Beyond the Bets article Buries SBR

[Sam Odom]

DUDLEYDAWSON was getting weekly freeplays right up until the end from betislands to shill for them on sbr.

Nothing will ever beat Richie's video smoking crack and promoting creditwagering.com

[shari91]

LOL this is typical. Covers has been for sale since about 2001. SBR is suppoedly some watch dog site with player interests at heart.

So trying to divert attention from SBR to Covers is the weakest excuse ever.

It wasnt a Covers poster who is freinds with guys at Covers who started the book.

I didnt see them sponsoring a Covers Bash.

I didnt see Covers rate them

Covers just piggy backed off it because thats what they do. But they also probably had an inkling there that SBR was partially responsible for the quick rise of Bet Islands and just decided to try and get theirs too.

Its OK people sell their souls every day, people at SBR arent the first they wont be the last.

Are you sure John was buddy buddy with SSLP? John's had dinner and drinks with various posters that I've seen posted on here. Are they all dodgy too? When did Covers have a Bash for anyone to sponsor? When did they start rating sportsbooks? I haven't visited there since the SJP scandal but it sounds like a lot of changes have happened over there. Good night wantitall4moi.

[Darkside Magick]

Again how is it their fault...no one put a gun to anyone head and said play at betislands....it certain stuff you got to know.

[Mikeyanks23]

My man, do you hear what you are actually saying?

You really want me to believe that SBR colluded with a FUKKIN POSTER on the forum to scam people out of $1.5 million and that they planned this as you say, "from the jump"?

Let me ask you......do you have any actual evidence to back up your conspiracy theory? Something tells me I'll be waiting for a loooooong time for it.

really?

Not saying i agree with wanti.

But how can you talk shit to anyone about conspiracy theories?

LMAO have you seen the shit you posted?

ReallY? Really? Really? Aliens government coverups etc just to name a few.

[tblues2005]

Why are you apologising? You think I wouldn't be going through the roof if I had lost money? Only reason why I didn't is because back during the half point/crazy freeplays heyday when I tried to sign up they said no non US allowed. Even having no money in there I'm still f'n pissed off. Bloody BetEd got a bailout offer and turned it down because they didn't want to hand over their client info, which is obv the only reason a book will assume another's debt, and yet no one wants to bailout BI's customers. I understand why from a business sense but it's just horribly unfair to the guys with cash there. So yeah, definitely no hard feelings. You know there never will be.

Shari you are one of the only mods that will talk about this and it is terribly unfair to the members not to say anything here when I seen the banners all over the place here for them. I am glad I didn't have a dime there but I sure feel for the ones that do. Some had big amounts there and that is a huge problem. I am shocked though that someone hasn't stepped forward and say come here and we will take your business by either a buyout or a merger of some sort. I would be mad if I had funds there and I sure think that SBR needs to have a good explanation of what happened here and be as good as possible to the members here that got screwed.

[SplitAces]

I disagree Philly. Let me start by saying I did not lose $1. I cleared out 4 weeks ago when I smelled the stink; read my earlier posts and you will see that I had concerns in September.
But the complete confidence game that was played by SBR and Jon/BI is what angers me. Research the evolution of this relationship,although SBR said there was none we find posts to the contrary, the quick rise of BI within SBR and only SBR.
The out right lies from Jon about his relationship with EZ and or 7red. We know SBR knew this to be completely false. How about this..
Since, SBR has had the opportunity to test the sportsbook, collect user feedback, and speak with majority owners. The veteran ownership group is respected within the industry.
Where is this info; SBR please explain your findings now; your so called majority owners. Set it straight.

So know I am not sour about losing money, I did not. I do feel bad for others who did. I understand in gambling off shore there are risks. In fact this is why I came to SBR because they supposedly were watchdogs and limited this risk.
I am sour about the fact SBR played us the whole way. If you do not see this than you are a perfect member for SBR.

