placing your bets.
  • Poker_Beast
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-14-06
    • 6547

    #2
    I'll be watching!
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    • pico
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-05-07
      • 27321

      #3
      watching
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      • Iwinyourmoney
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-18-07
        • 18368

        #4
        watching
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        • pokernut9999
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-25-07
          • 12757

          #5
          A lot of money in poker.
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          • blackNgoldjuice
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-25-08
            • 529

            #6
            I use 60 minutes each Sunday to give my mind a break from the madness that is betting sports
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            • The Seer
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-29-07
              • 10641

              #7
              I don't like 60 min draw attention to internet gambling
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              • The Seer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-29-07
                • 10641

                #8
                There will be a witch hunt after this shit
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                • HedgeHog
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-11-07
                  • 10128

                  #9
                  After seeing this story, why would anyone play poker or casino games online?
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                  • pokernut9999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-25-07
                    • 12757

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HedgeHog
                    After seeing this story, why would anyone play poker or casino games online?
                    I never play in a game above $200 buy-in. Never trusted the high stakes games onlne. Most if not all the cheating has been in high stakes.
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                    • daneblazer
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 09-14-08
                      • 27861

                      #11
                      nice report by 60 minutes. They got a few things wrong, but this is a really old story. If you want to play, use Full Tilt or Poker Stars
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                      • Seattle Slew
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-02-06
                        • 7373

                        #12
                        Croft never once talked about the 2006 gambling law, or how it's tougher to fund accounts. He said "all you need is a credit card." Maybe to play, but not to cash out.
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                        • InTheHole
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-28-08
                          • 15243

                          #13
                          Old news....but great story. Can't trust Canadian Indians or anyone from Costa Rica.
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                          • Bluehorseshoe
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-13-06
                            • 15018

                            #14
                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                            After seeing this story, why would anyone play poker or casino games online?
                            I don't believe the story. It's just propaganda by the US Government.

                            To prove it, I'm sending in a $100,000 right now to play Hearts online.
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                            • blackNgoldjuice
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-25-08
                              • 529

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Seer
                              There will be a witch hunt after this shit
                              I know you saw the part where they pretty much said that it is impossible to regulate internet gambling because it is a off shore business.
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                              • Poker_Beast
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-14-06
                                • 6547

                                #16
                                $20 million stolen from players by cheating, fuking unreal. Release the other names and let them get what they deserve.
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                                • bettilimbroke999
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-04-08
                                  • 13254

                                  #17
                                  They're not even being prosecuted?

                                  Shows ya how well regulated the internet gambling world is, steal 20 million and all they ask is to tell how you did it and to apologize
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                                  • wtf
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-22-08
                                    • 12983

                                    #18
                                    they also paid the money back, better than the thieves on wallstreet do

                                    and they are supposedly regulated
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                                    • MoneySportsGuy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-09-07
                                      • 4891

                                      #19
                                      what happend in the story or can you see it on another site? I missed the episode.
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                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-04-08
                                        • 13254

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wtf
                                        they also paid the money back, better than the thieves on wallstreet do

                                        and they are supposedly regulated
                                        Did Hamilton and them have to pay all the money back? If so I guess it's all good I guess, not sure how you can go back 4 years and find all the people they stole from but who knows. I wasn't even sure AP paid the people back, guess some broke high roller is gonna log onto his account after 4 years and find 50k he didn't know got robbed from him
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                                        • reno cool
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-02-08
                                          • 3567

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Seer
                                          I don't like 60 min draw attention to internet gambling
                                          yes.