[milwaukee mike]

Again how is it their fault...no one put a gun to anyone head and said play at betislands....it certain stuff you got to know.

but jon "could've" put a gun to someone's head. because he carried one in his fanny pack

[PhillyFlyers]

Philly. Read the thread "bye guys" by sslp, in the saloon. You make your own conclusions.

OK Trace. I did what you said. I went to Saloon and read the "bye guys" thread.

I see nothing, other than conspiracy theories, that can implicate SBR in any way for what happened at BI.

So John had a few beers with SSLP. What the fukk does that prove? John has met Opie........OPIE YOU FUKK....YOU MUST BE IN ON IT TOO!..........SHARI.....you know Opie.......YOU BITCH!.........YOU MUST BE IN ON IT TOO!

See where this fukkin bullshit is going? It's bullshit.

SBR had nothing to do with what happened at BI. The only thing SBR can be blamed for, is not spotting that BI was going to fail and warn their players about it in time as far as I can tell. Even still, SBR can't be expected to monitor every fukkin shady gambling operation that comes along can it?

[1brokegirl]

tis why i stay with trusted long running books never join any new book with all that glam of bonuses and other crap.
never even heard of BI until i joined here and just SMH after raeding about the con.

[milwaukee mike]

1brokegirl are you really a girl? and are you really broke?

where else have i seen that picture?

[shari91]

Shari you are one of the only mods that will talk about this and it is terribly unfair to the members not to say anything here when I seen the banners all over the place here for them. I am glad I didn't have a dime there but I sure feel for the ones that do. Some had big amounts there and that is a huge problem. I am shocked though that someone hasn't stepped forward and say come here and we will take your business by either a buyout or a merger of some sort. I would be mad if I had funds there and I sure think that SBR needs to have a good explanation of what happened here and be as good as possible to the members here that got screwed.

Ideally a bailout would happen but realistically why would a book want BI's sheet? They'd be taking over a debt largely owed to players that you most likely already booted or severely limited from your own book ages ago. Others have balances composed of fps and bonuses so that's like junk money too. I just don't think it's an attractive option for any book that has the ability to do it and that's why books have said no. Then again, it's Xmas and I'm someone who still believes in miracles so I'm going to hold out hope. I even bought a powerball ticket today so that if I won I was going to pay everyone out. Struck out this time but there's another big draw on Saturday so I'll try again. You never know right? Ok I really have to log off now... Philly said this end of world stuff is set for sunrise. If it's sunrise my time, I only have a few hours left. xo

[Ra77er]

Nice now Lindsay Lohan is posting here with more knowledge of books then SBR.

[ttrace35]

OK Trace. I did what you said. I went to Saloon and read the "bye guys" thread.

I see nothing, other than conspiracy theories, that can implicate SBR in any way for what happened at BI.

So John had a few beers with SSLP. What the fukk does that prove? John has met Opie........OPIE YOU FUKK....YOU MUST BE IN ON IT TOO!..........SHARI.....you know Opie.......YOU BITCH!.........YOU MUST BE IN ON IT TOO!

See where this fukkin bullshit is going? It's bullshit.

SBR had nothing to do with what happened at BI. The only thing SBR can be blamed for, is not spotting that BI was going to fail and warn their players about it in time as far as I can tell. Even still, SBR can't be expected to monitor every fukkin shady gambling operation that comes along can it?

You are being very naive. Dont ever come to ny son. You will get conned out of the shirt on your back. Some people are so fukkin gullable

[Trident]

Again how is it their fault...no one put a gun to anyone head and said play at betislands....it certain stuff you got to know.

They knew they were in fianancial trouble for weeks but chose not to report it while posters continued to send money to them, you think this would have gone unreported if the Book wasn't a advertiser and a Book that they reccomended.

[wantitall4moi]

Are you sure John was buddy buddy with SSLP? John's had dinner and drinks with various posters that I've seen posted on here. Are they all dodgy too? When did Covers have a Bash for anyone to sponsor? When did they start rating sportsbooks? I haven't visited there since the SJP scandal but it sounds like a lot of changes have happened over there. Good night wantitall4moi.

Covers isnt trying to be the next Shrink like Walker is. So they dont have to do any of those things. Thyere prefectly happy scamming their people with touts and 'covers experts' packages.

You are missing the point, either on purpose or becaue you really are thatgullible. I find it hard to believe it is the latter.

Regardless of the history, which is pretty cut and dry.

EVERYONE in the known universe knew that dump was going under about 6 weeks ago. yet SBR, the supposed watch dog had nothing to say. Citing what they had been told...processor issues.

Then when it cant be denied anymore John come out with a 'we were lied to too" bullshit excuse, and the expected "we never endorsed them as an A book, we ranked them'only' at a B.

The electronic trail behind this all is very obvious to people with a brain. It has been pulled up and shown to refresh people's memories, and I am sure more will come to light. With the advantage of hind sight it is very easy to connect the dots here.

I know you get paid by them and all that, but dont insult people's intelligence by even commenting on it. Do what all the other people who have been paid, maybe stop posting about it. Because everything you type, if it isnt deleted will surely be quoted and laughed at as time passes by and it becomes obvious what is happening.

This is like Pedd State trying to deny they knew Sandusky raped little boys.

[Darkside Magick]

You are being very naive. Dont ever come to ny son. You will get conned out of the shirt on your back. Some people are so fukkin gullable

How is people gullable trace....not to stomp on your ego son but you played there while others knew from the beginning that the hustle didn't smell right

[Vegas39]

really?

Not saying i agree with wanti.

But how can you talk shit to anyone about conspiracy theories?

LMAO have you seen the shit you posted?

ReallY? Really? Really? Aliens government coverups etc just to name a few.

[PhillyFlyers]

You are being very naive. Dont ever come to ny son. You will get conned out of the shirt on your back. Some people are so fukkin gullable

I'm in NY a lot Trace. If you think the scams they run up there are bad, you should see the shit they pull in Philly.

[wantitall4moi]

You are being very naive. Dont ever come to ny son. You will get conned out of the shirt on your back. Some people are so fukkin gullable

20 years ago I would own all these fools. luckily for them I was rehabilitated.

[SplitAces]

OK Trace. I did what you said. I went to Saloon and read the "bye guys" thread.

I see nothing, other than conspiracy theories, that can implicate SBR in any way for what happened at BI.

So John had a few beers with SSLP. What the fukk does that prove? John has met Opie........OPIE YOU FUKK....YOU MUST BE IN ON IT TOO!..........SHARI.....you know Opie.......YOU BITCH!.........YOU MUST BE IN ON IT TOO!

See where this fukkin bullshit is going? It's bullshit.

SBR had nothing to do with what happened at BI. The only thing SBR can be blamed for, is not spotting that BI was going to fail and warn their players about it in time as far as I can tell. Even still, SBR can't be expected to monitor every fukkin shady gambling operation that comes along can it?

Philly not every fukkiin shady gambling operation that comes along can it? LOL..How about their #1 referral client. We are not talking about the 58 th book on their list. This is the one they most recommended. I personally spoke with SBR and they said BI or Heritage. i was not the only one. So I know first hand they were pushing them. If you are going to stick up for SBR please use valid points.
The only thing SBR can be blamed for, is not spotting that BI was going to fail and warn their players about it in time as far as I can tell.
How about they come clean now and release their research of their findings SBR has had the opportunity to test the sportsbook, collect user feedback, and speak with majority owners. The veteran ownership group is respected within the industry.
This might help limit their involvement with this ponzi scheme.
Ponzi schemes are never created with the idea to fall flat and wipe out everyone. They believe they can keep it going and make it work. I do not think SBR knew it would end this way with BI; but that does not limit their exposure.

[Sam Odom]

But how can you talk shit to anyone about conspiracy theories?

Aliens government coverups etc just to name a few.

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[PhillyFlyers]

really?

Not saying i agree with wanti.

But how can you talk shit to anyone about conspiracy theories?

LMAO have you seen the shit you posted?

ReallY? Really? Really? Aliens government coverups etc just to name a few.