                                          It's laughable that rich poker players the biggest scum are the ones trying to make an exemption for their game.
                                          bird bird da bird's da word
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                                          • wtf
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-22-08
                                            • 12983

                                            #22
                                            according to the story in the washington post yes all moneys were returned. i imagine fairly easy to find most players ripped off.
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                                            • reno cool
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-02-08
                                              • 3567

                                              #23
                                              The important point that one person made is:

                                              These cheats were real amateurs, and greedy. A fairly mediocre cheat could milk such an advantage forever, and probably is.
                                              bird bird da bird's da word
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                                              • daneblazer
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-14-08
                                                • 27861

                                                #24
                                                the real 'cheating' that you should be worried about is when players log on to the same game and help or tell each other which hands they have. There isn't much you can do about that either.
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                                                • Tchocky
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-14-06
                                                  • 2371

                                                  #25
                                                  Just saw the story. I always thought online poker was for tools. You never know who you're playing. Poker should be played at a table where you can see all the players. If any hacker or rogue employee can see your cards, then you're screwed.
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                                                  • gm2022
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-28-08
                                                    • 4128

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                    Did Hamilton and them have to pay all the money back? If so I guess it's all good I guess, not sure how you can go back 4 years and find all the people they stole from but who knows. I wasn't even sure AP paid the people back, guess some broke high roller is gonna log onto his account after 4 years and find 50k he didn't know got robbed from him
                                                    He didnt pay back a dime from what we know. The new ownership of UB and AP paid ot of pocket ll the debts to their players! Kinda suxs though that they wont release names even if the player made a deal with the site ahead of time!
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                                                    • bettilimbroke999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-04-08
                                                      • 13254

                                                      #27
                                                      All those sites are prolly hackable by a skilled hacker, no doubt we've all played guys who could see our cards, it's sick but prolly true
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                                                      • MoneySportsGuy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-09-07
                                                        • 4891

                                                        #28
                                                        yeah definitely has to be stuff out their where you could hack and see somebody elses cards
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                                                        • JoshW
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 3431

                                                          #29
                                                          I think it speaks to how smart some of these good poker players are, that they figured it all out and forced these poker sites to pay out.

                                                          I don't if anyone made the connection, but the guy that the Native American's hired to investigate the case was the same guy who help setup gambling at Foxwoods in Connecticut. Guy could write a hell of a book about his life in gambling. Goes from cleaning up AC to essentially creating gambling in Conneticut, working in Vegas, and now this.
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                                                          • fiveteamer
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-14-08
                                                            • 10805

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by reno cool
                                                            The important point that one person made is:

                                                            These cheats were real amateurs, and greedy. A fairly mediocre cheat could milk such an advantage forever, and probably is.
                                                            Sounds like the Fix 6 idiots.
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                                                            • mathdotcom
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-24-08
                                                              • 11689

                                                              #31
                                                              Wow this thread really shows how little most of sbr knows about how offshore works.
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                                                              • bettilimbroke999
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-04-08
                                                                • 13254

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                                                Wow this thread really shows how little most of sbr knows about how offshore works.
                                                                Meaning?
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                                                                • gm2022
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-28-08
                                                                  • 4128

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by reno cool
                                                                  The important point that one person made is:

                                                                  These cheats were real amateurs, and greedy. A fairly mediocre cheat could milk such an advantage forever, and probably is.
                                                                  I wouldnt say they were Amateurs, but I would say there were dumb fks. If anyone saw the final hand between Crazy Marco and Potrigger you would know exactly what I mean! These guys were just to greedy and were trying to take ever penny they could and refused to let them selfs lose. Im sorry but Amateurs is the wrong word, Dumb Fks is more like it. If they werent dumb fks they prob still be getting away with it do this day with no detection!
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                                                                  • bettilimbroke999
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-04-08
                                                                    • 13254

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I can't believe I went all in for 10k on a stone cold bluff and potrigger called me with jack high, what a fukin genius
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                                                                    • FadeThePublic
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 05-08-08
                                                                      • 653

                                                                      #35
                                                                      if u guys had the software to cheat and make millions, you would to. all online poker is rigged. even pokerstars and full tilt. I've play live poker in casinos and online and the worst beats Ive ever had were online.
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