Mike

I don't know what you're talking about. I posted maybe 1 or 2 ufo vids that looked freaky to me. I posted about the Mayans, which isn't a conspiracy at all. I don't think I've ever once posted about a government coverup. I did post a Jesse Ventura interview in which he talks about one but that doesn't prove anything.

[shari91]

This is like Pedd State trying to deny they knew Sandusky raped little boys.

I scanned your latest opus after responding to one final PM and I wish I never had. I'd always heard you were a bit messed up but just figured people were exaggerating but you are pretty low bringing the abuse of innocent boys into a thread like this at all. This will be the last time I acknowledge you unless it's about SBR policy in the future and I'm forced to. GL with nothing.

[tblues2005]

Ideally a bailout would happen but realistically why would a book want BI's sheet? They'd be taking over a debt largely owed to players that you most likely already booted or severely limited from your own book ages ago. Others have balances composed of fps and bonuses so that's like junk money too. I just don't think it's an attractive option for any book that has the ability to do it and that's why books have said no. Then again, it's Xmas and I'm someone who still believes in miracles so I'm going to hold out hope. I even bought a powerball ticket today so that if I won I was going to pay everyone out. Struck out this time but there's another big draw on Saturday so I'll try again. You never know right? Ok I really have to log off now... Philly said this end of world stuff is set for sunrise. If it's sunrise my time, I only have a few hours left. xo

I am putting this as unlikely too as a buyout because of what you said. I know it is getting late where you are at so get some rest there Shari. I am still shocked that John, Lou, or anyone else will not even touch this subject.

[5mike5]

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[tto827]

Glad to see more people have come to their senses and aren't constantly jumping on SBR and saying they were complicit in this all along. They definitely could have been, but their is not yet evidence warranting a final decision be made either way.

[Sam Odom]

If Sammy owned a "C" book in CR he would offer a bailout...

Rules:

Deposit 50% new cash of your BI balance

Receive 100% of BI balance

6x rollover on total (new cash + BI balance)

[Trident]

If Sammy owned a "C" book in CR he would offer a bailout...

Rules:

Deposit 50% new cash of your BI balance

Receive 100% of BI balance

6x rollover on total (new cash + BI balance)

You would be out of business before MLB started.

[tto827]

After a B goes down, who wants to throw money into a C book Sammy? That's the only issue.

[Darkside Magick]

If Sammy owned a "C" book in CR he would offer a bailout...

Rules:


Deposit 50% new cash of your BI balance

Receive 100% of BI balance

6x rollover on total (new cash + BI balance)

Lmaooooooooooooooooo

[Vegas39]

I am putting this as unlikely too as a buyout because of what you said. I know it is getting late where you are at so get some rest there Shari. I am still shocked that John, Lou, or anyone else will not even touch this subject.

In sportsbook sub forum Justin & Bill had a few responses yesterday

[Sam Odom]

You would be out of business before MLB started.

No way...

[crustyme]

as an unbiased observer who had no funds at bi.... i wholeheartedly agree with the article.

how did sbr not know when red flags were popping up everywhere? how did sbr not know what with their resources, connections and insiders when other watchdog sites were sounding the alarm about bi a month prior?

the fact is, sbr did know. they chose to ignore all the warning signs due to their close personal relationship with sslp/jon.

now im not saying they were in cahoots, but they did certainly afford him numerous benefit of the doubts that they would never have done for any other book.

just a day before sslp took off with players funds, bill was still here defending them. he defended them to the bitter end. this action or inaction cost players additional $100,000s because bi was still accepting deposits til just a few days ago.

the fact is sbr put their personal friendship with sslp ahead of the welfare of the bettors they swore to protect.

heads need to roll for this if sbr hopes to rebuild their credibility and reputation.... but i doubt anything will happen. will just get swept under the rug as always.... business as usual.

[Sam Odom]

After a B goes down, who wants to throw money into a C book Sammy?

Why not ?

a 'chance' of recouping a stiffed balance is better than no chance

[Darkside Magick]

Why not ?

a 'chance' of recouping a stiffed balance is better than no chance

What is your lines?